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North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 6:30:37 AM

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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/north-korea-could-collapse-within-a-year-says-former-pyongyang-official/ar-AAtEHQi?li=AAacUQk&ocid=spartanntp

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“Never before has the country faced such tough sanctions. I don’t know if North Korea will survive a year with these sanctions. People will die,” he said.
Mr Ri believes North Korea’s increasing provocations and Kim Jong-un’s rhetoric are an attempt to force the US into a diplomatic dialogue which does not involve South Korea.
He added: “Right now the leadership of North Korea have deployed missiles aimed at the US and are doing these provocations, but they desperately want relations with the US.”

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 6:39:38 AM

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I feel like since people are already dying and starving there.

I seriously want to see North Korea dictatorship taken out and see the unification of North and South.

I want North Koreans to have the freedom to interact with the rest of the world.

But as with any big change. Often involve big casualties first.

Historically, this is always the case.

Germany and Japan didn't become the more peaceful country they are today without ALOT of casualties.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 6:42:43 AM

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And what are the odds that Kimmy J, realizing he has nothing to lose, decides to nuke somebody on the way out?
He isn't exactly Gorbachev.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 6:47:22 AM

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And what are the odds that Kimmy J, realizing he has nothing to lose, decides to nuke somebody on the way out?
He isn't exactly Gorbachev.

This is what I am talking about.
End of the day.

There will be Casualties.

No evil country was able to turn peaceful, without them causing hurt to other countries first, and then having other countries fight back and put them in their place and force them to change.

And I thought US was confident in having the technology to deflect those missiles from North Korea? 97% effective? Just like condoms!

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 6:48:07 AM

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I feel like since people are already dying and starving there.

I seriously want to see North Korea dictatorship taken out and see the unification of North and South.

I want North Koreans to have the freedom to interact with the rest of the world.

But as with any big change. Often involve big casualties first.

Historically, this is always the case.

Germany and Japan didn't become the more peaceful country they are today without ALOT of casualties.

If those people had capitalism they could be enjoying life to the fullest, just like the people in South Korea are

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 6:50:28 AM

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Well for a start to live effectively in a capitalist world.

People need to believe that they are responsible for their own life and don't feel like the government has any responsibility to take care of them financially.

It has to be a pure meritocracy society. And if they fail to have wealth or remain poor and struggling, they would usually look at themselves first rather than blaming the government for making conditions bad for them to succeed.

The moment people look to government to take care of their financial health. It's over. Socialism is needed.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 6:55:15 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:12:06 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:14:27 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

Getting a job is the exact opposite, idiot.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:28:05 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

Did Bozzie just make an argument for taxes?

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:28:05 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

Getting a job is the exact opposite, idiot.

Yeah, capitalism didn't lead us to this point.
It wasn't the free market that made the corporations choose cheap labor over expensive labor, it was the government who forced them to make all of that money.

Idiot.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:30:13 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

Did Bozzie just make an argument for taxes?

No, he is just too dumb to understand what he thinks he supports.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:51:08 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

No, not like that at all Google boy.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:54:34 AM

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China wants the buffer between herself and the American allies surrounding her.

She will keep North Korea going.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 7:59:14 AM

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

No, not like that at all Google boy.

LOL.. yes Nancy, keep insisting you know things... you don't even have to use your vast wealth of life experience to 'prove' it.
Or for that matter, your aging, dementia-ridden mind.

I'll stick to actually looking things up and making sure they're true.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 8:01:14 AM

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China wants the buffer between herself and the American allies surrounding her.

She will keep North Korea going.

I think you're overestimating just how valuable NK is to China.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 8:28:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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When the people collectively realize they can vote to give themselves a nation's treasury and decide they no longer want to contribute because of that, it's over. At some point a strongman is deemed necessary to make the resulting failed system work

Sort of like how the phony strongman Trump promised to give all the white people their jobs back?

No, not like that at all Google boy.

LOL.. yes Nancy, keep insisting you know things... you don't even have to use your vast wealth of life experience to 'prove' it.
Or for that matter, your aging, dementia-ridden mind.

I'll stick to actually looking things up and making sure they're true.

Oh Google boy, I thought you blocked me. Couldn't do it and lied about it didn't you. It shows you just can't stand not seeing what I say. LMAO at your little digs though Google boy. You see, your problem is you think what you say affects other people the same as what they say affects you. Run to mumsey Google boy. She'll kiss it better for you.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 9:52:53 AM

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Oh Google boy, I thought you blocked me. Couldn't do it and lied about it didn't you. It shows you just can't stand not seeing what I say. LMAO at your little digs though Google boy. You see, your problem is you think what you say affects other people the same as what they say affects you. Run to mumsey Google boy. She'll kiss it better for you.

I blocked you for a while, then today I unblocked you.
It was a mistake.

It's amazing how worked up you get, spewing these creepy old man insults and trying to prove to yourself that I am threatened in any way by you.
In order for that to happen, there would have to be actual discussions taking place instead of this really embarrassingly awful insult exchange.

If you seriously enjoy this antagonism as much as you seem to, then at your age, it must be really difficult to find reasons to keep going.

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 10:13:57 AM

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Oh Google boy, I thought you blocked me. Couldn't do it and lied about it didn't you. It shows you just can't stand not seeing what I say. LMAO at your little digs though Google boy. You see, your problem is you think what you say affects other people the same as what they say affects you. Run to mumsey Google boy. She'll kiss it better for you.

I blocked you for a while, then today I unblocked you.
It was a mistake.

It's amazing how worked up you get, spewing these creepy old man insults and trying to prove to yourself that I am threatened in any way by you.
In order for that to happen, there would have to be actual discussions taking place instead of this really embarrassingly awful insult exchange.

If you seriously enjoy this antagonism as much as you seem to, then at your age, it must be really difficult to find reasons to keep going.

Oh Google boy, does that mean you're going to take positive steps to prevent yourself turning sixty?

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RE: North Korea could collapse within a year - 10/18/2017 10:16:58 AM

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Oh Google boy, I thought you blocked me. Couldn't do it and lied about it didn't you. It shows you just can't stand not seeing what I say. LMAO at your little digs though Google boy. You see, your problem is you think what you say affects other people the same as what they say affects you. Run to mumsey Google boy. She'll kiss it better for you.

I blocked you for a while, then today I unblocked you.
It was a mistake.

It's amazing how worked up you get, spewing these creepy old man insults and trying to prove to yourself that I am threatened in any way by you.
In order for that to happen, there would have to be actual discussions taking place instead of this really embarrassingly awful insult exchange.

If you seriously enjoy this antagonism as much as you seem to, then at your age, it must be really difficult to find reasons to keep going.

Oh Google boy, does that mean you're going to take positive steps to prevent yourself turning sixty?

No, it means I desperately want to avoid being like you when I turn 60.

Fucking hell, this isn't even a partisan thread and now it's turned to shit because the RWNJs are only capable of discussing a handful of topics.

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