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Mercnbeth -> RE: Smoking (2/8/2005 11:50:21 AM)
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I doubt every doctor is a left wing radical spewing baloney
No, as the commercials say it's usually "4 out of 5".
Okay, and now for something completely different - FACTS, STUDIES, and non-admissible "Anecdotal" comments/information.
First a word from Albert Einstein....Einstein, was very passionate about his pipe smoking. During one lecture, he ran out of pipe tobacco and borrowed some cigarettes from his students so he could crumple the tobacco into his pipe. "Gentlemen," he said, "I believe we've made a great discovery!" He later decided that his conclusion was premature.
His quote; "As Klein, the Cornell professor, notes, there is a direct link between freedom and the right to smoke. He writes: "Like other tyrants such as Louis XIV, Napoleon, and Hitler, James I despised smoking and demonized tobacco. The relation between tyranny and the repression of the right to grow, sell, use, or smoke tobacco can be seen most clearly in the way movements of liberation, revolutions both political and cultural, have always placed those rights at the center of their political demands. The history of the struggle against tyrants has been frequently inseparable from that of the struggle on behalf of the freedom to smoke."
Comment 'on-point'...
When it comes to those carrying out the current war on smokers, no other group matches their tactics, approaches and arguments as well as the Nazis. It’s a damn near perfect fit. The anti-smokers, of course, bristle at the comparison, quickly pointing out that they are not rounding up smokers and sending them to death camps. Hitler never did that to smokers either. He simply vilified them, taxed them, lied about them, restricted advertising of tobacco, and forbade smoking in public places.
Comparing Hitler’s treatment of those he murdered to smokers would be absurd. Comparing Hitler’s treatment of smokers to the behavior of today's anti-smokers is a perfect apples to apples comparison. Today’s tobacco nannies demand that no one ever smoke in any room they might enter someday. They claim hurricane force winds are necessary to clear smoke from a room. Adolph forbade anyone smoking in any room he might ever enter.
The phrase "passive smoking" was coined by Fritz Lickint in his book “Tobacco and the Organism,” which he produced for the German AntiTobacco League. With no evidence to back him up, he claimed that smokers were poisoning everyone around them. (He also insisted that coffee caused cancer.) Passive smoking is, of course, the primary battle cry of today's nannies.
But again anecdotal. You wanted a case study:
http://www.safeguards.org/pages/news_template.asp?id=124
A small quote from the study. quote:
According to the study, which will appear in the prestigious British Journal of Medicine, exposure to secondhand smoke had no significant effect on death rates from lung cancer or heart disease. The rates were similar for those with spouses who smoked and those with nonsmoking spouses, the study found.
But on counter point - there has been a recorded death directly attributed to smoking. All the details can be found on this site: http://www.davehitt.com/facts/
It describes the authors attempt to get confirmation of this information posted on the American Cancer Societies website: "On your website you claim that 63,000 people die from second hand smoke every year. Could you please name three or four or them?" Mr Hitt goes on to say; "I e-mailed Joe Cherner, a rabid activist responsible for the ban in New York City. He didn't reply. To be honest, I didn't expect him to, because I've had many e-mail exchanges with him in the past. He got into a snit when I asked him about the murder of Dana Blake. Dana was stabbed to death trying to enforce Joe's ban, making him the only employee whose health really was affected by SHS. Joe hasn't answered any of my e-mails since."
Hey, I don't smoke, and while eating I don't like to smell smoke, but the Libertarian in me requires defending people's inherent rights to partake in things bad for them even to the point of it killing them. I don't support laws regarding motorcycle helmets or seat belts either. Do you know why seat belts are on planes? It's so they can identify the bodies easier after crashes. Do you think everyone that dies in a plane crash DIDN'T wear a seat belt?
Besides who knows when they'll pass a law making BDSM play illegal - oh wait, it already is in quite a few places....
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