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Real0ne -> The American Indian (12/24/2017 4:37:32 PM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr-lCJp9v1E

Creating democracy.



kdsub -> RE: The American Indian (12/24/2017 5:25:08 PM)

What is your point? Just say it.

Butch



MrRodgers -> RE: The American Indian (12/24/2017 7:48:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr-lCJp9v1E

Creating democracy.

I don't see democracy being created. So.....?



servantforuse -> RE: The American Indian (12/24/2017 9:03:09 PM)

The Potowotomni (tribe) sorry for the spelling, Takes in a million dollars a day in their casino in Milwaukee.



MrRodgers -> RE: The American Indian (12/24/2017 10:49:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The Potowotomni (tribe) sorry for the spelling, Takes in a million dollars a day in their casino in Milwaukee.

Interesting. The tribe's net win that is, the net amount lost by gamblers at its Milwaukee casino during the 12-month period that ended July 31 is about $400 million according to an estimate based on payments the tribe made to the local and state governments.

Those Indians must really love gambling. Or they are getting a whole lotta non-Indian business. Growth was essentially flat for 2016.

HERE



DesideriScuri -> RE: The American Indian (12/25/2017 7:57:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub
What is your point? Just say it.
Butch


The video starts out: "random pits placed symmetrically"

If the pits were 'placed symmetrically,' wouldn't that be considered NOT random?



DaddySatyr -> RE: The American Indian (12/25/2017 11:17:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub
What is your point? Just say it.
Butch


The video starts out: "random pits placed symmetrically"

If the pits were 'placed symmetrically,' wouldn't that be considered NOT random?



I didn't see the whole thing because I'm fairly sure what those pits were. I am willing to tell, if y'all won't bust my chops for "spoilers".

Good catch on the random/non-random, Desi.



Peace,


Michael



WhoreMods -> RE: Science event of the year (12/25/2017 12:40:31 PM)

FR
They're not American Indians.
They were there when you whiney bitches' ancestors were still bleating about not being allowed a theocracy in Europe. Calling them "American" anything is a half baked and laughable attempt at co-option.



DaddySatyr -> RE: Science event of the year (12/25/2017 12:53:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

FR
They're not American Indians.
They were there when you whiney bitches' ancestors were still bleating about not being allowed a theocracy in Europe. Calling them "American" anything is a half baked and laughable attempt at co-option.



Demonstrating, once again, you know sweet fuck-all about me.

Try an experiment? Do a forum search with "Native" or "Indian" or "Cherokee" and use my name (this one or "Satyr6406") as the "author name".



Best wishes to you and your'n,


P.S.; changing a thread name is a "no-no".



WhoreMods -> RE: Science event of the year (12/25/2017 12:59:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

FR
They're not American Indians.
They were there when you whiney bitches' ancestors were still bleating about not being allowed a theocracy in Europe. Calling them "American" anything is a half baked and laughable attempt at co-option.



Demonstrating, once again, you know sweet fuck-all about me.

Try an experiment? Do a forum search with "Native" or "Indian" or "Cherokee" and use my name (this one or "Satyr6406") as the "author name".



Best wishes to you and your'n,


P.S.; changing a thread name is a "no-no".

Your claiming an ethnic heritage alters the fact that these people were in North America at least a couple of thousand years before Columbus and Vespucci how, pray tell?



DaddySatyr -> RE: Science event of the year (12/25/2017 1:18:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Your claiming an ethnic heritage alters the fact that these people were in North America at least a couple of thousand years before Columbus and Vespucci how, pray tell?



I apologize. I didn't register the "FR".

I will add this, though: Europeans didn't come here because they couldn't have a theocracy in Europe. They came here to escape the Theocratic Monarchies.

In-bred European Kings and Queens had no problem accepting validation from the Church of Rome.






DaddySatyr -> RE: The American Indian (12/25/2017 1:19:43 PM)


Just posting this to return the title to what it was, originally.






bounty44 -> RE: Science event of the year (12/25/2017 2:44:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
They're not American Indians.
They were there when you whiney bitches' ancestors were still bleating about not being allowed a theocracy in Europe. Calling them "American" anything is a half baked and laughable attempt at co-option.


the point about their being here before Europeans arrived is absolutely inconsequential to what they are called.

the "American" part of "American Indians" distinguishes them from "Asian" Indians.

it also distinguishes them from an "indian American"

whats more, the "American" part of "native American" also distinguishes them from other "natives," that is, Americans of all stripes who were born here.

saying "indigenous people" only works if a frame of reference is already established, you know, like "America" as opposed to "Australia"

the encyclopedia brittanica refers to them as "American Indians"

so does the history channel and a host of other reputable, studied, educational places.

so does the government in some instances.

so does the National Congress of American Indians (in case youre wondering, that is, THE INDIANS THEMSELVES)

and then there is this gem:

quote:

Some American Indians prefer the term American Indian over Native American for specific reasons.


http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/nc-american-indians/5526

now, back to a recent topic, one of insults.

given the above, youre a fool. the fact that you lack any respect for me is irrelevant. the insult works because, its fitting; that is, its true.

got that now?

oh, and way to muck up the reasons why the settlers came here in the first place!

see the sentiment expressed three lines up.



MrRodgers -> RE: Science event of the year (12/25/2017 3:20:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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Some American Indians prefer the term American Indian over Native American for specific reasons.




That's because the expression 'Native American' applies to all people born here. I am a 'Native American' and of Irish descent.



DaddySatyr -> RE: The American Indian (12/25/2017 8:48:16 PM)

Just fixing the thread title, again.



Greta75 -> RE: The American Indian (12/26/2017 12:41:26 AM)

I like the word "native american" better.

Because the word Indian refers to people from India, which those guys in the US are not from India.

And while "Red Indian" is a racial slur in the US.

In Asia, we literally refer to them as Red Indians, because we are use to "Black Indians", which is our default Indians. So to differentiate them. The American version of Indians are considered Red Indians, and our regular Indians, are Indians.

But we also refer to white people as Red Hair folks in our own language. So I don't know what's up with the colour red. Like even if they see a blonde or a brunette, that person will be called Red hair. I think we got the 1% drop of blood rule for white people here. As people with white blood are all referred to as red hair too. And it's truly and honestly not a derogatory word, but a friendly word.






Greta75 -> RE: Science event of the year (12/26/2017 12:48:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
That's because the expression 'Native American' applies to all people born here. I am a 'Native American' and of Irish descent.


I don't agree with the meaning of Native.

To me, Native refers to the original people that occupy the country. And not the immigrants descendants born to that country.

So like even Taiwan has indigenous people. And they would be called Native Taiwanese which is different from the ones that migrate from China to Taiwan.

So you wouldn't be a Native, as your ancestors were immigrants.

I wouldn't even consider myself a Native Singaporean because my great great great and gawd knows how many "greats" ago, migrated here.

I think there has gotta be like a differentiation. With respect giving to the original people of the territory. That our fore fathers has came in and took their land.

I honestly think it's quite sad. I mean, even in my own country. It started with the Brits who invaded. Then later Chinese tookover although by democracy, but fact is, the land belong to the Natives Malay. But they were weak, so stronger races took over.

You know one of the reason why our this year Presidency was reserved specially for the Native people only is because, we took their land. I am not 100% disgruntled about it. Because I recognise that we took their land and we are kind enough to let them be President as a gesture. Because in almost every country that got invaded by non-native, their natives always suffer the most. And struggle economically and in every way. As they cannot adapt to the new culture sweeping in. Look at Aboriginals in Australia. Same shit. We wanted to give them hope. That they can! It's actually very kind but controversial.

America was certainly not a white country. Red Indians are the authentic original Americans.



DaddySatyr -> RE: The American Indian (12/26/2017 1:20:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I like the word "native american" better.

Because the word Indian refers to people from India, which those guys in the US are not from India.



Actually, there's plenty of evidence to suggest that my ancestors (Native Americans, American Indians, whatever) came across the Bering Land Bridge (when it existed) from Asia and settled here.






bounty44 -> RE: Science event of the year (12/26/2017 5:14:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
But we also refer to white people as Red Hair folks in our own language. So I don't know what's up with the colour red. Like even if they see a blonde or a brunette, that person will be called Red hair...


that's interesting greta, ive not heard that before.

it sorta parallels a phenomena we have in some part of the south here concerning soda pop, where everything is a "coke"

quote:

don't agree with the meaning of Native.

To me, Native refers to the original people that occupy the country. And not the immigrants descendants born to that country.


it can mean both depending on the context of its usage.



DaddySatyr -> RE: Science event of the year (12/26/2017 7:34:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greta75
But we also refer to white people as Red Hair folks in our own language. So I don't know what's up with the colour red. Like even if they see a blonde or a brunette, that person will be called Red hair...


that's interesting greta, ive not heard that before.

it sorta parallels a phenomena we have in some part of the south here concerning soda pop, where everything is a "coke"



I don't know if it's the origin of the "red" thing, but I know Sicilians believe Judas Iscariot had red hair; to the point where people with red hair are still (sometimes) given the "nickname" of "malpelo" (bad hair).



Peace,


Michael



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