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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 6:43:03 PM   
Tamerofwild1s


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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Hi Cuddleheart50,
 
    I'm sadomasochist.  I enjoy inflicting erotic pain.  I like a sub to act as if
she doesn't like what I am doing.  I like her to pretend that I have kidnapped
her, and am forcing her to be tied up and forcing her to endure pain.   I am
not an intimidating kind of guy, so just about any female who knew me,
would have not fear that I would really hurt her.  I think a lot of females are
attracted to guys who look scary like bikers, guys with huge biceps, guys
and with a bad boy appearance.  I lean toward the nerd side of the spectrum.
I don't think many subs would be attracted to Bill Gates if he wasn't rich.
 
     I can't tolerate causing anyone the slightest degree of emotional pain. 
Nor could I ever really cause someone physical pain against their will. I'm
a vegetarian because I can't stand the thought of any animal suffering or
being killed for my eating pleasure. 
 
    I feel a lot of guilt for having sexually sadistic cravings.  I draw the line
for myself at finding a partner who enjoys receiving what I like to do, no
scat, no blood, and no permanent damage to the skin.   I like scenes
that are artistic and tasteful.  I think that anything more extreme than
what I do is not sane.  Needless to say, I am not into needle play.  If
a female craved physical pain, I could inflict any level of physical pain
without breaking the skin or leaving permanent marks.
 
    Just because I fantasize things doesn't mean I would do them. Has
anyone here ever thought about doing something criminal, but would
never do it in real life.   There is respect for the law. There is fear
of consequences.  There is the fact that I choose to live an
exceptionally moral life, helping others, and assuaging human
 and animal sadness.  I don't live to satisfy my sexual appetite
or my deviant perversions.  But if I can indulge them without
causing anyone emotional pain, I don't see the harm in it.  I don't
fear that if I indulge my primal cravings, that someday I may go
out of control. 
 
With love, lashes, and endless hugs,
Michael


I'll be .... someone just said I am not sane .... ain't that kick in the pants .. maybe before you go putting down those of us who do things a certain way you might walk in our shoes . or if you really are that passive maybe you don't want to put down those of us who walk a little different path ....just because you do something one way doesn't make me the least crazy .. and I will sit any day of the week in an armani suit and chit hcat with the likes of Gates and hold a stimulating conversation ... but I still enjoy and crave the stimulation I get from inflicting pain on a submissive especially one who craves what I can deal out .... and I wouldn't want her to pretend to hate it.

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 6:45:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

a sub who doesn't want the pain will not be with me .... she will avoid me because she knows this is something I crave in life. and there are those will crave it now after experiencing the pain I dole out in a certain way ..... most times being she had a bad experience once before with it . but once given a different way of seeing it she will then like it


Or you get someone like me- someone who is not at all a masochist but who attracts heavy sadists.  All of my former owners were very harsh sadists who enjoyed knowing I did NOT enjoy the pain at all.

And I have had no traumatic or damaging episodes with sadism.  I laugh at doms who try and tell me I just haven't experienced pain "the right way to enjoy it."

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 6:54:33 PM   
Tamerofwild1s


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

a sub who doesn't want the pain will not be with me .... she will avoid me because she knows this is something I crave in life. and there are those will crave it now after experiencing the pain I dole out in a certain way ..... most times being she had a bad experience once before with it . but once given a different way of seeing it she will then like it


Or you get someone like me- someone who is not at all a masochist but who attracts heavy sadists.  All of my former owners were very harsh sadists who enjoyed knowing I did NOT enjoy the pain at all.

And I have had no traumatic or damaging episodes with sadism.  I laugh at doms who try and tell me I just haven't experienced pain "the right way to enjoy it."


and only you can tell your "right way" to enjoy . I think you'll agree with me on that one

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 7:04:45 PM   
marieToo


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There are those who enjoy inflicting suffering;  both physical and psychological. 

Then there are those who enjoy inflicting  pleasureable "pain". 

Im sure it could be sliced and diced much further than that, but I think thats a pretty good dividing line. 



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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 7:34:03 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		Hi Tamer of wild ones,
 
> I'll be .... someone just said I am not sane .... ain't that kick in the pants
> .. maybe before you go putting down those of us who do things a certain
> way you might walk in our shoes .
 
You have me wrong, big guy.  I was not putting you down.  But I am just
as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours.  I am sure you draw a line
somewhere, too.  I do not judge you.  But I do judge certain activities.
You don't have to agree with me, and I don't have to agree with you.
I'm sure a lot more subs want what you have to offer than what I have
to offer.  And I'm sure if I was in your shoes, I would be you, and feel
and believe exactly as you do.   In my estimation, your exactly the kind
of guy most subs seek out.
 
I just don't understand why you feel you have to damage tissue or leave
permanent marks.  If this is not what you do, then maybe we don't have
any dispute after all.    Maybe, what we have is some misunderstanding.
 
> I will sit any day of the week in an armani suit and chit hcat with the
> likes of Gates and hold a stimulating conversation
 
Then you are way ahead of me.  I would never be caught dead in an armani
suit, and doubt there is anything I could say that Bill Gates would find
stimulating.  Anyway, I think Gates is a rather boring guy, and the biggest
software pirate of all time.  He stole MS-DOS from Gary Kildall.  I just
picked Gates because he is the posterchild for nerds.  
 
Best regards,
Michael

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 7:41:38 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		Hi Lucky Albatros,

> My forrmer owners were very harsh sadists who
> enjoyed knowing I did NOT enjoy the pain at all.

I am not a harsh sadist, but I do enjoy a sub who
does not enjoy pain at all, but is willing to take it
for my pleasure.  That is what I enjoy the most.
 
I can also give pleasurable pain to masochists
who enjoy it, but I prefer your type.  I enjoy
inflicting as much pain as a sub can stand,
and then a little more.  But I do this without
breaking the skin, or leaving permanent marks.
I like subs whose bodies are not covered
with scars and marks.
 
Michael
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 7:47:04 PM   
angelic


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ORIGINAL: marieToo

Reply to OP:

There are those who enjoy inflicting suffering;  both physical and psychological. 

Then there are those who enjoy inflicting  pleasureable "pain". 

Im sure it could be sliced and diced much further than that, but I think thats a pretty good dividing line. 





i agree there are honorable sadists (yes i said honorable) and then there are those that simply do it to watch another suffer without worry about the caring part... they (these will refer to the sub/slave as 'it' and truly mean it) are simply a vessel for their anger.  one i used to call Master was one of these... still is... still does...

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 7:48:57 PM   
Tamerofwild1s


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Status: offline 		Micheal
 
I do not consider myself ahead of any person out there . am I different . your dam straight .. but ahead of, or better, nah not at all. Using the Armani just was put there to show I can walk in a multitude of circles and fit in well .. life has been fortunate to deal me those cards. My sadism draws from the mild to the extreme damage tissue .. maybe .. depends on your definition of damaging ..  but I do consider myself very sane when I do what it is that I do and I love the taste of animal flesh gimme a good steak anyday . the rarer the better ... and I love the taste of female flesh too <eg>
 
my only reason for my post was merely to point out what you call insane some of us do not and we shouldn't be called names for it.
 
and by the way I am sure there are plenty of girls out there who find you style very attractive and me . well I have been called a sadistic twisted mean ass bastid so ..

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 7:49:57 PM   
Misstoyou


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ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

Looks like there is a wide range of sadism......I guess everyone looks at it from different points of view.....everyone takes it to different levels.



Yes. A small example. I told my 6 ft puppy to get on his hands and knees in the tub, as I was going to give him a bath... (his response: Yippee!)...in two inches of ice water. His response: "You really are a sadist, aren't you?" Of course the warming him up afterwards was fun, too...

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 7:55:28 PM   
nefertari


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Status: offline 		whipthehip:  You know, the OP was asking a question regarding types of sadism, not your opinion on who's right or who's wrong, or who's "sane" to use your word. *rolls eyes* You will find many masochists that enjoy the type of sadism that the more sadistic employ (for lack of a better word, forgive me).  If you make that kind of judgemental comment in a thread sure to be read and responded to by sadists, be prepared for the backlash. 

And, no, I'm not pissy or in a bad mood.  Just so tired of the "one true way-ism" and all the judgement-passing that has been so prevelant on the boards the past few days. 

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 8:25:15 PM   
TheOriginalBitch


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ORIGINAL: Misstoyou

quote:

ORIGINAL: cuddleheart50

Looks like there is a wide range of sadism......I guess everyone looks at it from different points of view.....everyone takes it to different levels.



Yes. A small example. I told my 6 ft puppy to get on his hands and knees in the tub, as I was going to give him a bath... (his response: Yippee!)...in two inches of ice water. His response: "You really are a sadist, aren't you?" Of course the warming him up afterwards was fun, too...


Misstoyou,

You are My kind of Woman! I had a pet puppy, she loved to go around on all 4's in the back yard naked no matter what time of year. Well one Winter the water hose just up and attacked her and a snowy morning. Yelps of shock, pain and more shock..........but she did enjoy the cuddle up and tie down next to the fireplace later.

Mistress
"The Original Bitch"

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 8:33:52 PM   
Tamerofwild1s


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Status: offline 		lmaooo hearing the snow ordeal made me think of a time I had a slave who had said something inappropriate one winter while we were out . I pulled near a snow bank and made her get out . once outside the car I pulled her panties down and lifted her skirt . made her sit right in the snow bank and proceeded to lecture her on her actions ... I could see the snow and cold was getting to her.
 
the warm up was especially nice but oh lord I know she was calling me a sadistic bastard in her brain

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 8:34:01 PM   
Homestead


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ORIGINAL: angelic

quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo

Reply to OP:

There are those who enjoy inflicting suffering;  both physical and psychological. 

Then there are those who enjoy inflicting  pleasureable "pain". 

Im sure it could be sliced and diced much further than that, but I think thats a pretty good dividing line. 





i agree there are honorable sadists (yes i said honorable) and then there are those that simply do it to watch another suffer without worry about the caring part... they (these will refer to the sub/slave as 'it' and truly mean it) are simply a vessel for their anger.  one i used to call Master was one of these... still is... still does...


Then I can see where some of your bitterness comes from.

I have felt the same from a sadist I bottomed to long ago as a newbie. Forgive, take your power back.

It was the only way I was able to heal. I came to the realization that my resentment only served that Sadist years after the fact. And that she was undeserving of it.

Dress your tormentor in the clown costume he so richly deserves, and toss him from the 40th floor windows of your heart and mind, into the cactus patch below.

Laugh and have joy in his absence, and your joy and power will be released, to return to you!

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 8:38:45 PM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: angelic

quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo

Reply to OP:

There are those who enjoy inflicting suffering;  both physical and psychological. 

Then there are those who enjoy inflicting  pleasureable "pain". 

Im sure it could be sliced and diced much further than that, but I think thats a pretty good dividing line. 





i agree there are honorable sadists (yes i said honorable) and then there are those that simply do it to watch another suffer without worry about the caring part... they (these will refer to the sub/slave as 'it' and truly mean it) are simply a vessel for their anger.  one i used to call Master was one of these... still is... still does...




But do you think its possible for a genuine sadist (the 'type' that you and I understand) to also be caring? 

I mean...I used to know one like you're talking about; one who was just really angry at women in general.   But I've also known sadists that weren't really pissed off at anyone or hateful at all, but just enjoyed inflicting pain.

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 8:40:13 PM   
angelic


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Status: offline 		Wow, Homestead, if i didn't know better, i'd think You might know me.    Thank You for those kinds words... i am touched.

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 8:42:09 PM   
marieToo


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Dress your tormentor in the clown costume he so richly deserves, and toss him from the 40th floor windows of your heart and mind, into the cactus patch below.



wow!  Talk about a sadist!

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 8:42:13 PM   
angelic


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Status: offline 		Unfortunately, i've only known the one 'true' sadist... and yes he hates women and i paid for whatever horrible things his mother did. 

Now back to the regularly scheduled thread

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 9:39:50 PM   
amayos


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quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo

Reply to OP:

There are those who enjoy inflicting suffering; both physical and psychological.

Then there are those who enjoy inflicting pleasureable "pain".

Im sure it could be sliced and diced much further than that, but I think thats a pretty good dividing line.



Ah, if it were only that easy...

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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 10:48:39 PM   
KennelDeSade2


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I'd say you get to do sadist in whatever flavor suits you.


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RE: Sadist - 8/7/2006 11:09:09 PM   
Needleddtits


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Status: offline 		no one person acts the same way...

but a sadist is simply a person that gains pleasure in the inflicting of pain.

However,

why a person gains such pleasure in inflicting pain is subjective

what pain a person likes to inflict is subjective

how a person likes to inflict this pain is subjective

where a person likes to inflict this pain is subjective

who a person likes to inflict this pain is subjective....


There is no universal answer here.
  Well said and pretty much sums it up in a nutshelll.

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