Greta75 -> RE: An American dialogue (12/3/2017 10:57:07 PM)
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ORIGINAL: JVoV Now think about this for a moment: if HIV/AIDS were first discovered in heterosexual people in the US, how different would our government's immediate reaction have been? How soon would the CDC have been brought in? Impossible to know, but certainly a prime example of how dangerous 'otherism' can be. Actually the real question why is aids more easily spread through anal sex than normal sex? And why are gay men always having unprotected sex. The fact that is was first found in gays, it is also like, it's a sign! If it was first found in heterosexual, sex education on protection will be alot stronger than today. Just like when any infectious disease happen. Like Sars, like Zika, wide spread of full educational information about how to prevent it non-stop. But because it begin in gay people, they didn't aggressively educate the whole population about it. quote:
And yes, in some States, you can be legally terminated from your job for being gay. In some States, you can be denied service at some businesses if you're gay too. I'm sure you remember the cake thing. The cake thing, I felt was legitimate. If gay people bought off the shelves cake from that bakery, he would have sold it to them. The baker just does not want to design a cake that celebrates gay marriage which his religion is against. That to me is not discrimination. It's like telling a Muslim to sell me pork. Or make me a pork pie. I mean we got halal pie shops, and if I went in and ask the Muslim to custom-make me a pork pie for my birthday, they would refuse me 100% and I would understand. As it's against their religion. But for it to be legitimate to refuse to sell things to gay people, I mean, normal things like you just browse the shop and buy whatever is on display there? That is unacceptable and I will be surprise if that is legal over there, because it's not legal over here, even though sodomy is against the law. But custom-made things. A Buddhist can refuse to bake a Jesus Cake. That's okay. As the Jesus cake is customised design. No crime commited. As it's against their religion. As for bestiality and marriage to my cat. I love my cat to death and I love sleeping with them and hugging them and kissing them. That's the extent of my "physical interaction with them". I also only have female cats. So my cats already love me and cuddle up with me, and lick me. My cats even love to lick my breasts, and my lips and my cheeks, I didn't train them to do that. I am always naked in my home, so when I sleep, they climb on me and lick me. It's genuine mutual love for each other. I don't harm them. They don't harm me. I mean there are ALOT of "Others" harmless type of love that are banned from marriage. That's what I am saying. So when only gay and lesbian couples get legalise, to me it's seen as special treatment. And not a win for marriage equality. There is no logic to this special treatment except this special group fought the loudest for their special rights and in the end, this is life. If you really want something, you gotta fight for it. They got it. But is it fair? Is there truly equality? No. Because alot of out of normal heterosexual relationships are banned from marriage. Especially incest. Which I feel like animals themselves, cats and dogs, hamsters, rabbits, lots of incest happen if you leave them all un-neutered and naturally together. It's just made abnormal by humans. But seldom do you see a gay cat or dog or hamster. When it comes to incest, not all couples are heterosexual too. So not every couple can have kids naturally. And gay and lesbian incest couples can definitely have kids, without incest defect, since they need a sperm or egg donor anyway. I am always like, treat ALL equally with a fair logic encompassing the "whys". Like being terminated at a job for being gay. I would fiercely fight against that bullshit. Being gay does not hinder their ability to do a fantastic job. If any shops or restaurant put out a poster which says, "No gays allowed in here", I would also fiercely object to that! As gay people can be good customers too. But refusing to customise a cake to celebrate a gay marriage which is against your religion. That is fair. If we want to respect a person's religion, we shouldn't force them to bake customise cakes to celebrate something against their religion. It's like forcing a jew to bake a hitler cake. Forcing a Muslim to bake a pork pie. It's just not right. That specific cake case really does not sit right with me. I do not think it's fair to the baker to condemn him for his religious beliefs.
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