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SirDiscipliner69 -> Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 3:30:49 AM)

Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

Dom: I looked at the flowers and they have been trod on this morning.
sub: I walked thru them not trod. Thank you for the spanking last night.

Dom: I do not want you trod or walk thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

Dom: I looked at the flowers and they have been trod or walked thru this morning.
sub: I did not trod or walk the the flowers. I tip toed thru the flowers. Thank you for the spanking last night.

Dom: I do not want you trod, walk or tip toe thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.

Dom: I looked at the flowers and they have been trod, walked or tip toed thru this morning.
sub: I did not trod, walk or tip toed thru the flowers. I skipped thru the flowers. Thank you for the spanking last night.

Dom: Enough is enough.
sub: I like to be spanked.

What has happened here with the semantical trodding?

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mstrjx -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 3:51:07 AM)

One of 3 (or more) things is happening here.

1)  You're illustrating that 'punishment' should not be enjoyed, or else it will continue the behavior.

2)  You're illustrating that a fundamental lack of communication, either given or received, will be the downfall of a relationship

-or-

3)  You're being even more obtuse than I can consider, and I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Jeff




Bearlee -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 3:59:49 AM)

 
Wow...we're two for two; are you going for more?




bandit25 -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 4:03:21 AM)

I vote for number three.  SirDiscipliner69, perhaps, you may want to talk to a different sub.  One that can say more than that she likes to be spanked?




An -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 4:11:19 AM)

Maybe I'm being dense, but I took it to be a hypothetical situation that has a lesson in it, for both parties.




pleazuredpain -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 5:29:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: An

Maybe I'm being dense, but I took it to be a hypothetical situation that has a lesson in it, for both parties.


I have to agree. 




juliaoceania -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 6:40:48 AM)

I do not know, I do not have enough information about either people in this dynamic... do they enjoy idiotic conversations?




swtsouthernsub -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 7:05:42 AM)

my thinking is how dare anyone disrespect by tip toeing trodding  or walking through a beautiful flower garden
and consiquences  should be expected  especially after one has asked other wise.  my question would simply be  may i pick a bouquet to enjoy  or can i just sit here and enjoy this garden   and please may i have a spanking 




juliaoceania -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 7:29:41 AM)

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my question would simply be  may i pick a bouquet to enjoy  or can i just sit here and enjoy this garden   and please may i have a spanking 


You know, this is a very very valid point, why not just even smell the flowers?




swtsouthernsub -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 7:39:22 AM)

so many people forget to take the time to just sit and enjoy such beauty of a flourishing garden   or take the time to smell the flowers they tend to often to be in to big of  a rush so they  trod or walk thru  life not experiencing the simplier things  in life  or refusing to listen to others and what is importatnt them  we tend to only think of our own selfish wants and desires   just my little input on how  i view most of the world today  




Mavis -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 7:50:12 AM)

like a good lawyer/subbie... i have to ask..  what kind of flowers?  And are there certain hours i may trod on flowers?  And..  what kind of spank?  OTK?  i like that..  and paddles..




swtsouthernsub -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 8:07:52 AM)

its a garden variety roses, daffadils gladolious, hybiscus,rose moss butterfly bushes, zinnias, red eye susans , and theres never a good time to trod thru any garden just take the time to enjoy such a garden  and spanking would be up to the giver myself perfer a good thick wooden paddle myself




MsKatHouston -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 8:17:02 AM)

(quick reply)

crikey.

I state up front that not only should my orders be obeyed but the intent of them.  If I had to explain to a submissive that "don't trod on the flowers" meant I wanted my damn flowers intact and not skipped on, run on, jumped on, etc. then that person is not someone who will do well with me.  Purposely disobeying like that would not be tolerated.  Answering in such an idiotic, sarcastic manner would also not be tolerated.  Getting a spanking would surely not happen.

Who is the dom in this scenario?  When will the dom catch a clue that the spanking "punishment" is not exactly working?  Punishing by giving the sub exactly what she wants is not punishment at all and only encourages bad behavior and gives the wrong impression...unless of course, the dynamic is that you care not about the flowers and enjoy the play punishment stuff and a sammy sub. 

quote:

What has happened here with the semantical trodding


The power has shifted (if it ever was there to begin with) to the submissive.






Frank01 -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 8:20:50 AM)

1. If you do punishment, never make it enjoyable, make it work.

2. Be crystal clear in your communications and expectations.

3. Never partner with the mentally retarded-and expect sterling performance.




wild1cfl -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 8:48:32 AM)

If I had a submissive who enjoyed spankings such as this (and I have) I would not have given them one after the first time they "walked, trod, tiptoed thru the flowers. They would have gotten a punishment for being in the flowers period and another punishment for being such a smart ass to me about it. These punishments definitely would have been something that they do not like. I will not put up with such behavior from a submissive.
I do not mind a little teasing with a submissive, but if he/she has been given a directive and tries to use semantics to get around and also shows such disrespect for what I have asked then they deserve to be punished.




Iskander -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 9:08:07 AM)

Aside from the incorrect use of 'trod' you mean?

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Mavis -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 9:08:37 AM)

 
So what W/we have here is a Dom who changes the rules to ensure sub always succeeds.  He wants to spank?  or He wants sub to always get what she wants, in either case, the setting is designed so he never has to deny either Himself or her.

Most likely if this happened at my house, Master would have changed the rule ONCE.  To I'll only spank you when you walk in the flowers.  then He would go out and dig up the whole flower bed.   He would go without the flowers, and go without the spanking, and go without the happy bottom, for the sole purpose of maintaining His position and authority.  If That didn't cure all, He would go without the sub.  i like that.  Actually, i need that.




juliaoceania -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 9:30:41 AM)

As a submissive that adores wooden spoons used on her backside I have to say Daddy never rewards bad behavior with a treat (although I am so perfect that I deserved to be spanked all the time[sm=flying.gif], I have ocean front property to sell ya too)




sophia37 -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 2:07:01 PM)

What just happened here? You just discovered your sub is Tiny Tim! 




Missokyst -> RE: Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you. (9/29/2006 5:02:30 PM)

Definitely an odd duck. 
As a parent of four, I learned how to control my kids before they ventured out into society.
Kids being kids always tried to find a way around my decisions, but of course that would never work.
I would see through any potential issues long before they thought of them.   am a dom of a parent.

There should be a school for this..
Kyst

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDiscipliner69

Dom: I do not want you trod thru the flowers. If you do not I will reward you by spanking you.
sub: Ok. I like to be spanked.




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