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RiotGirl -> Head (10/12/2006 8:41:09 PM)

i dunno why i havent asked this sooner.  I'm trying to figure out how to work past this issue....   i have notice that after a certian period of time, while im giving head, my jaw starts to ache, im unable to use "suction" and then eventually my lips start to go numb.   Which wouldnt matter other then the fact that i'm still in the process and WELL that makes it so totally impossible to do anything properly.  If i cant add suction.. and my jaw is aching so bad.. and then i cant feel my lips (which means GOD knows where my teeth are)....

Honestly it gets to the point of doing a really shitty job cos my mouth isnt working.  And i know there are millions of other ways to go about it - but those million of other ways arent always wanted, ya know? 

i've tried a million different things.  Like holding my breathe to apply some sort of suction and using the force in my throat..

Anyone run into this problem (obviously i am sure there are some otherwise i wouldnt bother posting the question) and what the heck do you do about it? 



Sinergy -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 8:46:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

i dunno why i havent asked this sooner.  I'm trying to figure out how to work past this issue....   i have notice that after a certian period of time, while im giving head, my jaw starts to ache, im unable to use "suction" and then eventually my lips start to go numb.   Which wouldnt matter other then the fact that i'm still in the process and WELL that makes it so totally impossible to do anything properly.  If i cant add suction.. and my jaw is aching so bad.. and then i cant feel my lips (which means GOD knows where my teeth are)....

Honestly it gets to the point of doing a really shitty job cos my mouth isnt working.  And i know there are millions of other ways to go about it - but those million of other ways arent always wanted, ya know? 

i've tried a million different things.  Like holding my breathe to apply some sort of suction and using the force in my throat..

Anyone run into this problem (obviously i am sure there are some otherwise i wouldnt bother posting the question) and what the heck do you do about it? 



This is just me, and I could be wrong, but the best blow jobs I have ever received had a lot of hand action.  I dont care how much public speaking experience you have, but the suction of a woman's lips are nothing compared to her kung-fu action grip helping things out.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you.

Sinergy



crouchingtigress -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 8:48:01 PM)

Using your hands when you get tired works nicely with lots of saliva...
 
Bjs are not easy, lots of coordination,  awkward body movements,  loosing and finding rhythm and then there is always the question of where to put your teeth so that they are out of the way...and lets not forget how exhausting they can be....
 
i wonder if folks go through such mental and physical gymnastics when eating pussy?



juliaoceania -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 8:52:06 PM)

I have TMJ and I had corrective surgery for this problem. It sounds to me like this could be the trouble for you and you should go to an oral surgeon or dentist so they can refer you to the proper doctor to treat this. Here is a link and a listing of symptoms (numbness is a big one)


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001227.htm

The temporomandibular joints (TMJs) connect your lower jaw to your skull. There are two matching joints -- one on each side of your head, located just in front of your ears. The abbreviation "TMJ" literally refers to the joint but is often used to refer to any disorders or symptoms of this region. Such problems include popping sounds in the jaw, inability to fully open the mouth, jaw pain, headaches, earaches, toothaches, and various other types of facial pain.


a maxilliofacial surgeon may need to repair the damage to your jaw joints if you do not get proper treatment






LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 8:52:16 PM)

Reposted:
Frankly, due to jaw problems and small mouth, I use my mouth only 30% of the time doing oral sex.

My generic method is to start with my hands- massage the cock, scratch the balls a bit, get the blood flowing so you can start to sense when it's getting hard.

Then I use my mouth to lick it gently, get it more sensitized and a bit wet.  This is about the only time I put my mouth into the cock- when it's still only half hard and can fit easily, and I can roll my tongue around it inside.

After that, I keep my mouth almost completely on the head, which is the most sensitive, just licking and keeping saliva flowing so that my hands, which are doing all of the shaft work by stroking regularly. The fingers cover more area and are more manipulative than the tongue and you can keep the pace going much better than with your mouth alone.

So, teeth aren't a problem at all.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_607133/mpage_1/key_oral%252Csex/tm.htm#607324
Servicing

http://www.collarchat.com/m_594093/mpage_1/key_mouth/tm.htm#594235
Looking for some help here

http://www.collarchat.com/m_519839/mpage_1/key_oral%252Csex/tm.htm#519948
Deep Throating Issues

http://www.collarchat.com/m_102139/mpage_1/key_oral%252Csex/tm.htm#102249
blowing without pain

http://www.collarchat.com/m_438896/mpage_1/key_small%252Cmouth/tm.htm#438919
blowjobs with as little teeth as possible?




RiotGirl -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 9:33:34 PM)

Heh - thanks guys

but um.. well - its not like i get "free reign"  I cant just stay at the head when my mouth is hurting and numb or can i use alot more hand work.  (trust me i've tried)  This is prolly WAY too much tmi - but there is a specific pattern and granted i vary from it at times.....  and sometimes i use a variety of different hand movements.... 

but i'm not supposed too. 

If i were to do it your way Em - i'd be told to stop playing with it.  Plus um, i dont have to get it hard anyways - it comes like that.  (bought in a store near you!)

just not excatly sure how to get past this barrier.

edit to add - ah well i do have funny noises when i open or move my jaw side ways.  Like i can hear the bones rubbing against each other.  And my neck muscles and shoulders are prolly past strained.  Moving my head i can feel the tightness in my neck mucles no matter which way i move them and my shoulders literally do not move up and down. 

And i know i should get to a chiropractor but the last time one cracked my neck, my neck like jumped or something - i dunno but it scared him enough that he hugged me for god knows how long and then refused to touch the area again. 

so all pain and numbing included - how do i break past that?



juliaoceania -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 9:53:55 PM)

The pain from the joints in your jaws can be felt in your neck (I know..smiles) and it is because the nerves are all tied together. It should not hurt that badly to give a blowjob, and if it does it could easily be TMJ, I would bring it up to your dentist next visit, it could very well be that you are doing damage everytime you give your master  a hummer, and that is not a good thing and I am certain he would want his property to take good care of her mouth so he can use it for years to come. My problem was so bad they told me I may one day not be able to open my mouth without surgery (and yes, many people were disappointed I had it[:D]).



RiotGirl -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 10:04:23 PM)

LOL  Julia  so you're basically telling me that my neck pain is from my jaw????  The back of my neck.. the sides of my neck.. all that tightness and stiffness and ect??

It could be just the fact that i ripped a neck muscle 8 or 9 years ago and the only way i took care of it was be being careful on how i moved my head.  gawd that shit was painful (bastards!) Course i did forget sometimes and turn my head too fast to look in a certian direction and then bam.....

<shrugs>  i was 18 and i figured i would heal, plus i didnt know i had ripped a muscle.  Which is pretty much where i figured i got all the neck problems from. 

BUT - i'm due for the dentist anyways so i'll check it out.  Thanks for the heads up.  Twould be nice to find a cure


OH - hey, how do you excatly tell the dentist?  I cant excatly say - "when i give a bj, i end up in alot of pain"  nor can i say " and i went to this bdsm website and they mentioned tmj"

so how do others notice this stuff?



juliaoceania -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 10:14:26 PM)

I would tell my dentist that I have jaw pain and popping joints, and it sounds as though your mouth does not open all the way, because that is why you lose suction... I have great suction since my surgery[:D]



RiotGirl -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 10:35:59 PM)

whaaaa?  jaw not open all the way - bad suction? 

hehehehehe - i thought a jaw had to be shut (as close as possible) for suction.  Suction is like all in the lips and the "sucking" aye??  i am sooooooo confused.  What do you mean jaw open and suction?  Jaw pain and popping - okay works for me.  Well i might throw in grating cos thats what it sounds like when i move it around.

ya know - you could have something here.  (cos well i'm playing with my mouth) And opening to what i consider max, is abit of a strain but if i add more force i can make it go lower.  But i've got to apply that extra force to get it to open past what i consider open.  (which honestly is not what i would consider comfortable)

how fascinating.  Thank you much Julia for the info....... it would of NEVER occured me.  Hell i didnt even know it exsisted!!!!  mucho mucho gracias  Where the heck did you learn this stuff?



juliaoceania -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 10:53:33 PM)

suction happens in the throat, baby!

I learned it through having a lot of jaw trouble



subfever -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 11:09:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

This is just me, and I could be wrong, but the best blow jobs I have ever received had a lot of hand action.  I dont care how much public speaking experience you have, but the suction of a woman's lips are nothing compared to her kung-fu action grip helping things out.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you.

Sinergy


Yeah, well... most blow jobs I've had really sucked... [;)]



becca333 -> RE: Head (10/12/2006 11:26:34 PM)

What position are you in when you do this?  Are you holding your head at an unusual angle?  Maybe a change in position would help.  Have you tried kneeling over him as he lays on his back so that your head is bending forward (in relation to your body) rather than leaning back?

And have you told him about this?  I don't think he'd want to keep on taking his own pleasure at the cost of possibly permanent physical damage to you. 



MasterNdorei -> RE: Head (10/13/2006 12:32:58 AM)

Changing positions may help. Also explaining what is happening, so that the addition of your hands may be allowed in pleasing Him. i understand what you have said about not teasing or playing at your "task", but some hand manuevers can be quite an asset.

If the problem with your jaw is serious it may be some time before you are back to your former abilities. You may want to consider alternatives.

i wish you well~*
Master's dorei



ScooterTrash -> RE: Head (10/13/2006 1:19:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress
i wonder if folks go through such mental and physical gymnastics when eating pussy?
Similar problems...but if you just dive into your work, you can lick it....lol.



needstheOne -> RE: Head (10/13/2006 4:16:26 AM)

As a slave I use to get a rare treat. It was a bj and the only way she would do it was for me to be doing her at the same time. She never used her hands and I had the golden rule to remember don't come in my mouth. She could do it for a long time that way without any problems. I don't know if this is available to you.



Dnomyar -> RE: Head (10/13/2006 4:54:46 AM)

Tigress. Take out your teeth and put them in a glass on the night stand.



Dnomyar -> RE: Head (10/13/2006 4:57:16 AM)

Riot be glad he dosen t use viagra and stay hard for more than 4 hours.



Mavis -> RE: Head (10/13/2006 5:12:50 AM)

ok, this is a naughty off-sides.  this reminds me of the joke... not sure how well it translates to written form:

"cocksuckers cramp"    ::::  makes "O" with mouth :::  

do you get it?
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"how often?"



zumala -> RE: Head (10/13/2006 5:49:13 AM)

You're not the only one that experiences difficulty with that particular activity, Riot.  I get headaches and jawaches fairly frequently, can't open my jaws all the way, and get to listen to them crack everytime I yawn.  I've had my jaw locked shut for a week (not fun) and stuck wrenched open for about a day (holy hell did THAT hurt!).  There are days when I just have to tell pup "I can't." when he wants a bj, because there will literally be danger of fucking my jaw up.  Fortunately, he understands and doesn't push the issue.
 
I'd agree with the others.  If you can afford it (I sure as hell can't) you should see about having it corrected.  If you have to have surgery, be very selective about who does the work.  I've heard that a screw up can leave part of your face numb and hanging.  Nerve damage.  Yet I've also heard from folks that were glad they did it and feel so much better.
 
So... I guess it's up to the individual to decide which is the lesser of two evils.
 
zuma



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