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Too small? - 11/22/2006 4:59:38 PM   
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I am not a virgin. Just recently, (yesterday to be exact) I had sex with a guy.  For some reason my vagina was very tight, and I didn't have a very pleasant experience (I did like it a little,...but...) anyway, i was wondering why that happened? I am active and I workout a lot,..could this be a reason why?

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RE: Too small? - 11/22/2006 5:39:27 PM   
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Might have been in need of some lubricant? Or it may be that you weren't relaxed enough, and your muscles were "squeezing" down. And yes, it is possible that it has to do with working out, if you're working the muscles "down there"...

*shrug* Just a few guesses; i don't know, really.

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RE: Too small? - 11/22/2006 5:42:30 PM   
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i was too relaxed,..i never am...i didnt need lube either,..i think it's the exercising...

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RE: Too small? - 11/23/2006 5:51:30 AM   
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quote:

i was too relaxed,..i never am...i didnt need lube either,..i think it's the exercising..


Please explain what you mean by "too relaxed"?  It is unlikely that any common exercise workout would cause tightening of either of the two sets of muscles around the vagina.  The muscles of the vaginal entrance are not involved in any leg movements and those of the pelvic floor (levator sling) located about midway up the vagina are also spared in most exercies regimens.  In gynecology we recommend specific exercises called Kegel's to strengthen the muscles of the pelvic floor after childbirth or in cases of pelvic relaxation.  It is far more likely that on some level you were not as receptive as you thought you were to intercourse. 

The only other possibility would be if he were substantially larger than your previous sexual partners.

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RE: Too small? - 11/23/2006 8:22:13 PM   
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I've experienced this with the same man, wehere neither of our bodies had really changed, and it was all in the positions...there's ones that are very comfortable and ones that can be very uncomfortable also.

My guess from what you've ruled out already; you were just in a position that doesn't work best for you.

Aparently some infections can make sex painful/cause discomfort, so obviously check that avenue as well with your gynecologist if you were in a position that'd always been enjoyable before, best luck.

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RE: Too small? - 11/23/2006 10:04:56 PM   
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It could be the position, it could be what time of the month your cycle is on, it could be just a weird body glitch.

For me it's often because I haven't had anything inserted in a few days- I have to get my body re-adjusted to being used like that.  Just like any muscle group.

Sorry you had a bad experience, why didn't you ask to stop and try a few different ways to make sure you had a good one?

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RE: Too small? - 11/24/2006 3:45:08 AM   
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I agree with the others; relaxation is probably the most key issue, seeing as how it was your first experience.  You might also try a different type of lube, sometimes that helps.  However, it could be that you're built a little smaller/tighter in that area - I know that I am.    

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RE: Too small? - 11/24/2006 4:04:33 PM   
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Maybe not enough foreplay? 

When a woman is aroused enough, her vagina becomes 'tented'.  Oftentimes, even if you've had quite a good bit of foreplay, your vagina still isn't tented and ready to accept the penis.  When your vagina isn't tented, the cervix, and the back wall of the vagina are very close to the vaginal opening.  When your vagina IS tented, the cervix and back wall pull back, leaving your vagina with more room to accept a penis, even a very large one.  Make sure you are REALLY aroused before having sex, and maybe have him give you a clitoral orgasm or two beforehand with a vibe or with his mouth or fingers.

Here are some diagrams of the difference:

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RE: Too small? - 11/24/2006 5:22:42 PM   
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I think the diagram says it all. Other than that...try again and hope for a better time.

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RE: Too small? - 11/25/2006 5:13:36 AM   
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I think everyone's body is different for starters...Sex is always tight with me (blushes) and I thought after four kids I would loosen up a bit (laughs)...foreplay does play an important role in comfort level..

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RE: Too small? - 11/25/2006 5:20:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Renorei
Maybe not enough foreplay? 

I was going to suggest the afore mentioned relaxation and lubercation but your illustrations seem to be very informative. I have had the experience of  "bottoming out" before with a partner before. I might suggest a different position such as doggie style as it does offer the deepest penetration and allows for a multitude of activities while copulating such as fondling, clitorial stimulation, gspot arrousal, spanking, grasping of the hair by the scruff of the neck ect. Shees...I better go take a cold shower...just kidding... ;)

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RE: Too small? - 11/25/2006 10:57:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Renorei

Maybe not enough foreplay? 

When a woman is aroused enough, her vagina becomes 'tented'.  Oftentimes, even if you've had quite a good bit of foreplay, your vagina still isn't tented and ready to accept the penis.  When your vagina isn't tented, the cervix, and the back wall of the vagina are very close to the vaginal opening.  When your vagina IS tented, the cervix and back wall pull back, leaving your vagina with more room to accept a penis, even a very large one.  Make sure you are REALLY aroused before having sex, and maybe have him give you a clitoral orgasm or two beforehand with a vibe or with his mouth or fingers.

Here are some diagrams of the difference:

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I have never heard of anyo fthis tenting business and I am an RN and have 6 kids

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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 2:55:09 AM   
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candle- don't feel bad, i am board certified in Ob-Gyn and not only have never heard of the phenomenon but cannot imagine the anatomic and physiologic mechanism that would allow it.  The only remotely muscular structure attached to the uterus or upper vagina is the round ligament which has only a few muscular fibers in it and the levator sling and the angle is all wong for it to "tent" the vagina.  Someone please provide a medical text that might explaini this to me.

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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 6:51:38 AM   
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Medical Text?  I don't know if I can find one of those, but maybe these links will help:

http://www.herballove.com/article.asp?art=50

http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.php?id=27144

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2006/mar/14/yehey/life/20060314lif7.html

This seems to be related, though not exactly what I was talking about:
http://www-psych.stanford.edu/~knutson/ans/faix02.pdf



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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 10:28:01 AM   
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The only reference I found on google images came up when I used the search "vaginal tenting".  It was a pretty funny website of some foreign doc trying to give sex advice and selling vitamin and herbal products like "Heat Tea". LOL

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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 10:42:38 AM   
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The original diagrams that I posted of the process of vaginal tenting came from penissizedebate.com, but we aren't allowed to post images directly on the forums (not sure why), so here's some links:

http://www.penissizedebate.com/images/doc/vagina_relaxed_mid.jpg

http://www.penissizedebate.com/images/doc/vagina_tented.jpg

Here's the page these diagrams came from:

http://www.penissizedebate.com/page18_penis-length.htm


This particular website is mostly a bunch of baloney.  If this were the only place I'd ever heard of vaginal tenting, I wouldn't believe it.  But the process is mentioned on lots of other sites as well, and some of them are quite reputable. 

Unfortunately, this site is the only site where I've ever found diagrams.  Anyway, you can believe that it happens, or you can refuse to believe it.  Either way is fine with me.  But I personally have noticed this happening in my own body when I was doing some solo experimentation one day, so I'm especially inclined to believe it. 

Either way, whether or not vaginal tenting actually happens I think we can all agree that more foreplay is always a good idea. 

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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 10:53:55 AM   
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Skarredwolfpuppy wrote: "I am not a virgin. Just recently, (yesterday to be exact) I had sex with a guy.  For some reason my vagina was very tight, and I didn't have a very pleasant experience (I did like it a little,...but...) anyway, i was wondering why that happened? I am active and I workout a lot,..could this be a reason why?"

Frankly, I am a bit shocked at the responses from an RN and  Ob/Gyn people.      
 
Skarredwolfpuppy, rest assured that this person perceives how truly unsettling this must be for you. Indeed you seem to have a problem, but problems can be solved.      
 
There appear two possibilities here. One is an odd one, and rarely seen, and I doubt that this is the case here. It is  possible especially with a virgin (which you are not) with an intact and formidable hymen who attempts to have sex enough times with her partner such that the urethra, (believe it or not) can start to stretch such that the guy  thinks he’s trying to enter your vagina but isn’t. Pain will always be the result.  
   
The other reason is much more common, and by looking at your  name may be a factor. Your name could have dual meanings, “Scarred wolf puppy,” or “Scared wolf puppy.” Either scarred (as in having experienced sexual trauma of some sort) or “scared” as in frightened; both connote tension,  
and both can cause vaginismus. Vaginismus is a reflex reaction wherein the pubococcygeus muscle, also called the PC muscle tightens either involuntarily, too soon, or with too much force for too long a time.  
 
No amount of exercise of the normal sort could create this condition, in my opinion. As any muscle though exercise will cause it to strengthen, and for instance, a young girl, who has been told that intercourse is painful, might find herself involuntarily tightening this muscle in an isometric way, and over time it may become quite developed, as for  instance the biceps of a weight lifter might.   
 
Yet the most overdeveloped muscle still would not be a problem. What would be is the involuntary contraction at the onset of the insertion of the penis into the vagina. Imagine your hand clenching a carrot. Now imagine that that carrot swells, and yet you cannot relax the muscles in your hand. Now imagine that the hand stays clenched far too long--the result would be pain.  
 
I would suggest looking to your past experiences since you are not a virgin. Were they gratifying? If so, has some traumatic experience occurred  
since then that might cause apprehension or fear, or anticipation of something  negative? (Please do not answer these questions in forum.)  
 
Check out this site, and/or do some research on vaginismus:  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginismus  

You would be well advised to consult a medical practitioner  to make sure that there is not a physical reason. Once confirmed that all is right physically, you could try many things including psychotherapy. If this does not suit you, consider that perhaps your partner might be willing (and may be rather turned on by the idea) of utilizing some dildos, starting with very skinny ones, and moving up as your pleasure and needs dictate. Any dominant, or any person, for that matter should be willing to take as much time as you need.  
 
And consider too, that if your situation is caused by vaginismus, when you do learn to relax it appropriately, your partner may be immensely pleased at the way it tightens as a orgasmic response.  
 
I hope that this might be helpful and that you find joy in your sexuality…a good cunt is a nasty thing to waste! (Sorry, the devil made me say that—darned devil!)  
 
S

Oh, by the way...that weird site is weird, however within it there are some rather remarkable, and correct observations about human sexuality....check out the "crowning" of a male's glans penis as a sign of optimal penetration, as well as correct observations about how the vagina and penis can relate to each other internally.


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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 11:56:06 AM   
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Vaginismus is NOT the same thing that these whackadoos are claiming is "vaginal tenting."

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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 12:27:42 PM   
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No offense to the healthcare professionals or anything, but just because you aren't familiar with vaginal tenting doesn't mean I'm a "whackadoo". 

I'm not claiming that I am most definitely right about this.  It's very possible that the multitude of websites that I have visited about this bodily function were completely wrong and that it doesn't exist. 

But...just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 

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RE: Too small? - 11/26/2006 12:43:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Renorei

No offense to the healthcare professionals or anything, but just because you aren't familiar with vaginal tenting doesn't mean I'm a "whackadoo". 


I was referring to the website that I'd previously mentioned -- the foreign doctor-type guy offering sex advice and selling herbal teas -- not YOU personally.

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