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subwantsamaster -> Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 3:09:44 PM)

[:(]  Hello, just wondering..How do u all treat people with HIV? Are u one that ignores, accepts, or what? U see I am HIV+ not from sex not drugs (needles are not my thing..smoke) and well blood transfussion in Oct 05. It is hard, but I guess what Im asking...If I met u, n kept that from u, and u found out later what would u do? I DO disclose that information if not asap b4 anyone meets me.  I am just curious




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 3:13:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subwantsamaster

[:(]  Hello, just wondering..How do u all treat people with HIV? Are u one that ignores, accepts, or what? U see I am HIV+ not from sex not drugs (needles are not my thing..smoke) and well blood transfussion in Oct 05. It is hard, but I guess what Im asking...If I met u, n kept that from u, and u found out later what would u do? I DO disclose that information if not asap b4 anyone meets me.  I am just curious

If we started dating regularly and you kept it from me, I'd have a problem with it.  If we became friends and close, and didn't tell me within a few months, I'd be confused and perhaps hurt, but I'd get over it.

But if you told me about it, I'd still definitely meet and become friends.  I would not do certain things with you, but friends for sure!





BitaTruble -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 3:31:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subwantsamaster

[:(]  Hello, just wondering..How do u all treat people with HIV? Are u one that ignores, accepts, or what? U see I am HIV+ not from sex not drugs (needles are not my thing..smoke) and well blood transfussion in Oct 05. It is hard, but I guess what Im asking...If I met u, n kept that from u, and u found out later what would u do? I DO disclose that information if not asap b4 anyone meets me.  I am just curious


I try to treat others with kindness unless their own attitude dictates it would be better to just ignore them. Being HIV+ would not change how "I" interact with you unless we had some sort of physical relationship, then I would be cautious with certan activity's. Illness does not preclude friendship in my book.. and if and when you were ready to share it, it would not change a thing. That said, I am from the SF bay area and have a lot of friends and some family who have died from AIDS or who are HIV+, and tend to be on the open minded side of the issue. I would not think badly of someone having a fear of an HIV+ person, but I would hope they would be open minded enough to get themselves educated.

Try not to get mad at those who are afraid as it truly stems from ignorance. There are plenty of us who are not afraid and will welcome you into friendship with open arms and hugs.

Celeste




subwantsamaster -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 3:40:56 PM)

Ty all, I do understand. I have learned other measures to protect self. and to me I have this motto..."I warned you, if YOU choose to go without, and you catch...BOO HOO..NOT my fault." I have people that dont care, have some that are scared but ok, and there are some SOB out there that can't and WONT deal with it.

Thanks for answering, cant wait to see other responses




starshineowned -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 4:24:40 PM)

Greetings..~smiles~


Just curious..but what was your initial attitude when you first found out? Probably a whole lot of angry would assume. If you are wanting persons to interact with you, and be compassionate then does think
quote:

BOO HOO..NOT my fault
this might just be the attitude you get right back regardless if they chose to interact with you and did or did not use protections. If they take that step, and something goes wrong surely you would want to have the same compassion and understanding towards their initial feelings that you probably had, and give them support if possible to deal with it, and move on. People have heat of the moments and accidents happen..so unless your going to be the safeguard and take as much responsibility to prevent such things..then the blame is just as much yours is theres.

This is feelings beyond just friendship mode as your health status in that light doesn't matter.

Well Wishes

starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin




Lordandmaster -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 4:31:57 PM)

How many threads about your HIV status do you plan on starting today?




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 4:53:54 PM)

I am sorry to hear that you are HIV + but friendship is something I don't discriminate on----I looked online for a site for people with HIV and I hope this helps you (www.positivesingles.com) good luck




maybemaybenot -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 5:59:30 PM)

A blood transfusion? That is a shame, and very rare. HIV transmission via blood transfusions is about 1 in 1.8 million units/year.

Having said that, it matters not to me whether some one contracts it from unsafe sexual practices, IV drugs or a blood transfusion. I treat them exactly as I treat others. I would choose not to engage in an intimate relationship, but have had friends that had AIDS and nothing changed. Some one quite close to me is pretty close to dying of it now. I have known him for about 20 years and the only thing it changed is that we have said things and had conversations that we probably wouldn't have had unless he was dying. Prior to that, when he was just HIV positive, we had the same friendship as pre HIV+.

I worked with HIV patients in the mid 80's into the early 90's, when the vast majority of the public was scared  and ill informed about the disease. I can recall a few of my own friends and one family member who would not allow me to eat off their dinnerware. I had to eat off of paperplates etc. Those were very sad times for people with AIDS/HIV+. It was the rare person who actually retained good/healthy relationships with family and friends. And those that did usually had to lie and say they had cancer to " keep up appearance" for those who did stick around.

In my experience, attitudes and the hysteria has calmed down quite a bit and people have a better understanding of it. Generally speaking, that is.

The following statement did disturb me:

quote:

..."I warned you, if YOU choose to go without, and you catch...BOO HOO..NOT my fault." I have people that dont care, have some that are scared but ok, and there are some SOB out there that can't and WONT deal with it.


Are you referring to sexual partners? or just friends ?
* If* you are referring to sexual partners and you believe that an informed partner that does not protect themselves is not your fault. I would disagree with you. I would not allow anyone to engage in an activity with me that is harmful to them whether or not they were willing to take the risk. I would feel a great deal of responsibilty if they were to contract what ever I had. I would also be questioning the responsibilty of the partner who was willing to risk his or her life in this manner. If they don't care about themselves enought to protect themselves, they would not care about infecting another also. Just my opinion, based on my experience.

                          mbmbn




subwantsamaster -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 6:32:08 PM)

Once again, to all..thanks...To those on my comment, i went overboard..If someone were to catch it from me of course Id b concerned I am not cold hearted. to those that asked why this site? because just like u, Im into something most rnt n i figured what the hell..i am human after all..




FelinePersuasion -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 7:15:19 PM)

I shun people for lazy chat speak like u instead of you more than I ever would for them having an std.




KatyLied -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 7:52:56 PM)

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A blood transfusion? That is a shame, and very rare. HIV transmission via blood transfusions is about 1 in 1.8 million units/year.


Thank you for that clarification.  As I read this thread I sat and wondered about the occurence, in 2005, of getting HIV from a blood transfusion and figured it had to be a rare happening. 




maybemaybenot -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/6/2006 8:19:21 PM)

NP, that is why I posted the statistics. To show it still happens and to show that it is really rare and we don't need anyone freaking out that we have a tainted blood supply as we did when AIDS was first ID'd.

I suspect the incidence is less than what I stated, those were the NIH stats from 2005 and each year it has dropped in occurance.

                     mbmbn




LadyEllen -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/7/2006 3:25:45 AM)

There are plenty of blood products out there which have not been screened. Corrupt companies simply relabel them and pass them on. The Brit lawyer who is up for corruption alongside the ex Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, is mixed up with just such a company in Italy which exports stuff like this. Profit over people, every time.
E




LotusSong -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/7/2006 5:26:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subwantsamaster

[:(]  Hello, just wondering..How do u all treat people with HIV? Are u one that ignores, accepts, or what? U see I am HIV+ not from sex not drugs (needles are not my thing..smoke) and well blood transfussion in Oct 05. It is hard, but I guess what Im asking...If I met u, n kept that from u, and u found out later what would u do? I DO disclose that information if not asap b4 anyone meets me.  I am just curious


If you were Hiv+.. fucked me.. with out telling me.. and I got it.. then I'd  charge you with attempted murder.




mistoferin -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/7/2006 5:51:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subwantsamaster
Ty all, I do understand. I have learned other measures to protect self. and to me I have this motto..."I warned you, if YOU choose to go without, and you catch...BOO HOO..NOT my fault." I have people that dont care, have some that are scared but ok, and there are some SOB out there that can't and WONT deal with it.


If you warn people and they don't care and go on to have unprotected sex with you and contract the disease....I would have to think that they probably don't care much about the next person they sleep with either who would most likely be kept unaware of their interaction with you....or the next...or the next....or any of the people that those people may interact with..... You have the diagnosis....that means YOU have the responsibility not to put others at risk.




justheather -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/7/2006 7:41:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: subwantsamaster

I have this motto..."I warned you, if YOU choose to go without, and you catch...BOO HOO..NOT my fault."


Someone claiming this as his or her "motto" precludes my involvement with them on any level, regardless of HIV status.

I can imagine there would be a great deal of grieving that needs to occur when one is diagnosed with HIV. And I know that grieving is not always pretty and shouldnt be selfless. You have to grieve for you. But I have to wonder: Is this post-diagnosis anger speaking, or do you really orient yourself toward the people you love and care for in this way?




WildnWicked -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/12/2006 4:04:01 PM)

It is the responsibility of the HIV+ to protect the HIV-.

That is MY motto and most of the people in the HIV+ community that I live in.

While you are saying you do disclose, it is your responsibility to protect those who are too ignorant to protect themself. This "gift that keeps giving" needs to stop with you.

I am trying to work myself OUT of a job and attitudes like yours keep me working overtime.

I suggest you get involved in some Prevention with Positives group in your area. We do the Healthy Relationships program, but there are many other programs out there that will help teach you how to disclose and the responsibilities that you must accept.

And another suggestion, stop using your status as a defense mechanism. Nobody here is fucking you (or so it would seem from how you are posting), so disclosing it to the world is irrelevant. If you are approaching it in a way to educate people, then it would be a great service to the forums. But, you are doing it to get attention (or so it seems) and it really isn't the good kind either.

It is simply amazing that I have better stats than the CDC.. because I have met well over the number of people who contracted HIV through transfusion than the CDC is even aware of. (heavy sarcasm here folks) Everyone in prison is innocent and nobody gets HIV through sex anymore (it's all in the blood supply.. [sm=m23.gif])





medievalwench -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/12/2006 4:32:24 PM)

i think it would be irresponsible to have sex with someone who knew your status and didn't want to use protection, personally i think it shows a poor sense of respect for sexual partners and if it were me who was positive i would refuse to sleep with someone who wouldn't use protection - i have refused to sleep with someone i knew was clean who refused to use a condom, because i think its basic sense to use one.




amlonging -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/12/2006 4:56:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

There are plenty of blood products out there which have not been screened. Corrupt companies simply relabel them and pass them on. The Brit lawyer who is up for corruption alongside the ex Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, is mixed up with just such a company in Italy which exports stuff like this. Profit over people, every time.
E


Tis NOT true in the US.  All blood products are screened and there are so many people who CANNOT give blood for medical reasons as simple as hypothryroidism and the meds they are on.......... ALL blood products are screened so well in the US.  




WildnWicked -> RE: Being HIV+ Sucks (11/13/2006 12:38:24 AM)

In the US, if a man is gay or has ever had sex with another man... they can never give blood. Ain't that a trip.

quote:

ORIGINAL: amlonging

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

There are plenty of blood products out there which have not been screened. Corrupt companies simply relabel them and pass them on. The Brit lawyer who is up for corruption alongside the ex Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, is mixed up with just such a company in Italy which exports stuff like this. Profit over people, every time.
E


Tis NOT true in the US.  All blood products are screened and there are so many people who CANNOT give blood for medical reasons as simple as hypothryroidism and the meds they are on.......... ALL blood products are screened so well in the US.  




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