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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 5:07:18 PM   
orfunboi


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ORIGINAL: Nigousan

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ORIGINAL: Archer

Now just as an exercise in stretching the idea to it's limits. (I love doing this) lets see for the forums we will need a few more catagories.

Ask the Male Dominant
Ask the Female Dominant
Ask the Master
Ask the Mistress
Ask the male slave
Ask the female slave
Ask the male submissive
Ask the female submissive
Ask the Gorean Master
Ask the Gorean Mistress
Ask the Leather Master
Ask the Leather Mistress
Tell the gorean slave, (LOL had to make the one jab all in good fun)

The message overall is if we split them all out into their seperate sections some folks would be really happy that they could then just gather the information most directly related to their view. But if you look at reality, how much information and how many ideas have already crossed the boundries to be used by those in other styles/ formats? Tons of it. I know many a Leather Master who read the Gorean books back when they first came out and found things, ideas etc, that they have canabalized and redressed as Leather. Funny thing is I have always wondered at the fact that so many Leather customs of the Old Guard were reflected in the Gorean books to begin with. Which came first the ishan or the egg.


You forgot the male and female switches and the men and women looking for rough sex ;)

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As for the topic on hand:

If we feel the need to contribute our opinions, thoughts, and stories to a thread, we'll post there.
I don't need someone telling me that I can't post here because I happen to have a vagina.
So what?
If I have something to add, I'll add it.


Yea and boi's....everyone is always forgetting bout da bois...

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 5:08:08 PM   
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Sure he can if he wants to be. Ron is a honorary Mistress. Its all in what title you feel that you want for  yourself. Who cares what others think?

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 5:19:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

I'm a submissive. I'm an owned submissive. I am also his slave. What gives me the right to post in the "Ask a Master" forum?

Why, it's because I have a Master's Degree of course!!!

On paper. Certified and licensed in two states.
I didn't just make this stuff up.

I am often amazed at how simple these answers can be.

juliet


You go girl...uh, i mean Master....

   

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 5:20:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Wait.  LaM is Mr. Christie?

Now I'm very confused.

Yours,


benji

Edited to add:  Maybe I should ask a Master about it.  Where's a good forum to post that to?


i would suggest Ask a Mistress......

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 5:41:12 PM   
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Greetings, MstrssPassion:

Thank you for replying to my post.  I do appreciate the diversity of opinions and apologize if I came across as a sanctimonious upstart -- wasn't my intention to relay anything more than my own opinion.

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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

You kind of already answered your question in the earlier portion of your post. Chatrooms are predominantly filled with people who you will most likely never meet out in the real world. A majority of these people wouldn't have a clue how to behave outside of their virtual realities.


This is certainly a valid point...we probably only differ in opinion on percentages.

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I doubt it.... most everyone will tend to agree that you should get out of the chatrooms if you are seeking some reality.


I disagree.  It is my personal opinion that reality happens everywhere...even in chatrooms...on message boards...on the phone...in a letter, etc.  It is the honesty that you (or I) personally bring to the interaction.  If you are saying that chatrooms have degraded to the point where they offer not even a whiff of reality, honesty, truth and contain no redeeming benefit, I suggest this is not the case in every single situation.  Maybe in a lot of cases <grins while trying not to be too naive>, but not in every case.  I have met quite a few people from chatrooms.   Partied with a lot, kissed a few, traveled with a few, moved in with one...its been real.  Not everyone can get up or go like I can (or wants to) but that doesn't negate their input.  Just because they cannot, or do not, want to meet me does not always rule them out as a complete fantasy nut.  It can in some cases, but not all.  It is the same kind of reality you can get in a bar or at a hockey game at first blush -- a person just has to use their head.  I doubt you meant "all chatrooms" but even if you didn't,  I still probably have a lighter view on them.

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The point is that this individual wasn't asking legitimate questions, this individual already had their mind made up & was not seeking answers.


This had occurred to me but from the posts I have seen from female dominants across the boards there seems to be quite a few that really enjoy expressing their ire....so it seemed like a win-win.  She gets in her diss and everyone else gets to turn her into lunch meat.  I chose to ignore the intent and consider the question.  (I can separate them since I am not emotional about either one.)

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You are entitled to personal preference & under the circumstances you described above then you have to decide whether you are set in your conviction to only be seen by the female doctor & wait for her to return from her break or are you capable of compromise & see the male doctor so that you can get on with your day.


But the reason I consider it a valid question is because what if the medical attention I am seeking is just as important to me as getting the female perspective/interaction?  I'm not bleeding from the head, so I can be specific about the type of care I am looking for at that time.  To say that it isn't important at all is saying that men and women think, talk, touch exactly the same way (just my opinion right there), and I do not agree with that without any kind of judgment as to this way is bad or that way is good.  Personal preference only.

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Now as for the question being posed to this board... the OP came into the Ask a Master forum & already had the knowledge that many different types of people post her but for some unknown reason (or might I suggest for a known reason) this individual targeted the dominant women. It is easy to track others movements on the boards... at the time I replied this member had only posted one time on the Gorean board & every other post was on here, with this thread & never once was any reply made that spoke of attempting to discover why women post here... they were more about enforcing an agenda of discrediting women who would post her & make attacks upon their womanliness. This tactic is something that runs rampant in the virtual gorean world but not in the real life gorean world (at least those who I have known in the real world).


I have neither the time nor the inclination to track posters, but I would suppose that it might be important to you to make sure people are being straight (or real) with you.  Perhaps she did want to malign a group of women she simply cannot fathom in her boundary-oriented world, or maybe a dominant woman recently peed in her Wheaties and this was more of a hit and run for kicks.  I don't know.  It was not a personal slight to me (its not like her opinion is going to change the way things are done) so I thought about the idea itself and how I would feel if I came into a Master's forum to ask a Master a question and got 20 replies from everyone but a Master.  (I did learn that some women call themselves "Master,"   I didn't know that before so that was a freebie for me.)  In the end, it probably wouldn't matter to me at all but if that's the case we could actually change all the forum titles to things like "Ask a Goat," or  "What Would Melba Toast Do?"

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No one made fun of this person's gorean status but she opened herself up to gang type ridicule since it was unanimously perceived that this member posted in a deceptive fashion. This member was also never subject to any form of flaming. Look at it like one's personal preference for the female doctor of the male one you made, we are also entitiled to personal opinion & free to speak our personal opinions. 


My perception was different, but I certainly would not try and squelch free speech or different opinions.  Honestly, just wanted to point out that there are some awesome Goreans out and about.  I wasn't even expecting anyone to believe me. <laughs>  Simply felt an urge to get the word out.

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Most posters on here will go to almost any length to help someone with real questions but when they show that their intentions are less than honest... they will be faced with less than favorable replies.


I disagree.  There appears to be almost as many people ready to pounce without immediate provocation as there are people ready to help, so I wouldn't agree with "most" (at this time, from what I have read).   Luckily, there are a lot more funny people posting than not so at the very least it can be extremely entertaining to read the boards.

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I have a great deal of respect for the gorean community & I am rather good friends with a few real-time houses. I was actually accepted in one at one time by a mentor. He was the first person to refer to me as a master & the way I look at it... coming from a gorean, that is the highest honor he could bestow upon me.


I have also met some fantastic people in the BDSM community and the Gorean community but I am sure to have a loooooooooooong road ahead of me before anyone bestows something on me. <grins>  In my experience, it would be meant as an honor to be referred to as a master by a FM, and it must have felt especially good coming from someone you respect.

Thank you again for your reply, MstrssPassion.

Best wishes,
Christine

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 5:53:35 PM   
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omg. look at me! Not only reading the Master forum, but posting as well! I'm female and not even a master! Im an upstart for sure. 

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 6:24:36 PM   
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Hey.. I am all for starting a new club..

Upstarts United... aka U.U.   our motto is "where its all about me"

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 6:35:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MASTERRocker

True - but a MASTER (masculine form) can never be a Mistress............... 'smirks'


Well, sure they could... we'd ust have to wonder about them.  Far be it from us as an open minded community to wonder why there might be a male Mistress... but now, where would he post?

DV

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 6:39:37 PM   
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A man remains a man; and a lady like yourself is always a lady..............

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 7:37:41 PM   
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His name is Ron(ne)

and he was made a Misstress by fiat some months ago, and posts all over the boards.

Ron
But he prefers Dominatrix


< Message edited by mnottertail -- 11/8/2006 7:38:38 PM >


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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 7:48:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Well, sure they could... we'd ust have to wonder about them.  Far be it from us as an open minded community to wonder why there might be a male Mistress... but now, where would he post?



Wherever Michael wants to.

Yours,


benji

PS: And before anyone tells me Mike's submissive, I have heard the same rumours.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/8/2006 9:26:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nigousan

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ORIGINAL: xBullx

I'm curious only as to why a Lesbian would want to use a typically male term such as master, even if she was rather masculine.


Well, some want to become men, as they feel that they were "wrongfully" birthed as a female.
They usually are classified as "Transvestites", as they cross-dress and do all the necessary things it'd take to be a man (without the plumbing).

Some go farther and get hormone treatments which lets them grow mustaches, get a bit stockier, etc.

So most of these women, feel they are men, and classify themselves as such.
Hence why they'd call themselves a Master or Daddy.


and then there are those of us who are not lesbians, don't dress like men and like their boypets to call them sir.  really, it's such fun to stand there in heels, stockings, and corset watching the boy at your feet struggle with the duplicity of the situation.  there's an orginal concept.  women who like to be duplicitous......

and xBullx just because someone feels they cannot learn something about their brand of submission from yours doesn't mean they think yours is no good.  it just means it isn't theirs.  she was pleanty respectful.  don't be so touchy.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 2:09:07 AM   
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greetings

hello i am a domme i come here when i have the time and i asnwer post many men here are fine and they do answer back  where did this thought come from they do not answer post or questions wishes to know

mons

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 3:16:28 AM   
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 To the OP  ( who it seems has ceased to participate).  It does seem that you are overly concerned with the actions of female Dominants, even though  all orientations regularly post and reply in threads regardless of  specific forum.  As other posters have mentioned,, regardless of orientation, many perspectives are meant to enhance a particular subject.  I don't often find that i have anything to add to threads in the  "ask a Mistress" or "Ask a Master"  sections, but if i do, i hope to be able to do so without recriminations. 
That being said, i'd like to address your comment about the Females (Dominants)  rushing to defend themselves. That is human nature. Given the wording of your questions the  "self proclaimed Dommes" as you labled them  was in my opinion purposely inflamatory, by implying that you do not recognize or respect  their orientation.  (yet you expect others to respect yours)

For the sake of discussion, how do you think i would be received if i went into the gorean forum, and challenged it's member's grip on reality.  Or asked... "Exactly where is Gor? "  (believe me...i've been tempted)  To be honest, if i were to base my life on a series of fantasy novels i would also choose LOTR, it just seems like it would be so much fun to be a hobbit.  Or maybe Star Wars....but only if i get to be Princess Lea . However, i refrain from doing so out of simple respect. I may not be able to grasp or understand the ideaology behind basing ones exsistance on mediocre fantasy novels, but since this practice has no bearing or affect on my  exsistance, i choose the "live and let live" philosophy.

Have a nice day

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 3:35:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Another

Tal,

I quite understand it's an open forum, but the question still remains, WHY would you want to post here in, "Ask a Master", if you are female?  

I wish you all well,

Another
   because sometimes, we are the ones with the answers.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 8:35:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

That being said, i'd like to address your comment about the Females (Dominants)  rushing to defend themselves. That is human nature. Given the wording of your questions the  "self proclaimed Dommes" as you labled them  was in my opinion purposely inflamatory, by implying that you do not recognize or respect  their orientation.  (yet you expect others to respect yours)

For the sake of discussion, how do you think i would be received if i went into the gorean forum, and challenged it's member's grip on reality.  Or asked... "Exactly where is Gor? "  (believe me...i've been tempted)  To be honest, if i were to base my life on a series of fantasy novels i would also choose LOTR, it just seems like it would be so much fun to be a hobbit.  Or maybe Star Wars....but only if i get to be Princess Lea . However, i refrain from doing so out of simple respect. I may not be able to grasp or understand the ideaology behind basing ones exsistance on mediocre fantasy novels, but since this practice has no bearing or affect on my  exsistance, i choose the "live and let live" philosophy.

Have a nice day


I hope the OP reads and replies to this. Though I doubt she will, other then the lame "you aren't a male master so you aren't worth my time" sort of response she gave julia.

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 9:16:08 AM   
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Hey, I just thought of something...I'm "master of my domain" as I have a girl and a husband to take care of that...does that count?

**wonders who else watched that Seinfeld show**

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 3:12:31 PM   
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Counts as far as I'm concerned. I once had a telemarker ask to speak to the man of the house and he got a lecture about how not every woman lives with a man and we completely capable of maintaining a household by ourselves. That said, I'm still looking forward to the time when my dominant moves in with me or I with him. :-)

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 5:37:31 PM   
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i've a horrible image of Another.  Having stirred the pot sufficiently, she now sits back and watches the aftermath, smug and quite self-satisfied at her own perceived sense of power.  Don't know if that's true, but it's a disturbing image all the same. 

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RE: Ask a Master...isn't that a man? - 11/9/2006 10:24:36 PM   
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Meah. I don't see where it matters... I just read, laugh, think, and thank God that I'm not related to some people... and wish I was to others!  And post, when I want . Seriously though, how sad is a person whose only sense of worth/power comes from the perception that other people are replying to their post only, and not to others who happen to be posting on the same thread?
 
So, what do you call (so such a person would know where to post) a physiological born female, who has a thing for bois and grrls, who id's themselves as pansexual, has one Y chomosome (and one or two X chromosomes), and is in a live-in relationship with a submissive male?

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