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Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 9:32:14 AM

raiken

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Okay, since i was reading the "physical attributes" topic...and i was reminded of the tongue and its glorious wonders...rather than to hijack that thread i was 'compelled' to start my own...

There have been those who enjoy deep throating, and do it with such ease...
i had one gf who once stated that she can suck the bumpers off a Dodge Ram...
<as the men drool in anticipation while awaiting their turn>

i have heard others complain of "where to put their teeth".
How do you handle this, when having a small jaw, tmj (oh...the pain of it all-lol), and then where to put those annoying teeth? LOL!

Have any of you actually turned down a sub/slave, specifically, who could not be as proficient as you would like in this area?

Have any sub/slaves actually been turned away for not being able to perform to the desires of your prospective dominant in this specific area?

Just a wonderin...

~raiken, a tmj, smalled jawed gal - honest about my physical limits...

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 9:44:35 AM

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"where to put their teeth".

I ask potentials if removal of natural teeth is a hard limit.

I have never had a problem with using my teeth. I simply do not use them while giving head. I had a very good teacher and I learned at an early age that using teeth is a huge no no, unless of course it is for MY own entertainment <s>

I think that practice makes perfect. The more you do, the better you will be at it.

Edited for typos. More coffee Henry!!

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 9:58:00 AM

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I have a relatively small mouth and TMJ myself. There are times when my jaw is so sore and stiff that I can't give pup a blowjob. He generally settles for a handjob or some other type of sex. It's a bit of a bummer sometimes, but not a huge problem. I've had my jaw locked shut for a week and wrenched open for a day. Neither experience was fun, so we're careful.

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 10:02:31 AM

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LOL! While i am okay with it MOST of the time, and have since learned to get by with being pleasing, i still have pain from tmj with the longevity part. i am honest and upfront about it, and am not ashamed that i have a physical limitation, and may not excell or be the perfect girl in this area. i learned how to get by, and manage the pain, and that is good for someone like me. i know of many who are ashamed in secret and have a harder time admitting this, so i guess my thoughts were on the line of those folks...i know of some who just can't seem to find anything to help them, and have a more difficult time with the painful part than i do, (my one friend has severe tmj), and experience frustration and fear of rejection in this area, no matter how much they practice. So i was curious about how they each worked it out within themselves and with their partners. i do understand if not many respond though, it is not an area that many care to discuss or should i say care to admit. i guess i am also wondering...if this is really a relationship buster to that great of an extent.

~raiken

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 10:06:31 AM

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Thanks zuma, it helps to hear how you handle it. *smile i have had my jaw dislocated in a car accident, and ever since the reconstructive surgery, it has never been the same, always painful, sometimes even after only 5 minutes. i had tmj before that also, so now it is compounded.

~raiken

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 10:48:48 AM

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Reposted:
Frankly, due to jaw problems and small mouth, I use my mouth only 30% of the time doing oral sex.

My generic method is to start with my hands- massage the cock, scratch the balls a bit, get the blood flowing so you can start to sense when it's getting hard.

Then I use my mouth to lick it gently, get it more sensitized and a bit wet. This is about the only time I put my mouth into the cock- when it's still only half hard and can fit easily, and I can roll my tongue around it inside.

After that, I keep my mouth almost completely on the head, which is the most sensitive, just licking and keeping saliva flowing so that my hands, which are doing all of the shaft work by stroking regularly. The fingers cover more area and are more manipulative than the tongue and you can keep the pace going much better than with your mouth alone.

So, teeth aren't a problem at all.

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 11:05:09 AM

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My teeth aren't a problem.. it's the breathing through my ears I have trouble with :)

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 11:19:14 AM

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Hey thanks LA! Learning good hand technique has been my life saver in this! LOL!

i guess part of what i was wondering is if anyone has ever felt an inadequacy in this area, due to various limitations with the jaw.

For me this is a very personal issue, for i had a very bad experience with my ex, who never let me forget how he wished he had a girl who could last and take it all, etc. i do believe it is part of the reason we are no longer together, for this was his top fav thing, and AFTER my accident i could no longer seem to fully please him as once used to. He was very frustrated toward the end. So, he decided to go find a young thang who could, throwing away 15 years of what for the most part was good, family and all.

Today he says he made a huge mistake and has regrets, hey live and learn, i guess he has learned to think more with his brain now, he even admitted it one time-lol, but even though i understand, and forgive, and we have maintained a friendship, it still doesn't remove the pain, and i still battle with feeling less of a woman at times over this, and it has caused me issue at times. For no matter how much logical thinking, reasoning, or deducing, over "hey you were in an accident, not your fault", or cajoling myself, or telling myself how valued i am in other areas, etc, positive self speak, and the whole shibang, there is still that nagging..that i am less of a woman in one of the more favorable arenas of male pleasuring. Ah, but for the most part, i survive and work it out. i guess this is a part of me working it out yet again...*smile

~raiken, just openly sharing and keeping it real...

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 11:20:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

My teeth aren't a problem.. it's the breathing through my ears I have trouble with :)

Well, since i have sinus problems too, it would be nice to learn how to breathe through my ears! LOL!

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 11:23:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: raiken
For me this is a very personal issue, for i had a very bad experience with my ex, who never let me forget how he wished he had a girl who could last and take it all, etc.

Bah. Yes, if someone's had a fabulous experience with a deep throater in the past, I'll get a bit wistful.

But hey, I'm me, this is my technique. You want to train me to deep throat and make it that much of a priority, you want to work on my jaw issues, you want to get mouth guards for me so I can do that....be my guest.

Oddly enough, no one's ever though they were missing out on anything big enough to do that. So I guess I'm doing just fine.

Trust me, blow jobs was NOT the reason he went after fresh meat.

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 11:48:37 AM

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Trust me, blow jobs was NOT the reason he went after fresh meat.

Thanks again LA, and i know (upon hindsight) that he just grew tired of the relationship and was trying to find things as an excuse to leave, he really just wanted a young thang, 15 years younger than i, with no responsibilities, like finances and kids, etc., and being a parent, and we were both the same age. He just couldn't handle being the leader anymore, he has a low stress tolerance level, and was not really cut out for parenting. However at the time, i took it very personal, and did not have that hindsight. Now the slave he is with is very young, and has no kids or other responsibilities so he gets her entire focus. That is his perrogative and that part i have no issue with, it is simply the mechanisms he used to hurt me, instead of just saying the truth, where i take issue.

Some people just don't realize the lasting effects their words can have.
AND, because i did/do wrestle with issues of inadequacy with the physical limitations since my accident and he knew how i felt, it just made it feel all the more painful and mean. It really cut. But i deal, it just gets to me every once in a while, like at present, this is one area i probably will always be a bit more sensitive about, for it cut so deep, and there is that undeniable truth to it in the physical sense that is a constant reminder.

Recently, there were actually two doms on cm, who gave me the cold shoulder after i shared my physical limitations with them, UPON THEIR ASKING, which i thought sucked, but i deal. It was like "how are you at sucking cock?" and i said, i am average, but not great because i have some jaw problems, and i got a sorry but no thanks from one, and another one said that i should put that info in my profile so i don't waste others time! Well, i don't take too many things of this nature to heart, but we all have our moments, and for some reason i was extra sensitve when i received these two notes. But i am strong, and have learned to cope with insults, and writing it here is theraputical for me in a sense. Thanks for reading. At any rate, i have always sought out someone who was more in the mind/heart, with the physical simply being the icing on the cake anyway.

~raiken

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 12:25:42 PM

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Sore jaws, low endurance, sensitive gag reflex--I've heard tell that all these conditions can be trained through. The question is..why would I want to learn how?? ROFL

The post reminds Me of a T-shirt I once saw. And before everyone gets all up in arms..RELAX..it wasn't My t-shirt, nor do I necessarily prescribe to it's sentiments, however, it seems apropos: "Male Doms are just in it for the BJs"
Obviously a scandalous overstatement..but I do find it funny that someone might contemplate turning away a submissive, simply because they didn't give good enough oral sex.

<donning flak jacket, waiting for the obligatory knee-jerk reactions> hehe
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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 12:27:41 PM

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It ain't my knee jerking, here.

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 12:45:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: raiken

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Trust me, blow jobs was NOT the reason he went after fresh meat.

Recently, there were actually two doms on cm, who gave me the cold shoulder after i shared my physical limitations with them, UPON THEIR ASKING, which i thought sucked, but i deal. It was like "how are you at sucking cock?" and i said, i am average, but not great because i have some jaw problems, and i got a sorry but no thanks from one, and another one said that i should put that info in my profile so i don't waste others time!

~raiken

WTF?! Sorry, but those two bastards deserve to be drug out in the street and kicked around until ribs break. Sons of bitches. Way to value a PERSON. *snorts* Fuck 'em.

zuma - irate kitty

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 1:15:06 PM

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Raiken..now think about it.. they declined your submission because you DIDN'T "suck" :) (indication of play on words there)

One is damned if they do and damned if they don't :)

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 1:31:24 PM

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Now this right here?

This is what I call a stand-up submissive, by god!!!

Ron..............

Look at you, zumi, you are so getting on!!!!!

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 1:38:46 PM

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Raiken..now think about it.. they declined your submission because you DIDN'T "suck" :) (indication of play on words there)

One is damned if they do and damned if they don't :)

chuckles darkly, yeah, i get it. ;->

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 1:40:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Now this right here?

This is what I call a stand-up submissive, by god!!!

Ron..............

Look at you, zumi, you are so getting on!!!!!

Yeah! We need more zuma's! Thanks girl!

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 1:41:59 PM

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LOL,

But don't you think you were a little rough?

LMFCAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(now you know the rest of the story out here........shitheads happen!)

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RE: Deep throating issues? - 8/4/2006 1:42:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressMaamNH
The post reminds Me of a T-shirt I once saw. And before everyone gets all up in arms..RELAX..it wasn't My t-shirt, nor do I necessarily prescribe to it's sentiments, however, it seems apropos: "Male Doms are just in it for the BJs"
Obviously a scandalous overstatement..

There is another reason to be in this? Gee, I never knew!! Would you please explain. *wink*

Dan

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