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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 1/18/2007 5:56:24 PM   
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As she reads  responses to this question, the sad thing is most people flat off say NO NO,its not safe, I wouldnt do it  and  on and on and on...
The  sad thing is...You never know. You don't know who has HIV, Aids, Herpes  or any of the number of sexually transmitted diseases that are out there.  And some people who have it don't know it either.
She has  many friends who frequently "Play" with numerous partners on the spur of the moment, some are careful and have strict  boundaries as to how they play, others don't give a damn can easily log onto the internet find the first person in their area and say hey lets get together and fuck tonight. 
The only thing a girl can say is she herself tries to be safe, careful and watches exchanges of fluids and blood, If  she found out though that her Owner, best friend, trainer mentor,  or any respected person in the community has, developed, or becomes infected with any STD's does that mean i am going to treat them any differently or destroy a good  friendship or relationship...No...just have to play "safe(r)" (thank you WildnWicked f or that...like the way you said that)

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 1/19/2007 7:41:51 PM   
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Glowingred: wonderful, sinply, utterly wonderful. I have nothing else to say other then I wish you and yours many long happy healthy  decades together!

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 1/19/2007 7:44:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subwantsamaster

Hello all u Sirs'  quick n simple...Would u conceder a HIV+ for a sub or not? please explain. ont worry i wont hold judgement, just curious  ty have a ghood day


Considering that we're now in the 60's as to responses...let's just consider the obvious.

Uhhhhmmmmm.....

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

< Message edited by LTRsubNW -- 1/19/2007 7:45:42 PM >


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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 1/19/2007 8:16:49 PM   
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Yes, I would - and yes, I have taken on a collared sub who is HIV + though I am not.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 1/20/2007 6:47:49 AM   
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 Yes. Universal precautions would apply, just like always.

I'm a paramedic and auto extrication tech (I run the "jaws of life" at accident scenes) and often "play with" more blood at a single incident than most of you will see in your lifetime, crawling and kneeling in the stuff.  The rate of transmission to healthcare workers is vanishingly rare because the standard precautions are very effective.


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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 1/21/2007 9:52:05 AM   
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As with all things its not a black and white issue. depends on what kind of a relationship it is. but for me. bottom line? no.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 1/21/2007 11:21:18 PM   
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Personally, yes, I would take on an HIV+ sub if they fit my needs in one.  Nothing I require of a sub would put me at risk, so I'd not hesitate.  My requirements are such that the risk would be no higher than any interaction with a stranger and less than those of when I was working in piercing and tattooing.

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/20/2007 11:49:19 AM   
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Given the expectation that we act responsibly, why would one not?  

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/20/2007 5:41:11 PM   
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ok i'm a sub with HIV and some of the thing's you people are saying are not true. You're not educated and yes my Master knows i have HIV and still loves me. There's meds that keep the HIV in check and befor you think i got it from sex or something i was born with it and my mother died from it. So i have lived with it for awhile now. thank you for your time

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/20/2007 8:52:02 PM   
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Wow, so much to respond to and I haven't even read the entire thread.

No, HIV is not a death sentence the way it used to be, though I think that a lot of the population are a bit too overconfident in its treatability and don't take the threat serious enough. Obviously that is not the case in this group. I would absolutely take on a slave with HIV if everything else matched up compatibility/attraction wise. People can die any day, anytime, from anything. You can be the healthiest person on earth today and have a sudden brain aneurism tomorrow with no warning signs. HIV is also not as powerful as people think, relative hard to contract. For example, it doesn't last well outside of the body. Condoms are pretty effective, 99 point something percent, and I'm sure no one is going to say they want to gamble with their lives even to a tenth of a percent but think of it this way: if you were going to have sex with someone whose HIV status you weren't sure about, like a one night stand, you'd use a condom, right? So you're expecting that condom to protect you just in case that person has something. Now why does it all of a sudden become TOO RISKY when you know the person has something? Same condom, same possible disease. Then there's the fact that oral sex is pretty safe in the bigger picture, add to that a flavored condom and I'd say you're down to no chance of transmission. It all comes down to being smart about it but no excuses that I can see being put out there would stop me from taking on someone with HIV. Even the method of contraction. To judge someone as a good or bad person by the way they became infected (was it drugs and promiscuity or a blood transfusion?) is to claim that all victims are not equally worthy of our understanding. It says that someone must have done something to deserve getting this disease. Just because someone made a mistake in their behavior doesn't mean that they deserve to be infected...unless we are radical right wing Christians, I guess. Now, if they are still participating in that risky behavior, that would be a different story, but has more to do with my lack of interest in being with a drug user than judging them for being HIV+

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/20/2007 8:55:58 PM   
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Here are some links that can shed a little light on this

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=ask-01-01-07

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=ask-05-08-10

It's not a good idea for two people with herpes to have unprotected sex or even kiss if one of them is having an outbreak..there are different strains of herpes as well.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/sexual-health/std/herpes.htm



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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/20/2007 9:11:41 PM   
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i would assfuck one with a condom on or let em suck my dick. no whips or needle play fasho

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/21/2007 11:52:11 AM   
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Newp - i've a wee one and i wouldnt take the risk.  Even if its not a death sentence anymore, even if you can minimize risks.... Not worth it.    i've been around those in the past who've had it.. and that was fine.......  but not while i'm SOLELY responsible for another human beings life.  

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/21/2007 2:08:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

I'm in the it depends camp as well, It would mean much more study on all sides, it would mean that the relationship would have to exclude behaviours where body fluid transfers are a real risk. But I can see the possibility of taking on someone with HIV as a submissive. But then again it would not be a primary relationship already have one of those.


I think Archer has hit a major "nail on the head" with this one.  As someone who is not poly, and only seeking a primary (and only) relationship, I would not be involved with someone who is HIV positive.   

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RE: Would u take a HIV+ for a sub? - 2/21/2007 2:19:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DominaSmartass

Wow, so much to respond to and I haven't even read the entire thread.

No, HIV is not a death sentence the way it used to be, though I think that a lot of the population are a bit too overconfident in its treatability and don't take the threat serious enough. Obviously that is not the case in this group. I would absolutely take on a slave with HIV if everything else matched up compatibility/attraction wise. People can die any day, anytime, from anything. You can be the healthiest person on earth today and have a sudden brain aneurism tomorrow with no warning signs. HIV is also not as powerful as people think, relative hard to contract. For example, it doesn't last well outside of the body. Condoms are pretty effective, 99 point something percent, and I'm sure no one is going to say they want to gamble with their lives even to a tenth of a percent but think of it this way: if you were going to have sex with someone whose HIV status you weren't sure about, like a one night stand, you'd use a condom, right? So you're expecting that condom to protect you just in case that person has something. Now why does it all of a sudden become TOO RISKY when you know the person has something? Same condom, same possible disease. Then there's the fact that oral sex is pretty safe in the bigger picture, add to that a flavored condom and I'd say you're down to no chance of transmission. It all comes down to being smart about it but no excuses that I can see being put out there would stop me from taking on someone with HIV. Even the method of contraction. To judge someone as a good or bad person by the way they became infected (was it drugs and promiscuity or a blood transfusion?) is to claim that all victims are not equally worthy of our understanding. It says that someone must have done something to deserve getting this disease. Just because someone made a mistake in their behavior doesn't mean that they deserve to be infected...unless we are radical right wing Christians, I guess. Now, if they are still participating in that risky behavior, that would be a different story, but has more to do with my lack of interest in being with a drug user than judging them for being HIV+


I haven't seen anyone on this thread judge someone for being HIV positive.  I have seen many, myself included, simply say that it is not a risk we are willing to take.  I don't see it as being any different from saying that someone would not be involved with a person of a different race, religion, political view etc.  Everyone is entitled to their own preferences in partners.

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