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sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 12:59:55 PM)

Yes...you are entitled to your male hating (wether you pubilcly admit it or not) and your supremacist agenda.

Just remember...the rest of society won't go along with it.

If you want to bring down Patriarchy (Matriarchy would be just as bad) you aren't going to do it that way.

You can call me whatever the hell you wish. Thats why I spent 4 years in the military for...to protect that right.

I don't think pointing out the obvious that is plain for all to see "shitting in someones back yard".




Denny17 -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:02:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

1st The last time I knew everybody is entitled to their own opinions and if you're having a hard time accepting that then forget it, move on and keep your opinions.
2nd You can't say something is just plain wrong (within moral limits) because it doesn't appeal to you.
3rd Your profile sounds bitter to me and so is your journal and now stop feeling sorry for yourself and squeezing your bitterness on everybody else.
4th just...BLAH!!! since I don't really have a forth but I think it's more cool to but a fourth up here too. Well I do have a fourth when thinking about it, 4th: the link does work, sometimes it comes up as invalid blabla ID but if it happens you can get past it by skipping the "www" part of the link, or at least it worked for me[:)] or you can close the browser window and try opening it again then it should work!



sissyifytoserve bitter?  Nooooooooooo

beyond bitter is more like it.  what a repellant attitude.



orfunboi -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:04:54 PM)

If you don't like the lady, and that is pretty obvious, then why read her threads and participate in them.

Unless you love the negitive attention you get, which would explain most of your posts on CM.

It would also explain why your constantly bitching about not being able to find a partner...who wants that much negativity in their lives.

And just for the record, no i don't belive in female superiority, i just don't care if someone else does. Just like i really don't care if you ever remove that stick.



sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:05:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Denny17

sissyifytoserve bitter? Nooooooooooo

beyond bitter is more like it. what a repellant attitude.


Oh please....

How is asking questions or disagreeing with someones Philosiphy bitter?




Denny17 -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:05:48 PM)

*laughs



sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:09:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

If you don't like the lady, and that is pretty obvious, then why read her threads and participate in them.

Unless you love the negitive attention you get, which would explain most of your posts on CM.

It would also explain why your constantly bitching about not being able to find a partner...who wants that much negativity in their lives.

And just for the record, no i don't belive in female superiority, i just don't care if someone else does. Just like i really don't care if you ever remove that stick.


I never said I didnt like her...i just don't agree with her lifestyle or female supremacy...and everyone freaked out because I disagreed.

I am very different yes....that is why I attract negative attention...or people call me "negative" because i ask quetions.

I think more people should.

I rarely bitch about not being able to find a partner exept in my journal...which is always your own personal thoughts for others to read.
If you don't like it...don't read it.

If you are going to put up something here in the forums for others to read...not everyone is necessarily going
to find it to their liking.

Happens to me all the time.

I'm cool with it.



MissyRane -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:24:09 PM)

oh yes of course you are the ONLY person who is different you're the only crossdresser on the damn planet BIG CLAP FOR THAT so proud of you! yes you're different we all hate you! You are also suffering from hysteria and paranoia? I mean come ON give me a break and speaking of journals since you don't like Goddess Dianna Vesta's posting why are you READING it!?!?!? and you're more than just being on another damn opinion you're saying her opinions are wrong and she has often stated that she doesn't hate men she simply thinks she's superior to them and excuse me but what's wrong with that? She is perfectly entitled to think so just as many men think they're superior to women. I'm sure many women disagree and think they're equal, lesser to the men it's OPINION damn it you know what that word means??? and you can't say she's something WRONG she simply holds different opinions and views than you it's not like she's hunting them down and persecuting them.

anyhowz back to the origins...I kinda liked the interview myself[:D]



sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:32:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

oh yes of course you are the ONLY person who is different you're the only crossdresser on the damn planet BIG CLAP FOR THAT so proud of you! yes you're different we all hate you! You are also suffering from hysteria and paranoia? I mean come ON give me a break and speaking of journals since you don't like Goddess Dianna Vesta's posting why are you READING it!?!?!? and you're more than just being on another damn opinion you're saying her opinions are wrong and she has often stated that she doesn't hate men she simply thinks she's superior to them and excuse me but what's wrong with that? She is perfectly entitled to think so just as many men think they're superior to women. I'm sure many women disagree and think they're equal, lesser to the men it's OPINION damn it you know what that word means??? and you can't say she's something WRONG she simply holds different opinions and views than you it's not like she's hunting them down and persecuting them.



Gee...Who is getting hostile here?

I never said I was the only one who was different #1.

Hysteria or Paranoia? No...just asking questions...and if anything getting upset at what I read...because to me (remember that individual opinion?)
I see it as not a good thing to think you are better than someone else. Things like that led to mass slaughter and the imprisonment of human souls.

I can read and criticize whatever the heck I want little lady.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:35:24 PM)

Christ, sissify, you're one of the few people on earth who can generate sympathy for a persecuted supremacist.  Whyncha back off at this point.  You've said all you have to say, no?



sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 1:38:27 PM)

Yes..

Ive said enough.

Personally id like to see other people post here that can see female supremacy can be a bad thing...but i doubt it.

..and if they do..I promise i won't even respond to it.




Msenslave -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:06:42 PM)

Having been a Mistress for 10 yrs,I believe female supremecy to be the fantasy of male subs/slaves.What is supremecy??all females are superior to males.. I'm sure that would confuse many female subs and slaves and how do Dom's feel about supremecy?Who's definition is a female measured by? Having achieved a ripe old age I can confidently say that I have met many females in and out of the scene that are far from 'supreme' and a few who could claim supremecy and ironically it is those women who haven't a clue why they are as effective as they are. Supremecy is all about the individual,not their gender.



LadyEllen -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:24:25 PM)

sissify - have you visited Elise Sutton's website?

Its about "loving female authority" - "female domination and male submission in loving and caring relationships".

To me, it speaks to something other than a femi-nazi agenda to take over the world. It speaks to those in relationships where the female is in ascendancy over the male. ie - not all relationships, and ergo not the world.

Universal female supremacy would of course be a bad thing - just as universal male supremacy would be (and has been in times past and is in some places today) a bad thing. Not all females, just as not all males, are possessed of the intelligence, wisdom and other qualities required to be in authority over anything - indeed many females and many males are incapable of exercising authority over themselves, let alone anything or anyone else.

But for those females who are so possessed, then it would be foolish indeed to say that their sex/gender renders them incapable, in the same way that it is foolish to render every male capable because of his sex/gender, regardless of his stupidity and incompetence. If those less able to exercise authority happen to be matched with those who are so able, then surely this is an ideal match - regardless of which is the stronger party.

If then some of those who are stronger in terms of being able to exercise authority then profess and exalt this strength, then I see no problem in that, just as I see no problem in those who are weaker in those terms acknowledging their comparative weakness. If two people from each side of that spectrum seek out their opposite and make a match which suits both, then that is wonderful, regardless of the sex/gender of the two parties. If a group of like minded stronger people band together to celebrate their lifestyle and preach its benefits, then I dont see that as a problem either to be honest.

Now I would see a problem if what you said this is all about were true; in my view a femi-nazi agenda aimed at overthrowing society and enforcing female supremacy on the world. Not only would that be crazy, for the reasons stated above, but it also would never work out, because quite simply not every female in the world would want it, let alone all the males of the world. What I see Elise Sutton as doing rather, is making people aware of the possibilities of female authority in loving relationships - if by some quirk every relationship in the world became alike with that model, then so be it - but, it aint ever gonna happen, so I really dont see what your problem is? 

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sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:30:32 PM)

I have a problem with anyone who publicly states females are superior to males...and wants to keep males in horse pens.

Not healthy.To me that is a person who is seriously deluded.

I don't consider me having a "problem" with disagreeing with that.



MissyRane -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:31:20 PM)

I know I'm a little lady and so what!
I agree 350% with Lady Ellen on this one (as usual)[:)]



gooddogbenji -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:31:57 PM)

A few notes about the interview, then I will grow up and give a real opinion.

The font was horrible to read.  Bold, italics, all caps, and underlines are meant to emphasize text, not ffor legibility.  They make you slow down to read the word.

Typos are somewhat similar.  Too many, and people like me start to skim.  Add in the italics, and a skim becomes a "Meh, fuck it"

So, my real opinion:  Ideas of superiourity are less a problem because of one group being made inferiour.  We all do that.  I mean, I know every one of you is inferiour to me.  The problem is not even in expecting men to bow down and worship Women.  That can be forced, and has been done to many groups.  That's just another day on Earth.

The problem is taking Women, who should, as superiour beings, be able to live the way they want, and forcing them into a mould of being superiour.  Removing their freedom to live as inferiour if they want.  Not letting them feel the way they want. 

Anyone can be forced down.  No one can be forced up.

Yours,


benji



DiannaVesta -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:36:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

A few notes about the interview, then I will grow up and give a real opinion.

The font was horrible to read.  Bold, italics, all caps, and underlines are meant to emphasize text, not ffor legibility.  They make you slow down to read the word.

Typos are somewhat similar.  Too many, and people like me start to skim.  Add in the italics, and a skim becomes a "Meh, fuck it"

So, my real opinion:  Ideas of superiourity are less a problem because of one group being made inferiour.  We all do that.  I mean, I know every one of you is inferiour to me.  The problem is not even in expecting men to bow down and worship Women.  That can be forced, and has been done to many groups.  That's just another day on Earth.

The problem is taking Women, who should, as superiour beings, be able to live the way they want, and forcing them into a mould of being superiour.  Removing their freedom to live as inferiour if they want.  Not letting them feel the way they want. 

Anyone can be forced down.  No one can be forced up.

Yours,


benji


You're right about the formatting. I'm still trying to figure My Space out but will change this.

AS for the rest... well you already know how I feel.



PhDslave -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:41:35 PM)

Thanks for sharing the information about your interview. I'm a big fan of Elise Sutton. I don't know if female superiority is true or not, but the world would be a lot better place if we treated women and girls better. A cliche to be sure, but true nonetheless.



DiannaVesta -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:52:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PhDslave

Thanks for sharing the information about your interview. I'm a big fan of Elise Sutton. I don't know if female superiority is true or not, but the world would be a lot better place if we treated women and girls better. A cliche to be sure, but true nonetheless.


Thank you.



sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:58:48 PM)

It isn't only women and girls who are mistreated....believe it or not.



LadyEllen -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/12/2006 2:59:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

I have a problem with anyone who publicly states females are superior to males...and wants to keep males in horse pens.

Not healthy.To me that is a person who is seriously deluded.

I don't consider me having a "problem" with disagreeing with that.


Crikey - read between the lines! The site has to make money too - so it will feature stuff that is likely to appeal to males who do wish for female supremacy and therefore induce those males to spend money in pursuit of their desires, in order for the site to gain income.

I dont know Elise Sutton, but to me it would seem totally at odds with loving female authority in a caring relationship to keep males in stables apart from as a component in some femdom game; let alone impractical for most. It does however fit in well with supplying male fantasy with the fodder it needs (pun intended) for the above purposes - the interview is to be published in the site magazine after all, the subscribers to which are likely to be.......male. I would also guess that Elise Sutton would not want to have anything much to do with males who are not submissive in the first place either.

I could very quickly agree with you sissify, if I thought that there was anything to your suspicions about the motives. No strike that; actually I would be laughing at it for how deluded it would be.

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