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How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 11:14:51 AM

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Not nude, naked. Nude is art. Naked is vulnerable. (Trust me no matter how vulnerable you feel, you are nude if the one you are with is sane.)

For instance there are three types of naked guys at my gym. Group #1 (which includes me) is doing something that requires clothes be taken off and will not hang around naked.

I noticed group #2 two years ago. It was the first game of football season. They claimed they had no games, but that was a chick that told me that. Local TV would cover the Patriots versus Bengals. The men’s locker room had the game. I watched some naked, but every commercial I got dressed a bit more. One Naked guy stood by the TV and leaned on it like Vanna White showing a vowel. During commercials he never got dressed. In a few days I figured it out. He was in group #2/ Group #2 is gay and advertising.

I noticed group #3 a few weeks later. By the bathrooms there are table with cribbage boards built into them. Even if I way into cribbage I’d want to put on underwear first. A old fat guy was not like me. I guess anything for a game of cribbage. He was a member of group #3. Group #3 just doesn’t care.

I bring this up because there is fourth group I didn’t mention. The guy so taken up by something he does not notice we’re all naked. I don’t know how many times I heard, “Hey, Joe! You going to Steve’s cook out?” Often Joe will answer back and good conversation is had in the shower. Sometimes Joe will just grunt because he remembers he’s naked and can continue the conversation when he has some clothes on.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 11:22:45 AM

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I love being naked. During the years we didn't have Race, I was naked all the time. When my kids were young, I was naked in the bedroom, and they always knew they had to knock. The US is the worse bunch of prudes out there :) If the powers that be felt we needed to be covered, we would have been born in bathing suits :)

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 12:31:10 PM

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Sandy, I don't understand why you would have your children knock first if you were naked in your bedroom? Is it because you understand like most Americans that nudity is not always appropriate? I have nothing against being naked. I enjoy it as well. But I was never be naked in front of my son except when he was an infant. And to me that is appropriate.
And for those of you who think nudity is always fine, go to the nude beaches in Europe and after you are grossed out by what you see there, get back to me.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 1:22:48 PM

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Sandy, I don't understand why you would have your children knock first if you were naked in your bedroom? Is it because you understand like most Americans that nudity is not always appropriate?

Actually, no Sir, I do not agree that nudity is inappropriate. My children were told to knock *if they didn't want to see mom naked* (and most young kids don't). I don't believe in forcing my views on my children, they have the right to decide if they do or do not enjoy nudity. But as my ex is and was a prude, they tend to follow his views on things like that.

I don't believe they are at all psychologically scarred from the few times they did *forget* to knock, and they were never embarrased because I was not embarrassed. However, I do remeber my younger sister being mortified when she accidently walked in on my mother when she was 7. My mother yelled at her and slammed the door. It was at that time I decided (and I was only 12), that I would never do anything to cause my children to believe that nudity was anything but natural. As I said, if the powers that be felt clothes were needed, we would have been born with them.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 1:24:50 PM

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Oh, on a side note Sir, my sons are 16 & 17 now, and they feel the fact that I read tarot cards makes me freaky. The knowledge that Master and I will swim naked after Race goes to bed doesn't seem strange to them at all.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 4:10:05 PM

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another definition: naked, not wearing clothes, nekkid, naked and up to NO good! hehehe

don't remember who told me that, but........

~rain~

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 8:49:00 PM

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Sandy, peeing is natural too. Should we all see that too?

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/2/2004 10:00:17 PM

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Actually Sir, you do lots of places. Ask any guy who goes into a public restroom with a bank of urinals. As guys drinking and fishing. Ask kids who pee on trees or write in the snow. It is the attitude that nudity is dirty that makes having a picture of your bare bottom child on a bear skin rug or in a tub child pornography these days. I still believe in general American's are just to prudish.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/4/2004 3:27:17 PM

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iwill, thank you for your amusing post! i was tickled by your observations.

As for me, i've always been one to like to leave something to the imagination. Unless i was told differently. Nice lingerie, white cotton T-shirt & a pair of cotton panties or even a mans dress shirt.

As for running around the home naked. Naaaa, things get in the way. LOL You get sweaty. Things splash and splatter. And when i go to the gym, i dress at home and then go back home to shower.

Don't get me wrong, i love the naked body. And find them beautifull to look at. But if i saw them every day. . . . . they wouldn't hold their same appeal.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/4/2004 4:04:30 PM

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feline, what things are splashing and splattering?

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/4/2004 5:55:22 PM

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I love being naked... If the powers that be felt we needed to be covered, we would have been born in bathing suits :)

I never quite got the hang of the "clothing" thing. lol I wear it, of course, and like feline, I enjoy those things that are silk and/or lace and feel sexy and seductive, but just love being naked, nude, au naturale, nekkid, whatever one wants to call it!

Regarding the children (lol I've actually read to the end of the thread this time) I've got grown sons, and my daughter who is now a teenager, and they've grown up knowing the difference between what is appropriate and what isn't, but comfortable with themselves and others. They are not going to come into my bedroom without knocking because if my door is closed that indicates I want privacy, not because I don't want anyone to see me unclothed. I'll walk through the house unclothed, or partially clothed, whatever.

My grand-daughter is four years old and she is the same way, and aware that nudity has its place. When there are guests, she is clothed. It isn't everyone's "cup of tea".

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/4/2004 6:39:13 PM

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Estring,

i was thinking along the line of household duties. Cleaning commodes, sinks etc. As well as cooking.

i didn't even mention the idea of if you own indoor pets. LOL

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/8/2004 7:21:56 AM

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Iwill,
I don't hang out at the gay bar naked. I do hang out at the gay bar though. I don't believe I've ever seen a naked person there.

I really don't hang out at the gym naked either. I do shower after a workout if I have the time. Or I'm just way too hot from the sauna. I can't say I ogle others so I don't know if they are ogling me. I notice men ogling more than females.
That bothers me. My body is not for others in my mind. It is but for one person. He can ogle all he wants.

As far as enjoying nakidity or whatever it may be called. I love it. I've been going to nudist organizations since I was a teenager. Each month after our munch we go for a nude jacuzzi soak. Didn't even think about it last weekend as I found myself naked on the front lawn..after going out for the paper. People who live next door to me soft of have to learn the fact I like to be naked. They may see a glance of me from time to time.
I love the fact I have no tan lines....well I guess what I'm saying is its all good.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/8/2004 7:28:04 AM

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I don't hang out at the gay bar naked. I do hang out at the gay bar though. I don't believe I've ever seen a naked person there.

haha Gloria, you reminded me of a time I once took a male sub into a gay bar. He was on a leash and I was dressed in full fetish regalia. He was a bit of a homophobe, although he would tell you he wasn't. The gentlemen who owned the bar usually worked the door and they were quite amused with my sub's predicament. I inevitably made him drop his pants and turn around for "inspection" for them. They ended up taking a pic of his cock. The place was packed out and he found the whole thing rather challenging. He'd tell you now that it is one of his fondest memories of our time together, although at the time it REALLY pushed his buttons.

Thanks for reminding me of that, I'd almost forgotten about it. <smile>

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/8/2004 9:46:32 AM

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I notice men ogling more than females.
That bothers me. My body is not for others in my mind. It is but for one person. He can ogle all he wants.

Hi Gloria,

How come it bothers you? Does your dominant mind other's ogling? Most every dominant I have ever been involved with at one time or another dressed me in a way to make SURE I was going to get ogled then took me out. They enjoyed watching other men looking, knowing that I was no one other's than theirs.

I was at Master's work last week. He was talking to a coworker who asked him if he had seen the blonde that was up $500 (he deals poker) at table 24. *you know, the one with big tits*. Master responded, *oh, you mean my wife?*

Getting guys to flirt with me and think of me as nothing but a dumb blonde has helped me win a lot of money in poker. Master loves me to win, so he would actually be more upset if I dressed to not get noticed, or didn't flirt at all than when I do.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/8/2004 12:13:47 PM

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How come it bothers you? Does your dominant mind other's ogling? Most every dominant I have ever been involved with at one time or another dressed me in a way to make SURE I was going to get ogled then took me out. They enjoyed watching other men looking, knowing that I was no one other's than theirs.

I was at Master's work last week. He was talking to a coworker who asked him if he had seen the blonde that was up $500 (he deals poker) at table 24. *you know, the one with big tits*. Master responded, *oh, you mean my wife?*

Getting guys to flirt with me and think of me as nothing but a dumb blonde has helped me win a lot of money in poker. Master loves me to win, so he would actually be more upset if I dressed to not get noticed, or didn't flirt at all than when I do.

Sandy,
You know a bit more about me than most who frequent this board. Only a couple other's know as much as you do. Each person may know a little here and there that you don't know as you know a bit more than they do. Make sense?

Anyway since you asked the question. I will tell you. Brief history about me. I am not a victim, I am a survivor. At the age of 4 I was molested. Hence..the way I know how to deal with abuse survivors. I know first hand what thoughts go through an abused person's mind. Aside from the fact I know how to treat them professionally as well.
People have asked me in the past, why did I allow it to happen. The only thing I know is because I did what I was told to do. Still do but in a much more limited environment than once was. As you've heard me say many times submissives are born. Not hatched on the pc because they were horny today and found a chat room.

When I was 11, I was a 36C. Nope not because I was fat either. I just developed rather early. Hence I stood out. I used to walk home from school and there would be a man sitting in his car watching all the little girls and boys walk by masturbating. Buck naked. Nope, he never bothered me. Never uttered a word. Looking back, maybe he did when he found the suitable prey.
At 13 I fought off a rapist in my own bedroom. Fought and won. Intruder in the house. People used to tell me, whether truth of fiction. They would hear stories of someone from the outside looking in...the next day they were in. Well, hey it happened. I don't know if the guy was outside looking in or it was his first trip to my home.
Of course by the ripe old age of 13 I had matured enough to say nobody was taking advantage of me in any way anymore. By the time I was 21 and in the military. A woman in my squadron put her hands on me and came back with a broken arm. I had fully matured by then.

Suffice to say. I've lived through a lot. These incidents are only the tip of my iceberg. I've lived all of my life with men looking at me and ogling me. I can only assume it is because I've always had large breasts. They are only much larger now. In high school a kid broke another's jaw because I was talking to him. Talking. I had a boyfriend as well..a committed relationship at the time. My boyfriend was'nt either of the two fighting one another.

So, basically I've seen the ups and downs of people in general. Seen the good sides and the bad. Bodies are merely bodies to me. They change over time. We won't take them with us as they age and die. Why be so transfixed on them while we are here? It is the mind inside that really matters.

Sure, my Dom likes to know he has a desireable submissive. Little does he truly know just how desireable. People from the past who were trying to win me over still show up today from time to time. Still waiting. I am not going to put doubt in his mind when there is no reason in the world to do so. I know how to dress to drive him insane. That's really all that matters to me.

As far as using looks to make more money or get a leg up in my career. Yep, I've seen women do it in the past. Frankly I don't feel we should lower ourselves to that point.

However, if I were in a position where tips made up my salary you better well believe I'm going to use what I have. I have often thought(being the sun worshipper I am) going to a car wash and getting a job. Just part time, no it isn't my dream job. Just to see how many tips I could make in a day. Sports bra and shorts.

Yet in my career I have no desire and I don't feel sex appeal has a place. Am I contradicting myself yet? I don't get paid by tips I guess is what I'm trying to say. Those people I understand. Just not in my field.

I try to dress down no matter where I am going. Unless it is Doug and myself alone. He is 6'6 he can see cleavage where there is'nt any cleavage. So, no need to dress differently for him.

Anyway, now you have seen or heard part of my life.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/8/2004 6:20:35 PM

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even a mans dress shirt.

- feline

Do you know how hott a woman in a man's shirt (and nothing else) is?

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/8/2004 6:45:36 PM

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I notice men ogling more than females.
That bothers me. My body is not for others in my mind. It is but for one person. He can ogle all he wants.

- Gloria

I see you feel the photons reflecting off of your body belong to you.

Oh, before anyone says you'd feel differently if a guy ogled you, let me tell of when I was.

First let me explain about the showers at the gym. Women's locker rooms might be different. Think of a tiled room with five showerheads coming out of a wall.

In Massachusetts someone using a public pool must shower first.

I had exercised and needed a shower. My Mistress at the time had me in chastity, but no device. (Hey, I got some self -control

) It was the third week. (Although that is at the edge of the self-control.

) It was always partially erect. Think not pointing down like totally flaccid or up like totally erect, but horizontal.

It was empty. I used shower head #1. He came in and a hetero would have used #5. He used #2. He didn’t try to be cool. He openly stared, hoping we’d “click”. He complimented me on my penis. I told him my girlfriend liked it. (I hoped that was clue enough that I was not gay and this would not end as he hoped. Foolish me.

)

He told me that she was falling down on the job. (Like I’d say, “Your right, studmuffin, blow me .”

)

I turned the hot water off and made a point of finishing my shower. (No @#$#%&%$#@ guy is going to drive me away!

)

I do not own the photons reflecting from my body. If some moron likes them am I going to start wearing a burka to protect myself from his lascivious hoarding of MY photons.

I say to you what I tell anyone who doesn’t want to be ogled. Buy a burka and be careful you never show any ankle.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/8/2004 7:25:00 PM

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I notice men ogling more than females.
That bothers me. My body is not for others in my mind. It is but for one person. He can ogle all he wants.

I like guys oogling me and so does my Master. I think it makes Him proud and I take it as a compliment especially at my age. I am 57 btw.

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RE: How do handle being naked? - 5/9/2004 2:10:35 AM

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proudsub,

I think I speak for many men. If you want to be ogled, I'll be happy to oblige.

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