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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/11/2017 7:31:30 PM   
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I don't think anyone should feel guilty about not believing every abuse story. I suspect that like most anything involving people, most are telling the truth, and a few are lying. And I'm with you; I am not readily believing the story about Takei. I think there is more to it than has been told.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 4:23:42 AM   
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I am waiting for similar stories to come out, regarding some of our favorite bands/musicians/and musical legends to come out next.

You missed that thing about Michael Jackson being acquited of pedophillia accusations, the anecdote about Led Zeppellin, a groupie and a mud shark, and everything that Pamela des Barres has ever published, then?


I am actually going to take some time to actually respond to this.
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I don't think I stated that there had NEVER been scandals, if I did please show me.

There has never been this many allegations or scandals regarding celebrities, and those in positions of power/or influence, in which people came forward around the same time, that I am aware of.

I am talking about MORE recent scandals coming forward, about people/celebs, that most of us are UNAWARE of.


Marini, communications are 1,000 times more advanced now than even in the 1970s.

Do you honestly think that all this 'perversion' etc. went on the uptick just now? Or just the better ability to report it? But none of this went on 80 or 120 or 2,000 years ago?

When did most of the incidents catching favor with the public here recently actually transpire?

Think about it.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 4:58:24 AM   
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unfortunately though im pretty sure some of the comrades would ruin it.


Well now! thanks for your own exemplary demonstration of thoughtful and condign analysis and input as to consideration of respect to all sides, there.

You just slam dunked that one, didn't you?


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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 5:19:21 AM   
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assuming your post was sarcastic...

the forum is full of people who hate god, Christianity, and Christians as well as "the right."

if you honestly believe a conversation about the nature of forgiveness from a Christian perspective can be achieved without snark, personal insults, derailing and their being their usual smug pompous asses---an "analysis" of which can be gotten by looking at practically every single thread on here---then start the thread and see how far it goes. id be happy to be wrong.

otherwise, yeah, really, slam dunk.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 9:50:05 AM   
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I don't think anyone should feel guilty about not believing every abuse story. I suspect that like most anything involving people, most are telling the truth, and a few are lying. And I'm with you; I am not readily believing the story about Takei. I think there is more to it than has been told.


Great point, at this point, in many of these "cases", we have no idea, what the real story IS.

People embellish and make things up daily.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 9:56:44 AM   
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I recently engaged in a work that involved a lot of memories of many people from ~30 yrs ago. people also remember things wrongly.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 10:07:41 AM   
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I recently engaged in a work that involved a lot of memories of many people from ~30 yrs ago. people also remember things wrongly.


Thank you, I am not even going to start about toxic liars in the work place.

People's careers, reputations, and lives have been ruined by LIES and LIARS.
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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 10:32:58 AM   
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False memories were very popular in the 90s, I have a box of literature back from then, psych, legal and medical.
A lot of people had their children taken from them, a lot of vindictive people made a lot of claims because of what they were "told" they remembered. A lot of people had their lives ruined by psycho babble.
One example, real case, went to court
35 yr old woman goes to the psych, who sends her for evaluation with a childhood psych.
Three weeks later, she makes an accusation, that she remembered her father molesting her as a six month old, except her father was serving away in a submarine from two months after her birth.
Her mother was going thru a nasty custody battle, and said it was true.
The father committed suicide because of it. Under two years later, she was recanting saying she was fed her "molestation"

However...If you have been molested, raped, assaulted, being accused of lying is a double victimisation.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 11:48:17 AM   
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False memories were very popular in the 90s, I have a box of literature back from then, psych, legal and medical.
A lot of people had their children taken from them, a lot of vindictive people made a lot of claims because of what they were "told" they remembered. A lot of people had their lives ruined by psycho babble.
One example, real case, went to court
35 yr old woman goes to the psych, who sends her for evaluation with a childhood psych.
Three weeks later, she makes an accusation, that she remembered her father molesting her as a six month old, except her father was serving away in a submarine from two months after her birth.
Her mother was going thru a nasty custody battle, and said it was true.
The father committed suicide because of it. Under two years later, she was recanting saying she was fed her "molestation"

However...If you have been molested, raped, assaulted, being accused of lying is a double victimisation.

It was going for a while before the '90s, though. I think the ur-text for the whole recovered memories thing was Michelle Remembers which was published in the late '70s, and shortly afterwards so completely debunked that it was quickly disowned by the religious right as a massive embarrassment.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 12:14:32 PM   
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Oh I have no doubt, but was too young to have been knowledgeable about it... Im talking about the BFMSF which was the UK version of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation in the US in 92-93.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/12/2017 1:38:53 PM   
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Oh I have no doubt, but was too young to have been knowledgeable about it... Im talking about the BFMSF which was the UK version of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation in the US in 92-93.

Got you. I thought psychiatrists were getting wary of claiming recovered memories by the '90s after idiots spent the whole of the '80s "recovering" memories of Satanic child abuse and alien abductions.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 2:37:37 AM   
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assuming your post was sarcastic...


It most definitely was sarcastic.

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the forum is full of people who hate god, Christianity, and Christians as well as "the right."


People whose views are different than yours are not necessarily anti-christian, however much you wish it to be so, or artificially make it that way to suit your own purpose.

You are just a simpleton, and there is no defense for your trying to promote it.

Your incessant "Oh no Comrades!" shtick displays you as the fucking idiot you are, so now you are complaining if somebody points out the obvious?

You are incapable of learning, so no one in right mind should expect that from you.

All that's being asked is that you just STFU, since adult discussion is far beyond your adolescent mind.



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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 2:51:28 AM   
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assuming your post was sarcastic...

the forum is full of people who hate god, Christianity, and Christians as well as "the right."

They don't hate God, Christianity and Christians.

They only hate those people who CLAIM to be the above and use that claim as an excuse to lie, cheat, steal, rape or any number of other crimes against humanity.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 2:53:57 AM   
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The Protestant way.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 3:19:26 AM   
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assuming your post was sarcastic...

the forum is full of people who hate god, Christianity, and Christians as well as "the right."

They don't hate God, Christianity and Christians.

They only hate those people who CLAIM to be the above and use that claim as an excuse to lie, cheat, steal, rape or any number of other crimes against humanity.

This a million times



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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 10:01:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

assuming your post was sarcastic...


It most definitely was sarcastic.

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the forum is full of people who hate god, Christianity, and Christians as well as "the right."


People whose views are different than yours are not necessarily anti-christian, however much you wish it to be so, or artificially make it that way to suit your own purpose.



He never said they were. Perhaps if you stopped listening to the voices in your head and actually read what was written you wouldn't come off as such a condescending little asshole. But I am not going to hold my breath.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 11:32:18 AM   
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thb---the irony of his making up something I didn't say in order to criticize me by saying I "artificially make it that way to suit my own purpose" is absolutely precious!

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 7:15:27 PM   
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assuming your post was sarcastic...


It most definitely was sarcastic.
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the forum is full of people who hate god, Christianity, and Christians as well as "the right."


People whose views are different than yours are not necessarily anti-christian, however much you wish it to be so, or artificially make it that way to suit your own purpose.


He never said they were.


Oh, so sorry.

So then, his views are in congruence with people on this forum, there in abundance by his calculation, "who hate god [sic], Christianity, and Christians as well as "the right" "?

"Oh no! commrades!"

I guess I missed that.


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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 7:35:45 PM   
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No, wait . . .

His comment about godless heathens was just his way of saying that the forum is full of people he agrees with.

Got it.

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RE: Another Piece of Shit - 11/13/2017 7:44:57 PM   
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thb---the irony of his making up something


Give us an example making up something, please. Oh, here we are . . .

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the forum is full of people who hate god, Christianity, and Christians


Like that, you mean?




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