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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 2/7/2023 5:02:25 PM   
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Here's your daily reminder that everything about Joe Biden is fake.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/19/2023 2:28:11 AM   
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So Republicans voted to stall efforts to remove George Santos. Cuz yeah, that makes sense.

See, the wrongdoing Santos has obviously done shouldn't have to be criminal (though it probably is) for an elected member of the House to be removed.

Let a jury decide guilt. Let the GOP decide if that's the sort of behaviour they'll put up with.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/19/2023 3:07:22 PM   
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So Republicans voted to stall efforts to remove George Santos. Cuz yeah, that makes sense.

See, the wrongdoing Santos has obviously done shouldn't have to be criminal (though it probably is) for an elected member of the House to be removed.

Let a jury decide guilt. Let the GOP decide if that's the sort of behaviour they'll put up with.



They need his vote. Plain and simple. They are political whores. It's obvious to I would think everyone. That is why they voted to send him to the ethics committee, where he was ALREADY referred.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/20/2023 6:20:32 AM   
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Breaking: George Santos Arrested, 534 Members Of Congress Still At Large

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/20/2023 8:36:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

So Republicans voted to stall efforts to remove George Santos. Cuz yeah, that makes sense.

See, the wrongdoing Santos has obviously done shouldn't have to be criminal (though it probably is) for an elected member of the House to be removed.

Let a jury decide guilt. Let the GOP decide if that's the sort of behaviour they'll put up with.



They need his vote. Plain and simple. They are political whores. It's obvious to I would think everyone. That is why they voted to send him to the ethics committee, where he was ALREADY referred.


No, they actually didn't need his vote. Although Republicans have a very slim majority in the House, they do have enough breathing room for Santos to not matter so much. And news of his methods was certainly available in time for any Committee assignments in his first term.

Not much different than John Fedderman not creating a panic for the Dems in the Senate, when he decided to take time off. As opposed to Dianne Feinstein being absent due to her own medical needs, creating a 10-10 tie in the Senate Judiciary Committee .

Republicans don't need Santos, or his vote. So there has to be more there.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/20/2023 5:28:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: JVoV

So Republicans voted to stall efforts to remove George Santos. Cuz yeah, that makes sense.

See, the wrongdoing Santos has obviously done shouldn't have to be criminal (though it probably is) for an elected member of the House to be removed.

Let a jury decide guilt. Let the GOP decide if that's the sort of behaviour they'll put up with.



They need his vote. Plain and simple. They are political whores. It's obvious to I would think everyone. That is why they voted to send him to the ethics committee, where he was ALREADY referred.


No, they actually didn't need his vote. Although Republicans have a very slim majority in the House, they do have enough breathing room for Santos to not matter so much. And news of his methods was certainly available in time for any Committee assignments in his first term.

Not much different than John Fedderman not creating a panic for the Dems in the Senate, when he decided to take time off. As opposed to Dianne Feinstein being absent due to her own medical needs, creating a 10-10 tie in the Senate Judiciary Committee .

Republicans don't need Santos, or his vote. So there has to be more there.


Hmmmm... I would disagree with you on that.

They have a 9-seat advantage. If they lose 5, they lose a vote. (Keep in mind there is no filibuster in the House)

I would say, and I have hear many political experts say they need his vote. There is no other reason to delay his ousting from the House.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/20/2023 7:53:47 PM   
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Then you are disagreeing with basic math. McCarthy, as Speaker has the advantage of calling for a vote on his schedule, giving him time to get everyone he needs to show up.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/20/2023 8:32:56 PM   
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Then you are disagreeing with basic math. McCarthy, as Speaker has the advantage of calling for a vote on his schedule, giving him time to get everyone he needs to show up.


Actually, I have no quarrel with basic math at all. I am saying as a political matter on future votes on hypothetical issues, it is common for 4 or 5 members to not be on board. McCarthy needs every vote he can get. If he loses 4 members on any particular vote, Santos' vote is critical.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 6:14:31 AM   
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Hypothetical vote math. Yup, sounds like bullshit.

McCarthy could have gotten on the right side of this, but the entire GOP House has proven they don't care about integrity by protecting Santos. They already faced an uphill climb protecting Trump.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 6:33:43 AM   
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Hypothetical vote math. Yup, sounds like bullshit.

McCarthy could have gotten on the right side of this, but the entire GOP House has proven they don't care about integrity by protecting Santos. They already faced an uphill climb protecting Trump.


Sorry... not bullshit. Rather it is how politics works in Congress. As Speaker or Majority Leader, when you have a slim majority, you want as many people as possible you can count on for their vote. If you have a 9-seat majority in a 218-member house, you could lose 5 of your members who don't want to get on board. That's why McCarthy wants to keep Santos in the House for a while. Everyone who follows politics knows this.

Despite Arrest, GOP Leaders Won't Expel George Santos: ‘McCarthy Needs His Vote'

McCarthy needs George Santos’ vote in ‘razor-thin’ margins: Ameshia Cross

Leader Kevin McCarthy, who needs every vote he can get in the closely divided House.
From the above article...
quote:

Leader Kevin McCarthy, who needs every vote he can get in the closely divided House.



Sorry... I thought you were a political junkie like me and and understood how this stuff worked.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 6:40:21 AM   
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You quote an article. I still say BULLSHIT. You can come up with whatever excuse you need to, in order to rationalize it. That doesn't make it any less bullshit.

The GOP is operating in unison in the House these days; there are no mavericks. Santos isn't necessary. Going forward, it's more likely that McCarthy would have a smaller majority because somebody took a long weekend than actually found their soul.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 7:04:58 AM   
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You quote an article. I still say BULLSHIT. You can come up with whatever excuse you need to, in order to rationalize it. That doesn't make it any less bullshit.

The GOP is operating in unison in the House these days; there are no mavericks. Santos isn't necessary. Going forward, it's more likely that McCarthy would have a smaller majority because somebody took a long weekend than actually found their soul.


I quoted 3 separate articles. There are literally dozens more. Even Fox News admitted it. It seems every political show in the US and some in Europe have been saying it.

I sincerely thought this was common knowledge.

OK... Keep saying BULLSHIT if it makes you happy.

But it is well known that McCarthy wants to keep Santos around because he needs his vote. If that were not true, Mr. Santos would be a private citizen as I type.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 11:40:09 AM   
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Don't be fooled. McCarthy is using Santos to do his dirty work. They both know Santos' days are numbered.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 12:19:16 PM   
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Don't be fooled. McCarthy is using Santos to do his dirty work. They both know Santos' days are numbered.


ok.. I won't be fooled. What "dirty work" are you talking about?

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 12:42:08 PM   
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I'm talking about the reality of what Santos has done while in Congress, as opposed to your hypothetical vote math.

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RE: GOP House-Elect lied on his resume - 5/21/2023 5:53:44 PM   
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I'm talking about the reality of what Santos has done while in Congress, as opposed to your hypothetical vote math.

FIRST
The reality of what George Santos has done in Congress? He has done NOTHING in Congress except:

1. Try his best to lay low and not draw any more attention
2. Vote the way McCarthy wants him to vote
3. CO-sponsor an awesome tax bill to remove the cap on SALT deductions

SECOND
I have no hypothetical vote math.
There are REAL votes coming up in the House. - A revised Debt ceiling bill for one! (Which could EASILY lose 5 Republicans slightly to the left or the right). He NEEDS Santos vote!

These are REAL votes with REAL Math! Not Hypothetical. If he loses 5 members on anything, his vote is dead without Santos.

I am not sure why that is so difficult for you to understand?

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