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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/8/2017 8:56:17 PM   
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/08/569370879/november-jobs-report-economy-adds-228-000-jobs-unemployment-steady

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"Employment growth has averaged 174,000 per month thus far this year, compared with an average monthly gain of 187,000 in 2016," the agency's acting Commissioner William J. Wiatrowski said of the report.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/11/2017 8:06:01 PM   
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Record lows in manufacturing jobs in the U.S. just continues a trend started in the 1970s.

Made to standards different than the ISO standards used by most of the world.
Uses fasteners not readily available outside of the U.S. and Canada
Have to be modified to meet safety specs.
Needs different common hand tools than most of the world uses.

Frankly, it is hard to give away U.S. manufactured goods in most of the world these days.


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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 7:04:23 AM   
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With Obama, the "experts" were always revising the reports down

They reported good news for jobs and growth up front, then quietly report the truth later

With this president, the exact opposite is true: First they claim things are so-so, then quietly report that the economy is literally booming at a later date

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N.Y. Fed raises U.S. fourth-quarter GDP growth view to near 4 percent

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Federal Reserve on Friday raised its estimate of U.S. gross domestic product growth for the fourth quarter of 2017 closer to 4 percent, based on revisions of prior data that suggested stronger economic activities.


We never saw 3% growth under Obama, though we did hear plenty, "Get used to a bad economy folks" and "Trump ain't gonna make nuthin' happen either!"

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 9:55:01 AM   
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between the floodgates breaking from china, and the hurricanes damage cleanup, gdp is up, but thats about all that has happened. Not new fiscal policy.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 10:49:33 AM   
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We never saw 3% growth under Obama, though we did hear plenty, "Get used to a bad economy folks" and "Trump ain't gonna make nuthin' happen either!"


Yeah not so much
Liar

ps, this was I think from last quarter, it was true then its true now.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth
https://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/
https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/glance.htm

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 12:03:33 PM   
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Not a big deal. The DOW is up over 6000 pts. since the election.

And for the umpteeth time, the DOW ain't shit as fellow investors always told me and most anyone could logically deduce. All that means is DOW investors have made a few more bucks since the tripling of the DOW under Obama.

2 companies could go up while the other 28 remain even even or lose value and the DOW index which is what we describe...goes up. I am sure Trump and his cronies are wealthier. "The name of the game in the US...get wealthier...at all costs.

[It] is only 30 companies out many 1000's of companies and none of which are creating jobs, bringing any back, have or will repatriate [sic] untaxed profits, paying any more in fed. taxes, create no new net jobs and are still in the business in fact of reducing their American payrolls. although if one were honest, could call corp. America traitors for parking profits offshore.

Note: The DJIA hit a market low of 6,443.27 on March 6, 2009, having lost over 54% of its value since the October 9, 2007 high. On Jan. 20th just before inauguration, it hit 19,827.25

228,000 was exceeded by Obama 32 times of his 96 months in office.

But we all just know he was a communist, Kenyan jihadist out to ruin America.

America never ceases to be one big partisan, moronic society. This OP is just more evidence.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 12:06:54 PM   
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Maybe you should invest in US stocks then ?

US 'stocks' is not the DOW (see above) and no, they all are not going up.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 12:11:54 PM   
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Our economy seems to be doing quite well. Of course, we're still running off of budgets passed during Obama's administration.

I don't feel certain about our current economy. I don't know that it's sustainable.

Locally, I worry that displaced Puerto Ricans will be competing for available jobs throughout Florida, particularly seasonal jobs that many locals rely on, such as in the citrus industry, retail, etc. 215,000 Puerto Rican residents have temporarily relocated to Florida since Irma devestated the island in October.


You believe the Obama budget is responsible for the economy boost as well as the stock markets incredible rise as the Trump victory was announced.

Hillary is up by 32 points.


I think many indicators point to the economy growing steadily throughout Obama's presidency. I don't think I'm taking anything away from Trump by telling the truth regarding which President signed our current budget.

Consumer confidence is even higher under Trump than it was when Obama left office. But i'm still not convinced that it's sustainable or real, as in based on anything more than feeling, although I suppose that's exactly what consumer confidence is measuring.

Trouble is, having discovered since Reagan, so-called consumer confidence does not mean more consumption. The bottom 40-50% of wage earners cannot do what the capitalist profiteers want, afford to buy.

The bottom 1/2 or more of the American consumers are fucking tapped out. Doing business with all of those poor working America is directly proportional to your customer's ability to...borrow the money.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 12:15:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Of course, now that I click the original link in the OP, it's a Google search, and not an actual video we're being directed to.

What Obama said was that some specific jobs would not be coming back. Assembly lines have been heavily automated in the manufacturing industry, so the jobs available going forward will not be what was once available. The training required for those jobs would also be much different.

None of that is untrue.

Meaning the thread is based on useless and partisan clickbait.

Come on JV, you know this is partisan rant. The entire right 'mocked' Obama for absolutely everything up to and including...wearing the wrong colored suit. So this is OP is really, a waste of pixels.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 12:17:16 PM   
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U.S. Trade Deficit Is Widest Since January

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/u-s-trade-deficit-is-widest-since-january-on-record-imports

The U.S. trade deficit widened in October to a nine-month high on record imports that reflect steady domestic demand, Commerce Department data showed Tuesday.

HIGHLIGHTS OF TRADE BALANCE (OCTOBER)
Gap increased 8.6% to $48.7b (est. $47.5b) from revised $44.9b in prior month that was wider than previously reported
Imports climbed 1.6% to $244.6b, boosted by mobile phones, apparel, household goods and service-related purchases
Exports were unchanged at $195.9b as more shipments of petroleum were offset by declines of capital equipment, consumer goods
Key Takeaways
The surge in imports probably reflected merchants preparing for the holiday-shopping season. Consumer goods imports increased almost $800 million, including a $303 million gain in cell phones and other household goods, as well as more inbound shipments of furniture, appliances, toys and clothing.

The shortfall in goods and services trade, if sustained, may weigh on economic growth in the fourth quarter after net exports added 0.43 percentage point to gross domestic product in the previous three-month period.

Steady consumer spending and a pickup in business investment will continue to drive demand for imports. At the same time, sales of American-made merchandise could improve as economies in the rest of the world advance.

The latest report also showed record imports from China led to a wider trade gap. Shipments from Mexico were also the highest ever, causing the U.S. gap with that country to expand in October.

Amazing how Americans must import American products made by American companies...from a foreign country.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 12:22:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Record lows in manufacturing jobs in the U.S. just continues a trend started in the 1970s.

Made to standards different than the ISO standards used by most of the world.
Uses fasteners not readily available outside of the U.S. and Canada
Have to be modified to meet safety specs.
Needs different common hand tools than most of the world uses.

Frankly, it is hard to give away U.S. manufactured goods in most of the world these days.


No it isn't at all. I fact by getting rid of all US manufacturing that corp. America can, becomes the most cost-effective (profitable) industrial engineering of all.


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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 12:24:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

With Obama, the "experts" were always revising the reports down

They reported good news for jobs and growth up front, then quietly report the truth later

With this president, the exact opposite is true: First they claim things are so-so, then quietly report that the economy is literally booming at a later date

quote:

N.Y. Fed raises U.S. fourth-quarter GDP growth view to near 4 percent

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Federal Reserve on Friday raised its estimate of U.S. gross domestic product growth for the fourth quarter of 2017 closer to 4 percent, based on revisions of prior data that suggested stronger economic activities.


We never saw 3% growth under Obama, though we did hear plenty, "Get used to a bad economy folks" and "Trump ain't gonna make nuthin' happen either!"

.....and they were correct. So far [he] aint' done nothing.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 5:13:11 PM   
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I know what the DJIA is. It a sample, if you will, of 30 stocks in many different companies. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is just that. An average. Of course all stocks don't go up. All stocks go up and down on a daily basis. However when toe DOW is up nearly 7000 points in 1 year, that is historic.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/18/2017 8:40:38 PM   
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Thanks for letting me know that all stocks don't go up all the time. I didn't know that.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/19/2017 5:22:37 PM   
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US current account trade deficit drops 19.2 percent in Q3



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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/19/2017 5:49:04 PM   
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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/21/2017 8:21:20 AM   
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With Obama, the "experts" were always revising the reports down

They reported good news for jobs and growth up front, then quietly report the truth later

With this president, the exact opposite is true: First they claim things are so-so, then quietly report that the economy is literally booming at a later date

quote:

N.Y. Fed raises U.S. fourth-quarter GDP growth view to near 4 percent

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New York Federal Reserve on Friday raised its estimate of U.S. gross domestic product growth for the fourth quarter of 2017 closer to 4 percent, based on revisions of prior data that suggested stronger economic activities.


We never saw 3% growth under Obama, though we did hear plenty, "Get used to a bad economy folks" and "Trump ain't gonna make nuthin' happen either!"



Oh, so much losing, it is 3.2 percent, actual...even a socialist from kenya can do that (and has). Trump is making America lose again. Trump should drain the swamp starting with himself.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/21/2017 11:37:47 AM   
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even a socialist from kenya can do that (and has)...


id ask for substantiation of your claim, but I might as well ask a monkey to type a coherent sentence. different name but still the same ineffectualness.

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Here is the complete list of average annual real GDP growth by postwar president (in descending order):

Johnson (1964-68), 5.3%
Kennedy (1961-63), 4.3%
Clinton (1993-2000), 3.9%
Reagan (1981-88), 3.5%
Carter (1977-80), 3.3%
Eisenhower (1953-60), 3.0%
(Post-WWII average: 2.9%)
Nixon (1969-74), 2.8%
Ford (1975-76), 2.6%
G. H. W. Bush (1989-92), 2.3%
G. W. Bush (2001-08), 2.1%
Truman (1946-52), 1.7%
Obama (2009-15), 1.5%

(According to the BEA, real GDP growth in 2016 has been 0.8 percent in the first quarter and 1.2 percent in the second quarter. Those figures, being from an incomplete year, are not included in President Obama’s tally. If economic growth does not improve over the rest of 2016, however, his overall tally would drop slightly.)...

Here is the complete list of the best year of real GDP growth under each postwar president (in descending order):...

Obama (2015), 2.6% [this number is the lowest]


https://www.hudson.org/research/12714-economic-growth-by-president?ref=patrick.net

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2016Q4 4,726,386M.$ 0.4% 1.8%
2016Q3 4,682,283M.$ 0.7% 1.5%
2016Q2 4,609,125M.$ 0.6% 1.2%
2016Q1 4,570,400M.$ 0.1% 1.4%

2016 18,624,500M.$ 1.5%


https://countryeconomy.com/gdp/usa?year=2016


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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/21/2017 12:19:38 PM   
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Considering that no presidential policy has ever created jobs, except when they increase defense spending and push for some science fiction based defense initiative.

I mean the star wars programs created some pretty substantial tech advances, but nothing really in the line of stopping a nuclear attack.

If Trump or any president wants to get serious about creating jobs, they need to find a way to put the screws to the companies sending jobs over seas, like say automatic tax rates of 40% for every dollar of profit generated by income from products American companies produce over seas and sell in the states.

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RE: Obama Mocks Trump Over Creating US Jobs - YouTube - 12/21/2017 1:15:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterDrakk
even a socialist from kenya can do that (and has)...


id ask for substantiation of your claim, but I might as well ask a monkey to type a coherent sentence. different name but still the same ineffectualness.

quote:

Here is the complete list of average annual real GDP growth by postwar president (in descending order):

Johnson (1964-68), 5.3%
Kennedy (1961-63), 4.3%
Clinton (1993-2000), 3.9%
Reagan (1981-88), 3.5%
Carter (1977-80), 3.3%
Eisenhower (1953-60), 3.0%
(Post-WWII average: 2.9%)
Nixon (1969-74), 2.8%
Ford (1975-76), 2.6%
G. H. W. Bush (1989-92), 2.3%
G. W. Bush (2001-08), 2.1%
Truman (1946-52), 1.7%
Obama (2009-15), 1.5%

(According to the BEA, real GDP growth in 2016 has been 0.8 percent in the first quarter and 1.2 percent in the second quarter. Those figures, being from an incomplete year, are not included in President Obama’s tally. If economic growth does not improve over the rest of 2016, however, his overall tally would drop slightly.)...

Here is the complete list of the best year of real GDP growth under each postwar president (in descending order):...

Obama (2015), 2.6% [this number is the lowest]


https://www.hudson.org/research/12714-economic-growth-by-president?ref=patrick.net

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2016Q4 4,726,386M.$ 0.4% 1.8%
2016Q3 4,682,283M.$ 0.7% 1.5%
2016Q2 4,609,125M.$ 0.6% 1.2%
2016Q1 4,570,400M.$ 0.1% 1.4%

2016 18,624,500M.$ 1.5%


https://countryeconomy.com/gdp/usa?year=2016



I would ask you if you are a fucking imbecile but you answer for yourself in the affirmative. Quarterly growth. Under discussion and pointing out the factlessness.

Get a dictionary, or take a dollar out of your welfare check and ask for quarters they will give you 4.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/

Looks like this loser has to beat some pretty big numbers, and of course he is Yugely deficit in that area.

Looks like the orange cockwomble is running about 2.7 for the year....Wholly inadequate.

As an oafish oik, never coherent, you might consider shutting your factless propaganda hole because it only makes you look as cretinous as you actually are.

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