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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:09:41 PM

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Nope Synergy...he really is for real...perhaps a bit hard to take, but real. I'm aware of his clientele and although I won't divulge who or why it works for him...being out wouldn't affect it. Not all of us duck and cover.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:12:24 PM

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I am posting with this nick on this thread under direct instructions from my Lord.

This is a nick I had before I was owned by him.

As I am posting under this nick, I am also logged into my other nick on the same computer at the same time. Therefore any argument that being online at the same time proves that two different nicks are two different people is invalid.

Creating a nick for the purpose of slamming, flaming any individual or for the purpose of stating an unpopular opinion is simply childish.

Lastly, one can only judge other’s on these boards by their behaviors and words that they use here. However, claims of knowledge and experience that cannot be easily validated are taken with a grain of salt by this house.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:12:26 PM

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This has been a disappointing thread.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:23:16 PM

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You also need to learn to pay attention, Rae and i were on at the same time this morning, anticipating such a childish accusation he waited until he saw i was online to insure such accusations would not occur.

This arguement perked my interest. When kyra reminded me that she still had her own nick, I decided to do a test. Clearly anyone can have two nics signed in on the same computer at the same time. I even seen both nicks online at the same time.

My point is not to state one way or the other the truth or falsehood that exists here. But that simply a person is very capable to be dishonest and there is not direct way in an online situation to prove or disprove a person's claims. You either believe them or not.

either way... I have watched how various people have handled themselves in this thread and will be much less interested in what they have to say in the future because of it.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:27:22 PM

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If this person is who he says he is with the credentials he claims to have, personally speaking I would think that he would be more responsible handing out so-called diagnosis online. As someone with credentials of my own I would never toss them out there in order to strike out at someone that had never done me or mine any harm.. actually I would never use my credentials to harm anyone or hurt anyone.. I have to question the veracity of such claims as an academic. Perhaps I took a different ethics class then this individual. I will be contacting a former professor to see what exactly his violation of ethics are (if any)

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:28:26 PM

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lost in the shuffle were some pretty good definitions offered up by teamnoir on page 17. Unfortunately he's gonna perish along with the rest of us because his definitions aren't biased like those offered by the first camp.

Actually i took notice of teamnoirs definitions, commenting how much i liked them, not once, not twice but three times.

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I like yours as well teamnoir, especially the comments on the way some of the roles overlap, thank you for your contribution.

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Vote noted and thank you, i too liked a lot of teamnoir's definitions.

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I posted my definitions and ASKED everybody to post their own. I am glad you liked these from another poster, i like these but i liked several of the others as well. Thank you for adding your vote.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:28:52 PM

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either way... I have watched how various people have handled themselves in this thread and will be much less interested in what they have to say in the future because of it.

Ditto...this I have to agree with.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:43:39 PM

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either way... I have watched how various people have handled themselves in this thread and will be much less interested in what they have to say in the future because of it.

Ditto...this I have to agree with.

Hello A/all,

I teach a children's class which deals both with attacks against children by adults as well as bullying situations with their peers.

One way that people are bullied is with overt or covert threats, by the bully, of withdrawing approval or communications, as well as telling the bully "That is up
to you, but threatening me with "not being my friend anymore" (or, in this case, "I have a lessened opinion of certain posters on this board") will not make me change my mind."

It is fascinating to drill and do this in classes where we teach 5-8 year old kids to stand up for their own opinions despite our (the teachers) best attempts to
malign, embarrass, threaten, bribe, yell, whatever, at the student.

After a couple of runs through, most of the students get to a point where they simply laugh at the person trying to bully them. Of course, the bully in real life
usually gets angry or defensive or argumentative when people laugh at them,
so lesson #2 we teach the kids is how to control the urge to laugh at people.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:48:01 PM

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lmao

Knight pourquoi êtes vous riant, je réalise mon anglais n'est pas le monde meilleur car ce n'est pas ma langue maternelle, souvent deux fois avait dit elle a souhaité que nous pourrions message instantané chez la personne mais je me penser ai parlé assez tout simplement pour être compris.

Ainsi je vous répondrai se servant du langage de ma naissance pour une meilleure compréhension sur votre partie.

Bien que je conteste ce que vous aie été plein d'humour considérant votre réputation antérieure pour la pensée dirigée de niveau que votre attaque était sans garantie et unprovoked, deux fois fait aucune insulte à vous.

Car j'ai commenté plus tôt à votre animal de compagnie ou le protocole représente tous ou absents, c'est une chose déshonorante pour l'appliquer autre sage.

Your English was fine and easily understood no need to use french... thou I can appreciate you are more comfortable using language of your upbringing.

I have never concerned myself with my reputation and if anyone was shocked with my behavior.. then it is clear they had a rose colored view of me. I don't state things to maintain or aspire to a given reputation or image. If a person wishes to judge what I say based on their own perceptions of me that is their issue not mine.

Because I have not be directly provoked or attacked does not mean I can not take exception or even insulted by what another states. Because I have not be directly provoked or attacked does not mean that I can not speak my thoughts or opinions on an issue that offends my princples and values.

Besides the common ideal of dishonesty being a distasteful characteristic of a person. I also find prejudice and elitism to be qualities that are extremely distasteful to me. Seldom will I sit and watch such behaviors and not stand forward and speak against such ideas and behaviors. I hold no person over my own values and principles and those that think I shall are sure to be disappointed.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:56:17 PM

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One way that people are bullied is with overt or covert threats, by the bully, of withdrawing approval or communications, as well as telling the bully "That is up to you, but threatening me with "not being my friend anymore" (or, in this case, "I have a lessened opinion of certain posters on this board") will not make me change my mind."

One can only feel bullied in this manner if two things are in place

1 the person cares what the person thinks that is withdrawing approval or communication

2 the person withdrawing approval or communication is motivated to bully the other into a change of behavior

so... first... frankly.. I don't give a rats ass if any change or don't change their behavior except those that are significant to me. And those that are signficant to me are not bullied and manipulate to change their behaviors.

secondly, shits to be those that care what I think or feel if the feelings are not recipocal. Because you care.. doesn't mean I care. Also, because I care... doesn't mean you must care. It's just nice when it is recipocal.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 5:58:53 PM

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Oh my lol. I was going to comment but seeing as how this thread has become nothing more than a 'he said she said' kind of battle, I think I will just sit back and let it run its course

As a side note, this is just a general reply, not aimed at anyone.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 6:14:24 PM

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One can only feel bullied in this manner if two things are in place

1 the person cares what the person thinks that is withdrawing approval or communication

2 the person withdrawing approval or communication is motivated to bully the other into a change of behavior

so... first... frankly.. I don't give a rats ass if any change or don't change their behavior except those that are significant to me. And those that are signficant to me are not bullied and manipulate to change their behaviors.

secondly, shits to be those that care what I think or feel if the feelings are not recipocal. Because you care.. doesn't mean I care. Also, because I care... doesn't mean you must care. It's just nice when it is recipocal.

Hello A/all,

I completely agree with you, KnightofMists. What I suspected would happen when I read your post was that it would be jumped on by certain people as a means of creating divisiveness in a thread which defines the concept of Train Wreck.

I was just commenting to julia a few minutes ago how elegantly worded I found your post about elitism and dishonesty.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 6:21:04 PM

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i suppose you are sadly correct... honor is missing in so many areas. i also understand why so many are 'sick' of hearing the word thrown around like candy.

Btw... except for the soap opera this has become, i was truly interested in how others defined terms in WIITWD. i'll keep my eye open for a positive move in that direction.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 6:46:47 PM

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I completely agree with you, KnightofMists. What I suspected would happen when I read your post was that it would be jumped on by certain people as a means of creating divisiveness in a thread which defines the concept of Train Wreck.

If a person should wish to take my words in that manner, then I would have to suspect that my thoughts and opinions had mattered to them... which is too bad for them since it wasn't a recipocal relationship.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 8:05:25 PM

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I would think that a phone call that would definitively clear the matter up would be preferable to an accusation. Just me....I could be wrong.

I contacted the Psychiatric Unit at St. Michaels Hospital in Toronto and charmed the woman I spoke to about the person, who I described, that I had met in a coffee shop who was affiliated with them. They gave me a name. A number. The name of a psychiatric practice. Said he was a wonderful psychiatrist and they were thrilled to have him on staff.

But I got to thinking. Is the description correct? Is this some random individual that the person who described himself made up or read about? Since I did not actually believe the person was who they said they were, I wondered how some random stranger would react to being contacted by somebody who learned about them on the internet and called to ask them about BDSM protocol.

I had answered my own question about it with a minimum of effort, so I let it go as being unimportant to me.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 8:08:35 PM

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Rand is preachy, wordy, and....well....Randish. I could barely slug through Atlas Shrugged,and it is pretty much required reading for we Libertarians.

I agree it can be tough to get the message, but the message is so valuable that it's a worthwhile effort. You know, The Fountainhead was made into a movie as well.. Gregory Peck (not his best performance, but if you can discard that, the message is there as well). Masters looking for a role model could do a lot worse than Mr. Roark.. (if you can set aside the one, tiny, little explosion thingy. Hey, but no one is perfect, right?)

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 8:25:03 PM

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Rand is preachy, wordy, and....well....Randish. I could barely slug through Atlas Shrugged,and it is pretty much required reading for we Libertarians.

I agree it can be tough to get the message, but the message is so valuable that it's a worthwhile effort. You know, The Fountainhead was made into a movie as well.. Gregory Peck (not his best performance, but if you can discard that, the message is there as well). Masters looking for a role model could do a lot worse than Mr. Roark.. (if you can set aside the one, tiny, little explosion thingy. Hey, but no one is perfect, right?)

Celeste

That was Gary Cooper.

No wonder! I like Gregory Peck so much better. ::laughs:: Maybe I should rewatch the movie?

Nah, I'll just read the book again. ;)

Thanks for the correction.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 8:41:54 PM

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Both Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead are quite interesting, the former I found jarring, in terms of some of the ideas.

And you're welcome, Celeste. Have a good night.

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 8:48:25 PM

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Never saw the Fountainhead, but I love both Gary Cooper AND Gregory Peck (although I have to admit I like Gregory better). Ahh, those were the days of "real" actors!

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RE: BDSM Definitions? - 10/3/2006 8:52:44 PM

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Little girl, first please learn to spell; second if you wish to check my "identity" feel free to meet me at Ben Wick's Pub on Parliament Street in Toronto on the third Tuesday of the month, ask to be seated with the DSSG group. I will be the very tall silver haired gent with the nun tattooed down my arm.

Are all Canadian psychiatwists so vewy vewy sewious?

Every time someone talks like that, I picture Elmer Fudd fucking Barbara Walters.

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