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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 4:46:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Morrigel
So far as I can see, it exists entirely to inspire mutually pleasurable interaction between deeply submissive men and aggressively dominant women.

i totally agree with You.

i read the book from Elise Sutton and although i do not agree with everything, i haven't been offended though.

The Female Supremacy as it is described in it couldn't be compared to other that happened through History.

i do consider that Men and Women are equal and i really wish i could be also true in our societies (where Women are still mistreated). But i (pesronally) enjoy the idea of being ruled by a Dominant Woman that i would adore and worship.

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:02:05 AM   
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Are men and women equal? I dont think so; not all men are equal, and not all women are equal, so to say men and women are equal can make no sense and is PC dishonesty.

All people are different, and there are so many different areas of life where we can excel or fail or be average - so whilst I excel at foreign languages I am hopeless with anything mechanical for instance. I would expect to be considered superior to someone who has no foreign language ability but to be inferior to some capable with mechanics - but in those respective fields only.

Add in a million and one other human activities where each of us, if scored at them, would demonstrate comparative superiority or inferiority next to others, and what I believe we would find if we were to total up all the scores for each person for all activities, would be a hierarchy of overall, total ability which distinguished according to ability and performance, rather than gender or any other feature of the sampled people. Such a hierarchy would no doubt feature the ubiquitous bell curve in graphic representation - few at the lower end of scores, rising to a peak of normal ability and with few at the upper end.

However, that is not to say we should all not be treated equitably, regardless of who we are and what we might score.

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:14:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Are men and women equal? I dont think so; not all men are equal, and not all women are equal, so to say men and women are equal can make no sense and is PC dishonesty.


By equal, i meant that they should be treated the same way and the same respect.

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:36:21 AM   
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I have a problem with anyone who publicly states females are superior to males...and wants to keep males in horse pens.

Not healthy.To me that is a person who is seriously deluded.

I don't consider me having a "problem" with disagreeing with that.



Normally I don't agree with many people but in this case I think you should just leave this thread.

I think you have very big confusion issues as your a CD, who wants a female dominant, who wants to be a
matriach. ( however it is spelt ) yet you don't think the female is superior. Nor do I but I am not trying to look like one. Are you a CD for the humiliation side or are you really just wanting to be a female?

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:38:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Skier

Dianne, Ellen, etc....do you think it's worth hassling with him any more? 

sissify...I live in the Amherst/Northampton area. You say you're into BDSM, but I've never seen you in any of the clubs or groups  in our area.




Worth it? I find it all pretty funny and proves more points then you could imagine. I went to bed & woke up to pages of this. I'm just drinking coffee and laughing my ass off.


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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:40:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

I have a problem with anyone who publicly states females are superior to males...and wants to keep males in horse pens.

Not healthy.To me that is a person who is seriously deluded.

I don't consider me having a "problem" with disagreeing with that.


I know many a men who would give their right arm to sleep in my stall and eat with the pigs. In fact many men that would PAY me big money to do just that AND these men are considered pillars of society.
But I’ll admit that I am deranged. Terribly twisted and lost touch with the REAL world of bullshit, drama and facades. I’m a menace to society and therefore I’m going to head for the hills but I promise you this whole lot of people is going to follow me.
And listen tot pot calling the kettle black SISSY??? Some people would ask, “What the F*uck* happened to you?”
Now come over here and put this petticoat on. Its got pretty pink ruffles and I’ll teach you a song.



Rock On Dianna.. sissy boys dont have the right to complain. I'm as deranged and terribly twisted as you...Perhaps We can start a stable in the hills..full of "Crazy and deranged" submissive males who believe in Female Supremacy. Raise your hands and volunteer boys!!! Line up! The pied piper is here to lead you away!!


Yeah we'll create our own movement! Hell we don't need to do that. I have 30 acres. We just need a big wall and gate to keep the idiots out.


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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:43:43 AM   
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We dont expect men to bow down and Worship Us. We offer them the opportunity to better themselves at Our feet.





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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:44:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

Yeah we'll create our own movement! Hell we don't need to do that. I have 30 acres. We just need a big wall and gate to keep the idiots out.



damn it! excluded again

E

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:46:13 AM   
DiannaVesta


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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

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ORIGINAL: majidah
Females will always be the Superior sex as long as males like you aspire to be just like Us. Crossdressers are nothing but closet Female Supremacists. I know, I have a friend who wears panties.


Discussions about this topic often lead to a distinction between female superiority and female supremacy. One reason the two are sometimes interpretted interchangably is because some female supremacists believe the superiority is why the supremacy should exist.

Do you feel women are superior to men in general? If so, I am curious what your criteria is to determine whether one person is superior to another.

Cheers,

Sea


I think if anyone truly interested should do a forum serach on this. We've beat this drum over and over. There were some good replies and definitions on how many of us feel.


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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:54:18 AM   
DiannaVesta


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

Yeah we'll create our own movement! Hell we don't need to do that. I have 30 acres. We just need a big wall and gate to keep the idiots out.



damn it! excluded again

E


No you can come. Hop on a plane I'll pick you up


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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:56:47 AM   
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We would need to let atleast one idiot in ... after all every village needs one ;)

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 5:57:52 AM   
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We would need to let atleast one idiot in ... after all every village needs one ;)


I guess if I'm allowed in, I have to volunteer for that one!
E

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 6:04:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Morrigel

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve
No...


If its sexual ..thats one thing...


It's always sexual.  There is not a single documented case of which I am aware in which a female supremacist person or group has committed violence against an unconsenting individual, male OR female.  There is a lot of silly chest-beating and semi-satirical femme-supreme rhetoric out there, especially on the 'net--it is not "backed up" by a single rape, murder, beating or terrorist act.  So far as I can see, it exists entirely to inspire mutually pleasurable interaction between deeply submissive men and aggressively dominant women.

The same is true of Goreans, so far as I know.

Gee, can other so-called "supremacist" ideologies say the same?

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but when "supremacy" (Im better than you and you are scum) becomes an entire lifestyle (For either gender)

I think its wrong.


Please, go explain this to John Norman.

And to his followers, the people who enjoy the Gorean Lifestyle.  You know where to find them, on this site and elsewhere.

Until you do this?  You and EVERYONE on this site who whinges on about the Evils of Female Supremacy can characterize yourselves as nothing more that sexist hypocrites.

--M


*Applause

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 6:05:07 AM   
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Hehe Ellen ... nope you'd be better placed as the wise and all knowing knowledgeable guru  

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 6:07:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

Hehe Ellen ... nope you'd be better placed as the wise and all knowing knowledgeable guru  


why thank you! both for the compliment, and for helping me to locate that one last shred of modesty that I was sure I had left somewhere LOL!

E

edited to add - yes I am a right nelly-know-it-all! Know it?-yes, understand it?- well, maybe!

< Message edited by LadyEllen -- 11/13/2006 6:11:16 AM >


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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 6:15:31 AM   
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I gotta run now people - plane to Prague in 3 hours. How I'm looking forward to 3 days in the snow and ice..... not.

Have fun, be good - and if you cant be good, then dont get caught!

E

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 7:11:48 AM   
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General reply........ sissifytoserve has the right to post here, as much as anyone, so those telling him to shut up, or leave........... bullshit.
 
......... which is an appropriate word to describe supremacy of any gender or race.

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 7:28:54 AM   
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General reply........ sissifytoserve has the right to post here, as much as anyone, so those telling him to shut up, or leave........... bullshit.
 
......... which is an appropriate word to describe supremacy of any gender or race.


Whut?????? alright SISSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 7:34:12 AM   
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Here’s the bottom line…
  You manifest your own reality. This is the wonderful thing about life. As I have stated before “we are all tribes with our own cultures and traditions.” We gravitate towards others of like mind and together we share a common interest that bonds us.
  I have no desire to change the entire world to meet my agenda. That was never the purpose; however within my world I paint the picture that best suits me. Female Supremacy, for me is about balance, my spirituality which is a combination of goddess spirituality, matriarchy and metaphysics. It’s about love and teaching the male to love better. Our planet has suffered through the ages and this is a way to help restore true balance via extremes. Don’t let the word supremacy fool you. Like BDSM is a buzz word it brings up images of blood and guts, abuse and violence. You know different because you were able to get beyond the words and to the essence of its meaning. Its an umbrella that blankets so many things all which are personal to each person.
  The word invokes emotion. That’s what its suppose to do. You have a choice to investigate why it makes you feel the way you do or to walk away.

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RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy - 11/13/2006 7:47:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta

Here’s the bottom line…
You manifest your own reality. This is the wonderful thing about life. As I have stated before “we are all tribes with our own cultures and traditions.” We gravitate towards others of like mind and together we share a common interest that bonds us.
I have no desire to change the entire world to meet my agenda. That was never the purpose; however within my world I paint the picture that best suits me. Female Supremacy, for me is about balance, my spirituality which is a combination of goddess spirituality, matriarchy and metaphysics. It’s about love and teaching the male to love better. Our planet has suffered through the ages and this is a way to help restore true balance via extremes. Don’t let the word supremacy fool you. Like BDSM is a buzz word it brings up images of blood and guts, abuse and violence. You know different because you were able to get beyond the words and to the essence of its meaning. Its an umbrella that blankets so many things all which are personal to each person.
The word invokes emotion. That’s what its suppose to do. You have a choice to investigate why it makes you feel the way you do or to walk away.


Too many haters (fearers) equate fem suprem with evil, condeming of males and all other negative presumptions. It aint so.  Fem suprems are lovers of tolerance, pride, unity, empowerment ectera.
Excluding the internet freak sites which of course are not the same as yours and other fem suprems on here.

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