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MisPandora -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/18/2006 1:09:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

I don't.

I call it evil.

Its also Assault.

If a woman did that to me.....well um..

I wont go into it here.

If you want someone to accept your kink without judgement, it might be a wise move to start learning to be tolerant of other's and their kinks :-)



sissifytoserve -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/18/2006 3:05:35 AM)

I don't think I could ever learn to tolerate bloodying someone up leaving permenant scars...and make and ORGANIZATION out of it.

Thats NAZI like behavior...not a "kink".

...and...by legal definition....its assault.



MisPandora -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/18/2006 3:09:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

I don't think I could ever learn to tolerate bloodying someone up leaving permenant scars...and make and ORGANIZATION out of it.

Thats NAZI like behavior...not a "kink".

...and...by legal definition....its assault.

Then walk away.....it's that simple.



undergroundsea -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/18/2006 4:55:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

I don't.

I call it evil.

Its also Assault.

If a woman did that to me.....well um..

I wont go into it here.


That's great. So that means someone who enjoys heavy corporal play is not a compatible partner for you. If someone did beat you like that, it seems it would be non-consensual and your anger would be justified. However, I don't see why you would be similarly angry if another sub consensually or happily engaged in heavy corporal play.

During the Abu Gharib prison abuse scandal, some people were repulsed by feminine undergarments placed on the male prisoners. And it's not hard for me to imagine some macho men who would be offended by the idea of a woman putting female garments on a man. In my opinion, just as your kink to consensually wear feminine garments is fine, so is the kink of someone who enjoys being beaten hard and someone who enjoys giving a hard beating to a consenting person.

I initially thought you were disapproving another's kink. I now wonder whether it is instead that you equate a hard beating to a disregard for the sub, or otherwise think of OWK to represent a disregard for male subs. If so, I understand why you might be offended by a general disregard for male subs. However, I don't think that equivalence is valid.

To put yourself in place of subs who enjoy heavy beatings would be to put yourself in place of someone with different preferences and to evaluate this situation based on your preferences.

I have seen loving couples engage in intense, heavy beatings and do not see a heavy beating in itself to represent disregard.

Does OWK otherwise convey a sense of general disregard for male subs? I am unsure. I see OWK to be a place of fantasy fulfillment and alternative reality, much like the island in Exit to Eden, for dommes and subs who enjoy the idea of female supremacy. That the women there are seen dressed in fetish clothes tells me as much. I expect the attitudes are affected by this objective.

In that context a lower, unimportant status may indeed be sought by a male sub towards mental masochism, or to escape the barriers emotional attachment or regard can potentially create to hold back heavy SM activity otherwise sought. Until a person has a partner with whom they have grown enough to engage in heavy SM play despite strong emotional attachment, I think this anonymity of sorts (without emotional attachment) may be a pathway to achieve heavy SM for some people who crave it.

That is why I say live and let live and think it's fine if it's RACK.

Cheers,

Sea



MsKatHouston -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/18/2006 5:45:12 AM)

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Coming in late on this one...I am not a fem supremacist and also feel that there are people, regardless of gender who are more capable leaders.  There are women I would put in positions of power in society as well as men and there are Dominants and submissives alike who are capable of being in a responsible position of power within society.  There are definitely those of both gender (as well as orientation D/s) who have no business being in a position of power in a government or society. 

Re the OWK, sounds good to me if that's your thing.  If I had the money and inclination it might be fun to check it out.  I have known those who have gone and swear by it.  I have also known those who did not think it was that great an experience.  However, to each their own.  Take what you like, leave the rest.  If it's not your thing, then don't do it but for those who do, more power to ya.



LadyEllen -> RE: A question placed to me by a slave.... (9/20/2006 5:06:21 AM)

sissify - you seem to be under the impression that all that happens in the OWK is severe beatings by man hating femi-nazis? I think you need to do a reality Czech (bad pun).

Of course the Ladies who work there behave like that - but I will bet crowns to dollars that when they're with their fathers, brothers and their own subs they dont. Its an act they do well, in a specially constructed environment, and its all to cater for submissive men's fantasies in return for money, OK? If men didnt like it, they wouldnt return there so often! That they are inclined towards Femdom is obvious in that they choose to work there, but I do wonder if there are any truly man hating femi-nazis out there who would then choose to be around men all day and have to look after their welfare, even if giving them a severe beating, when they had the motive and opportunity to fulfill their femi-nazi agenda?

OWK caters for all sorts of Femdom tastes, and yes whilst some men go there to be severely beaten as you mention and receive that treatment willingly, this is not the case throughout. They are operating a commercial service, and so they offer as wide a range of tastes as possible to maximise their appeal in the market.

If nothing else, then administering such a beating to someone is also an offence in Czech law and if there were complaints, then I'm pretty damned sure that the Czech police would be in there sorting it out. And BTW, I own a business in Brno, and I'm a frequent visitor to the Czech Republic (though not to the OWK), so on that last count I know what I'm talking about.

I wonder if you have visited their website at all? There you will see that they cater for all tastes, including crossdressers as Ladies' personal maids. If that dont float your boat, given what else we've learned about you from your posts, then I dont know what will?
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