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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/6/2006 9:06:18 AM

Tamerofwild1s

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me personally . my kind is the homosapien classification . black white tan whatever . as long as the blood is red they are good to go ... I have considered a few times taking on a african american girl . but have yet to have the pleasure of one kneeling before me .... not to say it won't happen in the future tho.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/6/2006 9:20:04 AM

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When I express an opinion. I dont think someone should change the words around to fit their opinion. Just read it and move on.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/6/2006 9:35:43 AM

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I feel submissive is submissive. Vareity is the spice of life. would a black submissive be appealing I believe so. just as a white latino or white one would be. Do I look at color right away when looking for a submissive not usually. but I do have to admit when I come across one that is just that little bit different I do take a closer look

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/6/2006 9:36:56 AM

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I like black submissives, all submissives in fact, but my family is white. Race didn't choose them though, their personalities and how we got along did. If I did come across a black person who wanted to serve me that I did get along with before I had my family, I would have taken them, but the fact is, I just never had a black lover since 4th grade. The chemistry didn't work out that way, although race has never been important to me (had a Trinidad guy once even). We all bleed red. We are all humans. That is what is important to me.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/6/2006 10:20:25 AM

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I'm using the fast reply option.

From my perspective, specifically seeking out only one race is a bit strange, and in many ways I find people that only seek out blacks (but are of another race) downright creepy. I'm black, when I was single I talked to white dominants who were pretty much only interested in me because I happened to be black and I can't say I found it anything other than creepy. I wish I could be really nice and openminded and say everyone's choices are great, but thats not how I feel about *intentionally seeking someone of a different race than your own.*

My owner is white, but I didn't pick him because of that and he definitely didn't pick me (or have any particular interest in me) because I'm black. I'd love him if he were purple. Its one part of who we are and it certainly affects who we are and we have interesting discussions on issues of race, but neither of us has a particular fetish for racial groups or is remotely into race play (which I find fairly distasteful).

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/6/2006 3:25:08 PM

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Before I answer this post, I feel the need to address one statement made below...

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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW
People judge you based upon what comes out of your mouth or in this case the tips of your fingers.

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Darlin, this is the Domination/submission, BDSM world you speak of... if you cannot or are unwilling to accept anothers viewpoint, without being judgemental about it, then frankly, I'm surprised you don't piss off anyone and everyone you are around.

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now then, with that being said... On to the topic matter...

Born in New Orleans, and raised in southern Mississippi, I have to state the whole dynamic growing up was, shall I say, strained. Yet at the same time, I was always aroused at the idea of adding some brown sugar to my diet, so to speak.

I have never had a creole/african-american/black/colored (whatever the pc term is nowadays) submissive, but to be honest, I don't see skin tones anymore. Even when I am able to explore my sensually sadistic side, I don't "look" for redness, I want to "feel the heat," up close and personal.

Everybody bleeds red. If she bled green, or purple, or sumtin... then I would probably need to learn a new language... Vulcan, or Klingon, or something...

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/7/2006 5:44:07 PM

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Creole Cook Sweetheart,

If you are going to take my statement out of context, at least use the WHOLE statement and the statement in which I was replying to.

Thanks.

On the flip side of things, I am a Black DOMINANT that enjoys slaves of all shades, hues, colors, races (however you choose to describe yourself) However, I have found a shortage of Black male slaves. I have looked, for them and although there are a few, there are not very many. Therefore I have more experience with non Black male slaves than Black male slaves. All have their own attributes and should be based upon their merit rather than the amount of melanin in their skin.

Ms Loren

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/7/2006 9:07:30 PM

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Tal and greetings.

Actually I have not experienced this but I would like try a black slave. Although I do not know any blacks females who would be willing to be trained in kajira ways.

I wish you well

Nosathro

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 3:40:05 AM

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greetings to all

i guess i am a racist to black men. i did not start out this way i adore black men i wanted always someone as smart as my father and strong someone who did not drink but i ran into someone who beat me each time he could oh i wrote this before but he raped me so many times i did not know what to do. he was large there very large i was in pain i ran away to ca i never told my family being light he hit places where no one could see.

i was abuse by my brother my father was oh well crazy. all the black man who i care for abuse me the last was my child father. i tried to date black me but i was so scared and i know they are not all like but i have this fear of someone hurting me so i do not trust anyone male who is black ,
the one person i love was white and my family made me leave him to go with the beater so well that was it
i found i have always like white males as someone said the color and tone is so sexy.
i am treat so much better when i date white male they adore black woman i do not know why someone said we know how to take care of our men and we do not run around loooking for careers we do but in a ways where we still take care of our men. oh yes we can cook lol.

so now i come to know whie males are my choice as slaves submissive they are so sweet and funny anyone can adore me but they do it is a way that is so special. but white me it is said are the best oral sex givers and it is true vblack woman when we get together we speak of this so much lol
so that is why i date only white males i would never date a black man i do not find them sexula attractive at all

mons

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 8:51:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CreoleCook

Born in New Orleans, and raised in southern Mississippi, I have to state the whole dynamic growing up was, shall I say, strained. Yet at the same time, I was always aroused at the idea of adding some brown sugar to my diet, so to speak.

I have never had a creole/african-american/black/colored (whatever the pc term is nowadays) submissive, but to be honest, I don't see skin tones anymore.

Creole is not the same as African-American. While they do have African-American ancestry, they are a group of people with their own culture and customs. Most persons hailing from New Orleans are aware of this.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 9:10:00 AM

porcelaine

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mons

greetings to all

i guess i am a racist to black men. i did not start out this way i adore black men i wanted always someone as smart as my father and strong someone who did not drink but i ran into someone who beat me each time he could oh i wrote this before but he raped me so many times i did not know what to do. he was large there very large i was in pain i ran away to ca i never told my family being light he hit places where no one could see.

i was abuse by my brother my father was oh well crazy. all the black man who i care for abuse me the last was my child father. i tried to date black me but i was so scared and i know they are not all like but i have this fear of someone hurting me so i do not trust anyone male who is black ,
the one person i love was white and my family made me leave him to go with the beater so well that was it
i found i have always like white males as someone said the color and tone is so sexy.
i am treat so much better when i date white male they adore black woman i do not know why someone said we know how to take care of our men and we do not run around loooking for careers we do but in a ways where we still take care of our men. oh yes we can cook lol.

so now i come to know whie males are my choice as slaves submissive they are so sweet and funny anyone can adore me but they do it is a way that is so special. but white me it is said are the best oral sex givers and it is true vblack woman when we get together we speak of this so much lol
so that is why i date only white males i would never date a black man i do not find them sexula attractive at all

mons

First of all, to each his own. If you sincerely feel you are racist I have no desire to argue that point. However, I will say this. No particular race is better than the other. Generalizations exist which have been proven incorrect time and time again. It would seem that your experiences, while bad are partially your responsibility as well. While we cannot control the events that occur while underaged, we do have a say in our lives when we're adults. I don't sincerely think one race of men are preying upon you. Perhaps you have made poor choices that resulted in the abuse you speak of in your relationships. Whatever the truth may be it is yours to discover.

Dating outside of one's race does not provide a guarantee for better treatment or a cure all for what ills. You still carry the same person and baggage into the new pairing that you took into the last.

porcelaine

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 9:10:56 AM

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Though some Doms tend to be drawn to that "old south" dynamic, that really isn't my draw.

I wonder if those Doms request that their subs call them "Master", or "Massah".

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 9:14:39 AM

Phoenixandnika

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

I'm using the fast reply option.

From my perspective, specifically seeking out only one race is a bit strange, and in many ways I find people that only seek out blacks (but are of another race) downright creepy. I'm black, when I was single I talked to white dominants who were pretty much only interested in me because I happened to be black and I can't say I found it anything other than creepy. I wish I could be really nice and openminded and say everyone's choices are great, but thats not how I feel about *intentionally seeking someone of a different race than your own.*

There are ALOT of reasons people choose to be involved with specific races. Though I personally don't agree with most I find some very valid. Being in a bi-racial relationship comes with alot social stigma at times and often times the consequences are not simply on the adults who make the choices but the children that may come into situation.

On the flip side though I see alot of hypocrocy on this subject. How many times have people been called racists or bigots because the choose not to date outside of their race?

Now to the OPs question.
When I was in California I had the pleasure of training a african-american submissive. I think for "white dominates" who take a african-american submissive or slave that they encounter alot of stigma simply due to history and societies views. I know for me, he was simply a beautiful man and a great submissive not because of his skin color, though I am sure his history, his life made him that man it was not the defining factor for me. Truth be told until I feel in love with my best friend who is now my Master I had a sted fast rule that I did not get involved with "white men" . *shrugs*

I think it boils down to personal preference. We all have them. Some men like women who are no later than a size 2, others like women with no smaller than a DD cup, while some men want their women to be BBW, some like women with short hair, some with long, some women like their men in dresses, some like them have perfect abs, some like them bald, while others like them to have hair all over. To me prefering one race over another is no different and I don't beleive that alone makes you a racist.

< Message edited by Phoenixandnika -- 9/8/2006 9:19:10 AM >

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 9:33:46 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wildfleurs

I'm using the fast reply option.

From my perspective, specifically seeking out only one race is a bit strange, and in many ways I find people that only seek out blacks (but are of another race) downright creepy. I'm black, when I was single I talked to white dominants who were pretty much only interested in me because I happened to be black and I can't say I found it anything other than creepy. I wish I could be really nice and openminded and say everyone's choices are great, but thats not how I feel about *intentionally seeking someone of a different race than your own.*

My owner is white, but I didn't pick him because of that and he definitely didn't pick me (or have any particular interest in me) because I'm black. I'd love him if he were purple. Its one part of who we are and it certainly affects who we are and we have interesting discussions on issues of race, but neither of us has a particular fetish for racial groups or is remotely into race play (which I find fairly distasteful).

C~

I'm white and female and have recently decided I want a male Russian slave. I am seeking someone specifically because of their race. Is that weird?
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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 10:05:18 AM

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I'm white and female and have recently decided I want a male Russian slave. I am seeking someone specifically because of their race. Is that weird?
Akasha

I think that Wildfleurs hit the mark completely.................at least in her realm of experience. Most white women that I've known to date EXCLUSIVELY on the chocolate side of the spectrum tend to be emotionally unstable, non-contraception-usin' bastard factories. Having a preference isn't where the problem lies, but excluding all other races because of a solidified notion IS kind of weird.

Don't get me wrong, but aren't most Russian men also of Caucasian descent? Maybe I shouldn't be asking that question, for fear of receiving a lecture on the nuances of Miriam-Webster's definition of "race."

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 10:15:52 AM

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quote:

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Having a preference isn't where the problem lies, but excluding all other races because of a solidified notion is kind of weird.

So let me let me get this straignt because someone chooses and desires a specific race for a partner (what ever their specific roles are) is weird?

Is a white man wanting a white submissive/wife weird?

Is a black man wanting a black woman as a submissive/wife weird?

Is a native american man wanting to a native american submissive/wife weird?

Do you think that someone is weird if they choose not have bi-racial children?

For the record I think we each exclude people for alot of reasons, for some race is one of them.

I look at the world we live in and I see enough intolerance for our lifestyle choices, and that is what this is a personal choice that to have other lifestylers judge us for those choices is truly sad. If we can not be tolerant of the lifestyle choices others within our own group make how can we honestly expect those outside of our circle to show tolerance?

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 10:17:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phoenixandnika

quote:

ORIGINAL: TreSwank

Having a preference isn't where the problem lies, but excluding all other races because of a solidified notion is kind of weird.

So let me let me get this straignt because someone chooses and desires a specific race for a partner (what ever their specific roles are) is weird?

Is a white man wanting a white submissive/wife weird?

Is a black man wanting a black woman as a submissive/wife weird?

Is a native american man wanting to a native american submissive/wife weird?

Do you think that someone is weird if they choose not have bi-racial children?

For the record I think we each exclude people for alot of reasons, for some race is one of them.

I look at the world we live in and I see enough intolerance for our lifestyle choices, and that is what this is a personal choice that to have other lifestylers judge us for those choices is truly sad. If we can not be tolerant of the lifestyle choices others within our own group make how can we honestly expect those outside of our circle to show tolerance?

Proof that no matter how carefully you attempt to word something.................somebody, somewhere will take it out of context and misconstrue it. Let's take my original statement, and dissect it, for the sake of making more sense to the CollarMe public.

"Having a preference isn't where the problem lies, but excluding all other races because of a solidified notion is kind of weird."

Now, using myself as an example - I dig 30-something white chicks with ebony asses. I'll even go as far as to give this group of coveted gals "preferred screwin' status."
  If I were to meet someone of a different race that really set off the fire down below, but excluded her because of a pre-conceived ideal, that would make me a big weirdo.

               "Is a black man wanting a black woman "               " weird?"

  Once again, let me turn to my original statement. "Having a preference isn't where the problem lies, but excluding all other races because of a pre-conceived notion is kind of weird."

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 11:21:59 AM

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You would think that people who live this lifestyle would be more open-minded than we are. How often we forget that because of location, our jobs and many other factors in our life, we are given a certain pool of people that we socialize with. Even though we now have the internet, how often do we meet our friends from far away? That being said, I don't believe that most people, not all , "choose" to prefer one color to another. I believe a lot lies in where we live, who and what we are exposed to.For myself, I tend to date people based on a whole, vanilla and d/s interests. I am asked many times which is my preference. I would have to say that many would argue that I prefer a white dom over a black one. It's not because I solely date one, but because of the frequency I am in interaction with the other and also because of my vanilla interests which are not commonly shared with many black men that I come in contact with. I am open to anyone if we are a good match based on many interests and goals. I also agree that it is a little weird to completely exclude someone because of the color of their skin. On the flip side of that, I think people can sometimes be a little hesitant to strike up a conversation with people of another color because we fear that they will not overlook preconceived generalizations. While it is not my kink to submit to someone caucasian because I am looking for a "massah", it could very well be the next person's. I would not judge that person because it works for those two people involved. I happen to think variety is the spice of life, and differences are what make life interesting.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 11:54:12 AM

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Most white women that I've known to date EXCLUSIVELY on the chocolate side of the spectrum tend to be emotionally unstable, non-contraception-usin' bastard factories.

What a terrible place it must be in your corner of the world where white fems to black males are as you described. I am a white fem sub to a black male Dom, but we have no children together. I have some with my ex-husband, who by the way was of Asian/East Indian descent. I have no problem with people being drawn to a particular race or ethnicity, it's up to that person as to what flips their switch.

I have always been drawn to darker skinned men, because I am so pale. I love the contrast. It's sexy to see hands entertwined, legs, arms, whatever and see how the light and dark stand apart from each other. To me, it's aestetically pleasing to my eyes. No one should be made to feel bad for the thing that makes them take a second or third glance. There are many people who have written to me just because they have a "thing" for redheads. I don't make them feel bad for that, it's their preference.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/8/2006 12:08:51 PM

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Edited: I put this in the wrong forum.

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