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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 6:24:48 AM

pandoravampire

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Personally, i love my mind fucked. Id be up for all of them suggested here. I dont qualify mind fucking as more or less bdsm, but can see that it wouldnt work on a one off. Trust and knowledge are required to get inside the head of whom your fucking.
So, has anyone got any more?

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 6:43:23 AM

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To be quite honest, the senario the tread started wrote aboute would not have worked on me. i would either have trused the Dom enoh to know he would never realy hurt me, or i would have made a mistake and gone to deep whit somone i did not trust, paniced, found a way to get looses and cuased havoc.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 8:25:09 AM

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 8:37:13 AM

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 8:54:09 AM

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Riot I can understand people being offended when they do not understand the psychology being mindfarking. It was said in a recent thread about it that it is a skill that should be listed on CollarMe like any other lifestyle skill/technique.

I remember a scene a Fem Dom did in NZ with a fem sub wanting fire play mindfarking ... she was blindfolded and tied to a chair ...funnily enough a chair I now own... she was told repeatedly that she was to be burned alive ...a kerosene soaked cloth was waved under her nose and as an assisting Fem Dom sprinkled water about her feet... she could feel each droplet and pleaded for her life to be spared ... a match was lit and she screamed. She lived and she cried ... and fell in love with her Mistress.

These things may not be your kink, you don't crave it, you don't need it ... but for some it is a very real need to have boundaries pushed in this way. Would an experienced Dominant do this and not keep safety, security and commonsense at the fore ... yes ... a dead sub is just that a dead one. ..no use to anyone but the worms.

But ask yourself, and anyone else offended by this thread ... what is a mindfark but pushing a limit/boundary? Some could say pushing a sub/slave to eat gherkins when he/she loathes them is a mindfark... pickled sub anyone?

Jasmyn

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 9:09:05 AM

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Darthbetta.... I really don't have to defend myself to you (and thanks to those who have) but as most here seem to realize there are many levels to D/s and BDSM. I don't judge another's kinks but I should feel free to offer an opinion. I have been mindfucked once in the past and I reacted the way that RiotGirl mentioned.... I simply shut off all feelings and went someplace safe in my mind and NO it wasn't subspace. No, he didn't 'follow though" with it but he tried pushing a very hard limit with me and I did not feel that I could ever trust him again. This is not a 'right' opinion or a 'wrong' opinion but it is MY opinion and will definitely be something to discuss with 'my' Dom.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 9:13:50 AM

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 9:19:38 AM

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 9:21:56 AM

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I agree Jasmyn, I began the other post on the art of mind phuck and I do agree it should be listed as a skill/technique.

One thing to remember this is between two consenting adults, not forced on anyone. It has to be your kink and actually for me, the trust grows more along with adoration. I would never undertake this kind of play with anyone I didnt truly believe had my physical and metal well being at heart. This is an act itself just as breath play there is a trust and a bond there.

Mind phuck is not just limited to feeling you may get physically hurt...it can also be used with a sense of abadonment....being blindfolded thinking that the Dom has left the room, all the while he is staring at you and smiling. It is all about making the mind perceive something other than what is real.

Everyone defines BDSM and all its many facets to fit their desires, needs and cravings. Some acts are more extreme than others. You will always have some that would rather sky dive than go fishing...it's all in what you enjoy.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 9:31:23 AM

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 11:11:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterPeterau

Hmm, hell I love this subject, I know a subbie that is so scared of Spiders, this person goes white just talking about them, ok, so here goes.

This is what I told the subbie girl I was going to do to her, this was after, she was cuffed, her legs and arms were bound, blind folded and naked. I used a number of ropes to make a good body harness, then used a pully to lift her up, and then down slowly into a large cardboard box, now the box did have many types of Australian Spiders inside of it, Red Backs, Daddy Long Legs, Wolf Spider's, Golden Orb, etc I used the Spiders only so far as to have them spin their webs inside this large cardboard box ( it was about the size that a Washing Machine would come in).

After the box had webs all over it's inside, I removed all the spiders, so that the webs were the only thing remaining, then the subbie girl was lowered very slowly into the box, feet first, she was not gagged, and was able to "safe Word " if required, Can still see her when she felt the first web on her toes and feet !!!

IF this has got any of you going, then I think I just got you with my mind fuck, because, I never did really carry this out, but I did use it as a Mind Fuck once she was Fully Bound, omg did it work !!!

I don't know about the sub in particular...but I'm deathly afraid of spiders too, and I can guarantee that had someone done anything similar to me I wouldn't have been able to safeword due to screaming and hyperventilating....and if possible I'd have been climbing the suspesion rope like Riddick in the Chronicals movie. *shudder* in the event it's just a mindfuck and not actually happening, I have a very vivid imagination, and I'd still have freaked out. I might not climb the walls or get loose, but I wouldn't have the same level of trust again b/c when he asks "don't you know I wouldn't really hurt you" I have to say no, b/c obviously he's willing to seriously scare me....so what else is he willing to do? <shrug> just me, but then I've never been accused of being at all edgy *chuckle*
I do however like the idea of faking a brand with a piece of meat, and ice for the subs skin...very evil!
take care,
Polgara

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 11:33:54 AM

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Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ...

Sorry, as much of a sadist that I am, I would never risk beth's trust with this type of play. Trust takes a long time to build and it's important to maintain. It's beautiful, strong, but fragile; sort of like the spider web in the last scenario. I know I am NOT a trusting person. I think that makes me less susceptible to mind fucks as well as less likely to initiate one.

But don't get me wrong - I love a good "mindfuck" as much as the next guy. They are very useful and often help to make a point. For example, back in the day - a business associate was attempting to 'fuck' me. In the days before caller ID and all the current technology, I called a funeral director and said he died unexpectedly. They sent a hearse and coroner over to his house at 3:00 AM to pick him up. Kind of made him aware of his mortality and greatly improved his business ethics.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 12:32:54 PM

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I agree LadyPolgara. I think messing with people's real phobias is just plain cruel and would cause a lack of trust. My daughter is also deathly afraid of spiders and cobwebs so i understand that one.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 12:41:06 PM

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As some of you may know, I am an avid collector of snakes.

I have had people that were terrified of snakes, and after some gentle prodding, they touched one of the snakes, and their fear is gone! I had a friend that for the longest time wouldn't even come to my house, we graduated to coming in, but I had to cover the enclosures, he is now a snake owner as well!

carolyn's aunt was one of them, she didn't like to even hear the word snake, but after a time she was past it.

When we come to visit, she is disappointed if we don't bring one with us.

Typically, we are afraid of things we don't understand, and once we do, our fears are eased.

Here is a photo of carolyn with a couple of the kids.....

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 1:57:35 PM

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Well, I gotta disagree.

Some phobias can be overcome. I don't think all of them can. I think it's cool to try to ease someone over their phobia because without it they're probably a better person. However, to confront/threaten someone with his/her phobia is not cool with me.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 3:17:16 PM

Tristan

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I agree with perverseangelic and riot girl completely on this one. The original scenario sounds very destructive to me. Ok, I understand a good MF can develop trust, but this one seems to be designed to do exactly the opposite.

Also, just because someone gives consent, doesn't mean one should do what ever he or she wants to their submissive. Many submissives will willingly give consent to acts that harm them mentally or physically because they crave their dominant's approval and attention. A good dominant will take responsibility for their submissive’s emotional and physical well being, and to do otherwise is pretty much immoral, wrong, or what ever else you want to call it. And, yeah, I think there are boundaries that should not be crossed even in a bdsm relationship between consenting adults. Consent is not an excuse to mentally or physically harm someone.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 3:30:31 PM

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To all-

For me- all this stuff is all about the Mindfuck, about finding that edge, that place of fear (?) too strong a word- anxiety? uncertainy, maybe.

I do this stuff for the connection, for that spark we can strike in those deep dark corners of our minds, the murky places were is, was, and never all come too close to parse.

Basic Mammalian thinking- escape fear/pain. you know fear/pain becaase you are weak/little. submit/bond to the big/strong to be safe from the pain/fear.

So fast forward a few million years. We are all strong, individual. We control the world, and have no fear.

But we miss that bonding.

So we find another, an other, and make them powerful. And when the other makes us hurt/fear, some little distant thing, deep in the back of our mind, leaps that gap of epochs, and that spark, that bond is there- and we are whole again.

I am so aware that this is only my take on this stuff, and that while it might offer an explaination for submission, it leaves dominants out in the cold. So far, however, it works for me.

Stay warm,
Lawrence

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 3:47:01 PM

nella

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If this sort of games is your thing, then fine, it has been done once to me, i am deadly afride of needels, and a frind of mine that is a hobby psycologist managed to get an upper hand and treathed to prick my finger, the feeling afterwards was good, fear tend to leve a good feeling afterwards.

But there is a difference here, for exmaple in the exmapel of the sub and the fire, there was no real risk to the sub, she might in the spur of the moment belive she wuld die, but there was no real risk to her. In the salt wanter and car battery senario, things could ahve gotten worng. That sort of electrical equipment is not suposed to have anything in a bathroom for a reason. It might be just me but i belive this is unresponsibel.

And i go sick and tires aboute hearing, oh you are not a good enoh sub bacouse you do not want this or that, or you belive this or that, you are only after Topping from below, a Bedroom Dom or Vanilla whit a kink, what do pepole know of what go on in other pepole emotions. i do not suck dick, do that make me less of a submissive? some might say that, all are so buisy pointing fingers and say you and you and you and for real and can fit this catagory and all others are fakes, and i am sick and tired of it. I wish pepole would be more interested in learing from others, than judging them.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 4:00:58 PM

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Another " mindfuck" I had recently is having my sub ( Whom trust me 110 % and I would NEVER put in a danger or harm's way) on a long road trip aske me to pull off at the next rest tstop to pee. I didn't. and played it ofas I completely forgot because I was toying with the radio trying to get reception..... We went a few more exits on the interstate, and she said " I really need to Pee".... I said "OK, next exit...... I PROMISE..." Little did she know that the NEXT exit was 54 miles....... UNTILL we passed a sign saying such 3 miles after the toll booth.
SHE freaked out....... saying she was going to piss the seat and pleaded with me to pull over so she could pee into the scrub brush and bushes. I said NO .. HOLD IT".....

She tantrumed and carried on and whined, but beared down for a few more miles...... then blurted out " I really AM going to pee the seat"...... I told her she bette not, because if she did she would regret it....

fast forward 1 more mile, I knew of an " UNLISTED " rest stop with a porta potty on it. She was ""oooo Ooo Ooo ing"... and she ran so fast to the John that I was laughing so hard, I minorly wet myself too ( we both had to piss baddly).

THIS IS THE FUN that there is to be had.

If your TRUST LEVEL is not constantly tested and "pushed" then we get stagnant and there is no spark in BDSM.. it just turns into rutine...
EXERCISE your mind, and the TRUST levels will never ever be broken, or give a partner reason to doubt you.

I absolutely adore my _Somnovi_... and she loves her Master also.

SSC ? right ? Tust, Love, and Tenderness.... I have all that, and I keep things very carefree and fun. MENTAL BONDAGE is far stronger than any rope, shackle, or chain will ever be.

If you do ot know your "partner" in a scene , or a persons reactions to a stimuli, then THAT PERSON IS NOT KNOWING WHAT IS GOING ON....

I for one am NOT an asshat, and to be judged as such based upon a topic is assinine.

Sorry for some gruffness, but I tend to call it as I see it.... Upon background information and more details of a person and what makes them tick.... :

hope this clarifies it.

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RE: Your BEST "mindfuck" as a scene is ? - 1/10/2005 4:16:08 PM

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My best mind fuck scene?

That's for me to know and no else to find out. What happens behind my closed doors stays behind my closed doors. How about you come down to Texas and find out what goes on in my neighborhood? Interesting profile, hope you are able to live up to it.

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