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Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 5:12:00 PM

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I have a Dilemma...
I like men... Love men... Prefer my men dressed well or casual, but always as men.
I like it when a man presents himself that way to me, but I get a huge rise out of humiliating a man who's not big on Feminization by making him wear lingerie/panties, etc...
I'm turned off when subs email me and they are in full "ridiculous looking (frilly)" female gear or have a strong feminization fetish, because to me he looks like a woman and that is not sexually exciting to me, plus is it really humiliation if he loves it?

Is this contradictory? Am I strange (yes, I know I am) in wanting things this way? Is it unreasonable that I like it kind of is forced this way... M

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 5:57:54 PM

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I would not think that is strange. How can it be humiliation if the submissive enjoys cross-dressing? Personally I enjoy the way certain males look when cross-dressed but not all of them by a long shot.

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 6:19:05 PM

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plus is it really humiliation if he loves it?

HAHAHAHA!!!! "Mistress, PLEEEEEEASE make me do EXACTLY what I want!!!!!"

Newp, never heard of the syndrome.

Not all CDs are humiliation sluts. There are as many reasons for dressing as there are men (and women) who want to.

Same thing with humiliation, it's a different animal to different people. The dressers that I know are my friends, some of them even serve me. CD isn't really my fetish, but I share it with people I love who's fetish it is and that's a kick for me.

I have a dear friend who dresses and he and I both dressed one night for a party in NYC. He was dressed in formal wear (black sequin floor length number, if I remember correctly, with high heel pumps) and I had on leather pants and real tuxedo tails worn over a black lace corset with a red cumberbund and matching bowtie. I wore a top hat, hair down, make up in place, and a moustache. Because we expected to be out late we opted for a hotel in the city. He booked room at a hotel in the business district - for a friday night in the summer. The place was a tomb and we couldn't get a cab so we ended up walking about 10 blocks (some of which were cobblestones - how's that for sadism?) before we got a cab. We passed beat cops, cars full of cruising guys, streets torn up due to construction, etc., and eventually got a cab. The cabbie was into and went along for the ride so we talked about how long "me & the little mrs.' had been together, how many kids we had, how I was just a philandering womanizer, but she loved me anyway. I tried to flirt with the women in the cabs next to us at red lights but alas, their asses were too tight. The guys in the locksmith van, however, were a lot of fun for a number of blocks.

That was a wonderful evening. The entire night was magic and laughs (this gentleman had NEVER been on the street dressed before). <shrug> Dressing isn't really my thing but this was one for the memory books. I may put it in my memoirs. hahahaha

Yup, sometimes even the things you're not into can be fun if the company is good.

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 6:34:28 PM

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I have a Dilemma...
I like men... Love men... Prefer my men dressed well or casual, but always as men.
I like it when a man presents himself that way to me, but I get a huge rise out of humiliating a man who's not big on Feminization by making him wear lingerie/panties...
I'm turned off when subs email me and they are in full "ridiculous looking (frilly)" female gear or have a strong feminization fetish (because to me he looks like a woman and that is not sexually exciting to me, plus is it really humiliation if he loves it?

Is this contradictory? Am I strange (yes, I know I am) in wanting things this way? Is it unreasonable because it kind of is forced this way... M

M - You and I have this in common. Most of my boys are extremely manly in appearance and in mindset. Then again, most of my girls are very feminine. Then again, what is a boy and what is a girl? If one identifies as a girl, then she is girl, even is she was born in a male body.

I have the hugest kick out of making a really manly man wear panties under his suit when we go out for dinner. I get less of a kick out of doing it to a femme boy. I tend to humiliate him by telling him to act like a man. To me the point of humiliation is to get someone to get in touch with their other side. So if a boy is really femme, I get him in touch with his masculine side and if a boy is really macho, I get him in touch with his girlie side.

I actually had a female sub once who was very tomboyish and I used to put lipstick and short skirts on her and teach her to walk in heels like a girl. That was very humiliating for her. The only times I don't play these games with someone is when I know that they have major issues with gender identity and that this kind of play would do more harm then good.

- LA

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 6:56:30 PM

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plus is it really humiliation if he loves it?

HAHAHAHA!!!! "Mistress, PLEEEEEEASE make me do EXACTLY what I want!!!!!"

Newp, never heard of the syndrome.

I have a dear friend who dresses and he and I both dressed one night for a party in NYC. He was dressed in formal wear (black sequin floor length number, if I remember correctly, with high heel pumps) and I had on leather pants and real tuxedo tails worn over a black lace corset with a red cumberbund and matching bowtie. I wore a top hat, hair down, make up in place, and a moustache. Because we expected to be out late we opted for a hotel in the city. He booked room at a hotel in the business district - for a friday night in the summer. The place was a tomb and we couldn't get a cab so we ended up walking about 10 blocks (some of which were cobblestones - how's that for sadism?) before we got a cab. We passed beat cops, cars full of cruising guys, streets torn up due to construction, etc., and eventually got a cab.

Yup, sometimes even the things you're not into can be fun if the company is good.

LOL, thanks Suz,
That is a great story for humiliation and sadistic purposes...
I thank you, and will remember to be open to trying it out. M

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 7:23:31 PM

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M - You and I have this in common. Most of my boys are extremely manly in appearance and in mindset. Then again, most of my girls are very feminine.

I don't play these games with someone is when I know that they have major issues with gender identity and that this kind of play would do more harm then good.- LA

Thanks LadyA for that perspective, I haven't met anyone who said "absolutely not" to the feminization thing, but will keep it in mind. M

Thanks GentleLady, I agree, it just isn't much fun for me if he's all into it already before I even suggest it, unless it's at a time he's begged... M

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 8:26:25 PM

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quote:

I like men... Love men... Prefer my men dressed well or casual, but always as men.
I like it when a man presents himself that way to me, but I get a huge rise out of humiliating a man who's not big on Feminization by making him wear lingerie/panties...
I'm turned off when subs email me and they are in full "ridiculous looking (frilly)" female gear or have a strong feminization fetish (because to me he looks like a woman and that is not sexually exciting to me, plus is it really humiliation if he loves it?

M

I'm with you on this. I've received pics of that nature more times than I care to. I've ever received those pics on collarme. It's just not as much fun for me if I know the person is coming to me with his own script for how I should make use of him. Feminity doesn't turn me on uless I'm really forcing the man to be in that mode.

Rosa

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/7/2005 9:32:55 PM

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Feminity doesn't turn me on uless I'm really forcing the man to be in that mode.
Rosa

Thanks Ms Rosa...
Thanks everyone for your replies...
The thought I was having was about him consenting to what I enjoy, while still making it enjoyable for both of us; in this case if he's enjoying it too much, I simply am not. M

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 1:18:29 AM

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cross dressing is one fetish

humiliation is another fetish

put the two together and you
have people in clothes they
would not normally or comfortably
wear feeling degraded while
You are absolutly thrilled.

there are many forms of cross dressing and
simply having a manly man wear a dress is
not the only options to humiliate. There is the
baby diapers, pony attire, chicken suit to name
a few that even a manly cross dresser might
feel humilated in wearing. keep all these things
in mind as to just what type of humiliation gets
You off.
here is a site You will absolutly adore and it can
be a wonderfully humiliating enjoyment to watch
the slave both crossdressed as well as being
humiliated by commanding actions You feel are such
and addresses both issues addressed here in this post.
Enjoy giving My chicken its commands!
http://www.subservientchicken.com
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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 1:37:08 AM

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*huge grin*....I have that site in My favourites and have sent a few unsuspecting people there....thank You for reminding Me of it

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 3:34:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
The thought I was having was about him consenting to what I enjoy, while still making it enjoyable for both of us; in this case if he's enjoying it too much, I simply am not. M

Perhaps it is possible to find find something he enjoys and humiliate him (to satisfy you) at the same time. You might consider expanding his limits by finding out his natural comfort zone and have him do things that are just outside of that zone. For example, going out in public cross-dressed or having him buy clothing for himself and use the male dressing room (make sure he shows his items to the clerk) or go to the nail salon and get a manicure.

Find his fantasy that he dare not turn into reality... and have him do it. He can always invent some excuse about a party or losing bet in case he needs a cover story... or maybe you don't want him make excuses.

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 6:50:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD
cross dressing is one fetish

humiliation is another fetish

put the two together and you
have people in clothes they
would not normally or comfortably
wear feeling degraded while
You are absolutly thrilled.
There is the
baby diapers, pony attire, chicken suit to name
a few that even a manly cross dresser might
feel humilated in wearing.
http://www.subservientchicken.com

Thanks for the info, but where in the world does one buy a chicken suit?
I'm so sure no man I've ever chat with has ever had to wear one, LOL.
That site is hilarious... M

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 6:58:23 AM

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Perhaps it is possible to find find something he enjoys and humiliate him (to satisfy you) at the same time. You might consider expanding his limits by finding out his natural comfort zone and have him do things that are just outside of that zone.
Find his fantasy that he dare not turn into reality... and have him do it. He can always invent some excuse about a party or losing bet in case he needs a cover story... or maybe you don't want him make excuses.

Thanks for the great ideas Chris...
Imagine your surprise if your Domme read this post, and MistressDread's LOL... Send us pictures if she does, will you? M

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 10:41:19 AM

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Imagine your surprise if your Domme read this post, and MistressDread's LOL... Send us pictures if she does, will you? M

You are welcome. And If I find a cross-dressed chicken suit, I will definitely post pictures.

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 11:18:33 AM

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Here's another angle some may not have thought of. I love the feel of feminine clothes on my body. I wouldn't mind at all if a woman made me wear lingerie all the time at home. I would love it. That being said, I am deathly afraid of going out in public dressed. I think it would be the most humiliating experience of my life. I guess my point is, you can humiliate a man that loves to crossdress by taking him out of his comfort zone. Another aspect of crossdressing that I have learned about most men. They, as I, feel a very strong urge to undress as soon as I've had orgasm. The domme that will make a man stay dressed after the excitement has worn off for him is the domme that has total control over him. A fetish is a fetish, unless it becomes more than the sub bargained for. This is just my opinion. I hope it helps.

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 11:43:17 AM

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OUCH

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 11:56:14 AM

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I never have cross dressed, but I know that laying next to a woman with nylons and silk and such things on, they feel good against your skin.They should make mens fashions out of these materials. Dave

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 4:31:41 PM

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I wouldn't mind at all if a woman made me wear lingerie all the time at home. I would love it. That being said, I am deathly afraid of going out in public dressed. I think it would be the most humiliating experience of my life. I guess my point is, you can humiliate a man that loves to crossdress by taking him out of his comfort zone. Another aspect of crossdressing that I have learned about most men. They, as I, feel a very strong urge to undress as soon as I've had orgasm.

Thank you...
This is good information, and I'll keep it for future reference.

Very funny Chris... I so am hoping the lady reads this, than makes you send us pics, LOL. M

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 5:37:33 PM

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Very funny Chris... I so am hoping the lady reads this, than makes you send us pics, LOL. M

Hey!! You are trying to get me in trouble! And I thought we were friends.

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RE: Question About Humiliation - 2/16/2005 9:39:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
Very funny Chris... I so am hoping the lady reads this, than makes you send us pics, LOL. M

Hey!! You are trying to get me in trouble! And I thought we were friends.

Hey I did say I got a rise out of this... Is it so wrong that I should get some entertainment from your potential humiliation? We're still friends,

, M

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