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twicehappy -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 5:04:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LRODANDMASTER You'll find that people here have disdain for anyone who capitalizes EVERYTHING when they post. Only because we all know your secret super hero identity, lmao......

mnottertail -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 6:30:49 AM)
I have went to internationalcore.com and while I agree that people are preyed on constantly when it comes to car parts, I don't think it has as large an impact on the Kinkster world as first may be suspected............. Look at some of the nicks out here: ScooterTrash twicehappy (you may not readily see that this moniker is mechanically oriented, but it is somewhat obvious to me) Harley this and that, lotta peoples pictures standing by automobiles and that sort of thing. So, I fail to discern how the site has any value if you have to order car parts first. Help me out here, K? Ron

sharainks -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 6:31:12 AM)
I used to go to alt. I still go to Bondage at times. I don't think its news to anyone that the pay sites are in it for money and don't care about the members. To me any online site means that if you choose to meet someone in person you need to keep your wits about you when deciding who that will be. Imo the biggest danger to anyone online is making sure it isn't your own needs that are making you prey. I've seen way too many people shut off their brains when the come to the lifestyle and accept people they would not have given the time of day in the vanilla world.

dasee69 -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 6:36:21 AM)
whats sad is most dont Know Alt, Bondage and collar are owned by the same people.. they just have different sites

mnottertail -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 6:45:19 AM)
And the tears should be streaming down my face because? How is it sad that someone could fill some part of a void in others as these sites do, regardless of some of their shortcomings............ Now I doubt CM owners are any relation to the other two sites, since they demonstrate a seriously competitive hink in their TOS about mentioning competitive sites, now, if that were the case, the filter in the email portion of this site would not complain about the word bondage I think. This conspiracy theory is to far past the actual envelope I think. Ron

sophia37 -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 6:50:07 AM)
The only thing that bothers me Savannah is when you say, "I post here, ..as a personal vendetta,". Thats just not right. And while I understand completely what it is to be personally damaged by outside forces, I wish that you had said you post here for another reason. Because, we all now know you have an axe to grind. And while yes, we ALL come to issues from personal points of view, and we skew those views to work in our own favor, I tend to listen more closely to people who come to the forum with a less than angry viewpoint. True, anger is a wonderful driving force. It has helped me innumerable times. And I will continue to use it when needed. But to come off as angry, will cause many of us to tune you out. So be careful here. You're treading upon a very thin line. And I say this out of good intentions not bad. So good luck to you. You seem very determined to find your way. And along the way you'll be having adventures you thought you'd nver be having. One of them is with ALT I guess. Vent until you can vent no more. It might be the only way for now I guess. Then start with a new train of thought.

MmakeMme -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:03:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail This conspiracy theory is to far past the actual envelope I think. Ron How many copies of "The Catcher In The Rye" do you suppose are distributed around the collective shelf?

mnottertail -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:12:46 AM)
Somewhere out there, beneath the pale moonlight .... I would not be surprised to learn that someone has the Hinckley copy et al (perhaps an Oswald copy) enshrined in their own personal Salinger museum. J.D.

mistresssavanna -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:38:12 AM)
Dear BT, My post comes of retaliatory, I suppose because this is My nature and I am an admitted rebel. I am an acquired taste and am very familiar with individuals who interpret Me in a negative light. Fortunately for Me, I am not in a popularity contest. Those who will question Me, in a respectful manner and allow Me to explain that which may be unclear, will probably become friends. Those who continue to read into, or misunderstand what I have to say probably will not. I can live with this. As far as omitting detail, I am more than happy to explain in depth, any aspect of what I have said here that remains unclear. I was removed from alt, under My old handle, for promoting a non commercial website that is designed to provide assistance to those in the lifestyle. Am I pissed? Sure, but it goes deeper than this. If My post seemed alarmist, that is because it was intended to be. Passive, nice talk does not get the attention of people who wish to bury their heads in the sand. I remain on ALT, not as a paid member and not to solicit for potential partners but to maintain a presence that many have come to rely on. The blogs are viewable without joining the site, so I encourage all to read them. I agree with you about the integrity of ALT. This is yet another reason I have written this post. The International Core is not for everyone. It is a group of individuals that observe the protocol of traditional lifestyle values, in addition to upholding the personal values of honor and integrity. Sure, this may sound like a candy-ass statement, and there are many players who will continue to be offended by My words, but, as I have done so in the past, and will continue to state My opinion, because there are many more that agree with Me than do not. Time will tell, yes of course. People are threatened by My very presence here and I expected this. I did not expect the level of hostility, (not from you), but again, I can deal with this. Please feel free to ask Me any additional questions you would like. Regards, Savanna

mistresssavanna -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:39:28 AM)
Dear tigress, Thank you. Regards, Mistress Savanna

mistresssavanna -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:48:41 AM)
Dear Fitznicely, I can elaborate, in great detail as to who is qualified and who is not. What particular topic would you care to discuss? The International Core was formed in March 2006. I do not find it surprising that you have not heard of us. I would imagine there are many who have not. If My post came off as to you, it is how you have chosen to interpret it. Nowhere, have I said that anyone's words would be picked apart. I think what you are demonstrating is paranoia. I am open to debate any topic in a civilized manner and do not attack other individuals for their beliefs. I observe My right to state My own. You are given the opportunity to observe and debate any imagined criteria you believe TIC stands for. One of the primary faults of society, and in the herd mentality is to attack that which they do not understand. If you have something to fear, it is within yourself. My offer to discuss any topic with you stands. I have, not once, been engaged in a civilized discussion with anyone, where I was not able to convey a message that made sense. Regards, Mistress Savanna

mistresssavanna -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:55:02 AM)
Dear Fitz, Clearly you are threatened by TIC. "What about those who haven't been mentored? What about those who have indeed gleaned their knowledge from books and online sources and who have demonstrated their RL competence with no support or mentoring? " Demonstrated to whom? I do not know a submissive that would wish to engage in medical play, for example, with someone who gained their knowledge from a book. True? This is word play. I am not going to engage in lines of discussion that are known "trigger" topics and lead to know productive conclusions. The group may come off as American to you because it is based in New York. You are more than welcome to speak with any of the UK members, or those from other regions on the globe. You are looking and you are reaching, but have yet to find a point I find to be worthy of any debate. Regards, Mistress Savanna

mistresssavanna -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:58:54 AM)
Dear orfunboi, The reality of the situation is that most ARE in it for the money. This, in itself is not a crime, nor should it be viewed as wrong. Contrary to what life demonstrates there are those individuals who do seek only to assist other people. Yes, they have operating costs, and even non profits do turn a profit. The employees are usually salaried. The International Core is run by entirely volunteers, and I Myself pick up the tab for most of the costs associated with the TIC sites. Regards, Mistress Savanna

mnottertail -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 7:59:31 AM)
Perhaps because the core of my posts are surrounded with random ronisms, the praxis of the matter was slid off the beam: I went out to that site, as well as I could make it out, for the purpose of research and edification, to make an informed choice on the matter, and set my own mind in the matter of where I should lay, and I got car parts. If you dare not post it here; shoot me an email on the other side so I may go have a look see, please. Ron

Fitznicely -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 8:36:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistresssavanna I can elaborate, in great detail as to who is qualified and who is not. I'm more interested in the criteria you base a decision on. quote: You are given the opportunity to observe and debate any imagined criteria you believe TIC stands for. This would come across as a gracious statement, if you had any power to stop me. quote: Nowhere, have I said that anyone's words would be picked apart. Indeed you did not, but you do state that maybe this forum could be a new home. Therefore implying that your cadre of self-proclaimed "guardians" are about to descend on us. The impact of this on our ability to have reasonable discussions is....at the very least....unknown. I'd say it is quite sensible to wonder about the situation when your opening gambit is a strident and swingeing statement of intent and vindictiveness. quote: My offer to discuss any topic with you stands. Thanks, I'll bear it in mind. I may have some questions for you in the future. Oh, and I'll decide when you start making sense. Dropping the hurt princess act would be a good start. quote: Dear Fitz, Clearly you are threatened by TIC. Believe me, honey, I'm not. quote: "What about those who haven't been mentored? What about those who have indeed gleaned their knowledge from books and online sources and who have demonstrated their RL competence with no support or mentoring? " Demonstrated to whom? I do not know a submissive that would wish to engage in medical play, for example, with someone who gained their knowledge from a book. Only an idiotic Dom would engage in Medical Play without being f**ing sure of what they're doing. Given that it is possible to learn the skills without being "formally" tutored, my questions were serious. quote:* True? This is word play. I am not going to engage in lines of discussion that are known "trigger" topics and lead to know productive conclusions. Ya got me. Kudos for not biting. quote: The group may come off as American to you because it is based in New York. You are more than welcome to speak with any of the UK members, or those from other regions on the globe. The group comes off as Ameri-centric to me because neither your website nor your forum (which I have joined and scrutinised) have any discernable mention of Britain. quote: You are looking and you are reaching, but have yet to find a point I find to be worthy of any debate. Congratulations on your grasp of the subtleties of condescension. I bet you kick ass at humiliation scenes.

sophia37 -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 8:41:01 AM)
I couldn't find The International Core on line either

Fitznicely -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 8:51:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sophia37 I couldn't find The International Core on line either www.visualboom.com Not very impressive, I have to say.

ModeratorEleven -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 8:54:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dasee69 whats sad is most dont Know Alt, Bondage and collar are owned by the same people.. There is a good reason why most people don't know this. It's not true. XI

Celeste43 -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 8:59:08 AM)
Obvious from her op that she's trolling for money subs. No wonder b.com wasn't her cup of tea. But she dried up her supply on alt? Now that takes work.

mnottertail -> RE: The Other BDSM Personals Sites (11/26/2006 9:01:55 AM)
I bet the site is owned by Lam, there is alot of football talk there............ Whip Gardenias, I like that................to protect and dominate............ Fighting Soldiers from the Sky; Fearless men, who jump and die....... I am not distressed nor impressed. Ron Good luck tho.

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