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LadyHugs -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/8/2006 4:01:38 PM)

Dear ThickLadyJane, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eye, I see civilization created by individuals much like a puzzle.  Everybody has a piece in civilization, in their own time and place, creating history be it private or public.  Each person has their choice in how they participate in history but, it starts by living today as to make tomorrow history.  It is gender neutral, sex neutral, race and religion neutral.  Being unique makes civilization history so unpredictable in some ways.
 
That said, as far as with any society groups/civilization, you will have extremes. 
 
And, I will add to the post of the fine gentleman, that grandmothers would be the ones who determine when to go to war.  Frankly, I give them a paddle and spank those who want to have an over sized sandbox fight.  Better yet, strip those who wish to start wars naked and let them duke it out in a match.  That is the only way things are even.  As one general said, I cannot remember which though; said that young men fight wars old men start.
 
Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing the WHIP party restart and get a bunch of good dominants in there-- We'll really 'whip' things into shape. [Smiling with a LOT of humor]
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




DivaDuchess -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/8/2006 7:02:40 PM)

I would have to say that each gender has it's own way of dealing with things, from conflict to passion.  Neither one is better than the other, just different.




MistressMelissa -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/9/2006 11:46:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThickLadyJane

This is the question e-mailed to me by a slave:

I find myself very interested in the idea of a female run society. Do you think are women naturally superior to men? Would the world be a better place if women were in control instead of men?


I just tell them I believe in my own superiority and world domination is over rated.




MistressMelissa -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/9/2006 11:51:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick
Society is not controlled by men. I dont know how people get this idea. Try reading this book for a start. www.rulymob.com


Now don't be ruining our little secret. We're doing just fine letting you all think you're in control. We have you right where we want you.




rick19 -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/10/2006 1:58:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

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ORIGINAL: WildnWicked

http://www.owk.cz/index.htm

There is a link that a person with his desires can check out.

My opinion is the same as yours.


hmm  I just took a peek..isn't this site a little bit........................................................................................ ok I guess I'm gonna be killed but..isn't this site a little bit stupid and/or extreme.........[&:][8|]



Nah,  the OWK is a business in the Czech Republic or something. I read on a message board that it is owned by men (talk about irony) and that it isn't doing to great financially...I would never dream of going there, but to each their own.




rick19 -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/10/2006 2:01:57 PM)

I agree, Lady Jane. I think there are Superior people. I don't subscribe to the whole one sex is better than the other ideology. Men and women both have their strong points.




LadyEllen -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/11/2006 10:46:01 AM)

OWK (Other World Kingdom) is a female run femdom business based in the Czech Republic. However it is not the run of the mill femdom business. It was set up not long after the fall of communism, when property was cheap and the OWK was formed around a large house/castle with its own large estate in the countryside. Although part of the territory of the Czech Republic, it operates as a Queendom within its bounds, with its own constitution, laws, courts etc, and its main "national income" if you will, come from female domination tourism and exported products.

It caters for a very wide range of tastes and activities, and yes some of them are extreme, but mostly its about wealthy westerners paying money to be treated according to their tastes, 24/7 for a week or two - everything from being a Lady's maid, pony boy, shackled prisoner through to punishment slave and a whole lot more besides. If you ever saw the movie "Westworld" its similar to that, but the Ladies are real rather than robots! Its also quite popular with Ladies who visit there either alone or with their slave. The UK FDS (FemDom Society) visits there every year during the summer, and a good time is apparently had by all - the UK FDS endorse it, so it cant be that bad!

Whilst the allegations of a downturn in business in more recent times are something I too have heard, I do have to say that I have never before heard the allegation that the OWK is owned by men.

Hope that helps folks
E




amayos -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/11/2006 8:53:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

quote:

ORIGINAL: WildnWicked

http://www.owk.cz/index.htm

There is a link that a person with his desires can check out.

My opinion is the same as yours.


hmm I just took a peek..isn't this site a little bit........................................................................................ ok I guess I'm gonna be killed but..isn't this site a little bit stupid and/or extreme.........[&:][8|]



Rayne,

Most certainly. All I see there are men being serviced by "dominant women" in latex or leather. While I'm not one who subscribes to the vision of a goddess-ruled world, I can be quite sure it would not look like the fantasy entertainment so often indulged.




MisPandora -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/13/2006 12:36:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amayos

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

quote:

ORIGINAL: WildnWicked

http://www.owk.cz/index.htm

There is a link that a person with his desires can check out.

My opinion is the same as yours.


hmm I just took a peek..isn't this site a little bit........................................................................................ ok I guess I'm gonna be killed but..isn't this site a little bit stupid and/or extreme.........[&:][8|]



Rayne,

Most certainly. All I see there are men being serviced by "dominant women" in latex or leather. While I'm not one who subscribes to the vision of a goddess-ruled world, I can be quite sure it would not look like the fantasy entertainment so often indulged.

It's commercial domination, so yes, there is a large amount of "service" that comes with a full-paid client.   The men are how they make their money....

However, OWK is also a place that hosts female dominants from abroad.  Many of them care to bring with them slaves, or have one or more assigned to them on their arrival for the duration of their stay.  Those men who attend a citizen do not get ANY attention (unless they fuck up) from the female slavers (staff) of the facility.




steffie -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 12:25:12 PM)

Robin Williams once said, "If women ran the world, there would be no more wars.  But every 28 days there would be a lot of very heated negotiations."

[:D]




Emperor1956 -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 12:54:43 PM)

This is actually in reply to a number of people on "Grandma's" being the only ones who could/should be able to initiate a war.

There is some fairly famous research done in the 1970s (I think -- I tried to find cites on the Web but was not successful) about the relationship between the willingness of an individual to initiate hostile action against an invading force and the presence of that individual's family.  Not surprisingly, the physically closer spouse and children were to the "subject", the less likely the subject was to start a war.  I also think that the studies showed that single, unattached males were more likely to initiate violence than married males (but I'm not sure about that conclusion).

So, if you want to limit initiating violence, having grandmother's "hold the key" might be just the ticket.

E.




DivaDuchess -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 12:56:39 PM)

Who in the world would wish to dominate this entire world??  That would be a bit beyond me.  Just a bit *lol*.




InchHighGuy -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 3:25:02 PM)

This is one that comes up time and time again.

Speaking for myself, I am not a Female supremacist, but I find the idea of it extremely "exciting". Therefore I can imagine that a lot of like-minded submissive men would probe Dommes for Their opinion on this because, frankly, it's "stimulating" if one of Them responds in the way you want Them to.

I'm sure there are some guys out there who actually believe in Female supremacy, because you'll find that people land all across the spectrum of beliefs.

I'd enjoy a Woman talking about it as though She believes it, playing with it as a concept and a game with me, and using it to control my mind. But if she actually believed it, deep down, then I'd be worried about such a bigotted world view.

:)




undergroundsea -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 8:10:03 PM)

Here is what I posted about this matter in a prior discussion.

For me it is relevant what one means by female supremacy; does the term suggest females are genetically or inherently superior to males, or does it suggest that females are given a superior status?

For the former, the question that comes to mind is what criteria is used to determine superiority. While I know men and women who consider females to be inherently superior, I see neither gender to be inherently superior.

Incidentally, I am a fan of synergy and feel that the whole is usually greater than the sum of the parts. I extend this idea to male and female energies and attributes, and to the question of whether society should be matriarchal or patriarchal.

I see the idea of a society where women are superior beings (such as The OWK) as an interesting fantasy to enact. I relate more to female supremacy per the second definition. I enjoy it as a type of BDSM interest (worshipful submission).

I am fascinated by psychology and like to think about the why's behind BDSM. I think female supremancy (or even dominant supremacy) may serve as a construct used to justify submission. I elaborate.

Before I knew what was BDSM and that there were others like me, I had only my fantasies. The fantasies were more powerful if they seemed realistic. To seem realistic, a fantasy had to address two questions: (1) why would someone treat me in the envisioned manner, and (2) how could I allow someone to treat me in that manner.

I think female supremacy is one of several constructs that help with the second idea; one submits to a given dominant because he sees the dominant to be a superior person; one submits to women because in his reality, women are superior beings to whom one must naturally submit.

Even when said to be held generally, in reality I think these views are applied to specific situations. That is, I expect that men who claim to believe in superiority of females only apply this idea to specific females and not to every single woman in the world.

I feel constructs such as this are comparatively more common in female-dominance/male-submission because this power dynamic clashes with roles traditionally assigned by society. I think this is one reason we see fetishes for Amazons, martial arts, giantesses, and uniforms. I think this idea may even present one of different types of motivations that drive a want for feminization (in this case, to escape the male identity and its traditional role).

Incidentally, I think our reality influences the constructs and possible answers for question number 2. Before I had discovered BDSM, my reality made a BDSM fantasy seem possible only if a person who seemed sadistic (to address question number 1) could somehow compel me (to address question number 2) to do her bidding. Having learned about the existence of BDSM and dommes, my reality has changed where voluntary submission and mutual power exchange seems a more realistic fantasy or scenario. Thus my fantasies and the need for constructs has changed over time.

Cheers,

Sea





lunamor -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 9:35:08 PM)

About the OWK:

I've just returned from my first visit there and it was wonderful! There were quite a few lifestyle Doms present (some pro, some not), and all had personal slaves with them. We had a great time getting to know each other, hanging out together, talking, playing, watching others play, relaxing, doing whatever we liked. It was a lovely experience to openly live as Dom and slave among others who enjoy the same kind of relationship, to publicly take my slave for a walk on a leash outside (on all fours!), to be pulled around in a sulky as he trotted me around the horse track, to lock him up together with another slave in an outdoor birdcage, to immediately put him in a pillory and paddle his ass when he needed it!

There is lots of space at the OWK, and every corner offers unlimited play possibilities, both indoors and outdoors. Lots of the Doms have been there several times, and they clearly love it. I want to return, too!

My advice: don't think of it only as a slave's wet dream: it's a Disneyland for Dom women... the "other" Magic Kingdom! :-D

Lunamor




sissifytoserve -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 9:43:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lunamor

About the OWK:

I've just returned from my first visit there and it was wonderful!


To hell with exploitation and slavery.

If they want to start their own Mini, Hitlerian woman dominanted 3rd reich....I want nothing to do with it.


Beating a man untill he is bleeding and can't walk is wonderful?


In America..thats called ASSAULT AND BATTERY....remember that if you come here.




Emperor1956 -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 10:08:01 PM)

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lunamor (about OWK):  I've just returned from my first visit there and it was wonderful!


Where, precisely, is it?

E.




lunamor -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 10:14:40 PM)

It's in the Czech Republic, not too far from Prague.

Lunamor




undergroundsea -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 10:37:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

Beating a man untill he is bleeding and can't walk is wonderful?


It is for some people, which I think is fine as long as it is risk aware consensual kink (RACK).

Cheers,

Sea




sissifytoserve -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/17/2006 10:39:37 PM)

I don't.

I call it evil.

Its also Assault.

If a woman did that to me.....well um..

I wont go into it here.




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