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RE: Your Favourite Crassmas Song? - 12/30/2017 11:05:41 AM   
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really, it's pretty gritty and dark, isn't it?

Actually it is an uplifting song about love, forgiveness and redemption.

It's hard to see the whole "it's never too late" thing as dark either, come to that.

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RE: Your Favourite Crassmas Song? - 12/30/2017 5:21:56 PM   
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Exactly, there is nothing dark about it. Gritty? Yes, but then for the vast majority of people life is gritty, and the song shows how even the poor and downtrodden find solace in love.

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RE: Your Favourite Crassmas Song? - 12/31/2017 9:31:20 AM   
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RE: Your Favourite Crassmas Song? - 12/31/2017 9:38:34 AM   
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Please site your source. I have never seen this song on any top 10 Christmas song list above #10. Curious to see who rated it #1


Strewth - I don't know. I can't remember - or I was outright lying.
'Most popular' doesn't mean 'biggest selling', of course; neither does it mean most popular *ever, over all time* ....

The nearest I can find in support is in the Wikipedia entry on the song - "In the UK it is the most-played Christmas song of the 21st century.[4] "Fairytale of New York" has been cited as the best Christmas song of all time in various television, radio and magazine related polls in the UK and Ireland.[5]"

And, true, it could be surprising amd quite counterintuitive that Fairytale is the 'most popular Xmas song' to those who've grown up with e.g. Bing's 'White Christmas', plus many others.

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RE: Your Favourite Crassmas Song? - 12/31/2017 10:07:57 AM   
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Exactly, there is nothing dark about it. Gritty? Yes, but then for the vast majority of people life is gritty, and the song shows how even the poor and downtrodden find solace in love.


Myself, I always did find it uplifting because, for me, it was about two people at Xmas who are ripping each other to shreds ... but, nonetheless, still *were* together at Xmas. That was the main thing, for me. I might have been wrong about 'dark', fair enough: (The Pogues weren't really 'dark', I'd say - not as in 'black' and 'miserable', anyway - they were too into the craic for that) but if only 'gritty', it's a very, *very* gritty song. For instance, insofar as it's a story, it could (should?) be read as about Shane MacGowan being shoved in the drunk tank by NY cop (his real-life friend Matt Dillon) and reminiscing, in his drunken stupor, about his relationship with Kirsty MacColl. Then there are the lines, towards the end, "Happy Christmas your arse, I pray God it's our last".

Anyway - I'll declare an interest (and slot in some *super*-impressive name-dropping in the process ): My younger bro went out with the sister of Andrew Rankin, the Pogues' drummer, for about a year. So I have an extra little reason for being very fond of them as well as that song in particular. Till 1987 when 'Fairytale' came out they'd had hits, but nothing that made them properly 'big time' - in their own eyes, at least. Elvis Costello had challenged them to do an Xmas song that would make it, but at the same time not lead to them 'selling out' in favour of the giant demographic that required slush at Xmas. It looks like the song will endure for eternity - I hope so. I liked them, despite their being world-class pissheads who were always in danger of sinking their careers as a result.







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