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RE: Diabetes - 12/7/2006 8:45:27 PM

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All no-carb diets, or diets that restrict carbohydrates induce a state in the body known as ketoacidosis. If you do any research at all on this condition, you will find that it can be very dangerous.

Ketoacidosis IS very serious and life threatening, but it is not what diets such as Atkins induce. Ketosis, as proudsub said ,is the condition they induce which is a completely different thing. I am not giving a pro or con opinion on low carb/no carb diets. Just pointing out that Ketoacidosis is not a goal of those diets.

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RE: Diabetes - 12/7/2006 8:57:58 PM

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Low-carb diets induce KETOSIS, which is completely different from ketoacidosis. Wikipedia says: Ketosis should not be confused with ketoacidosis, which is severe ketosis causing the pH of the blood to drop below 7.2. Ketoacidosis is a medical condition usually caused by diabetes and accompanied by dehydration, hyperglycemia, ketonuria and increased levels of glucagon.

I would hope you were not deliberately passing on misinformation. "Doctors" in chat rooms are not the only persons giving poor advice. Atkins does NOT delete carbs from one's diet, nor is the induction phase meant to be used over the long-term, but to "kick-start" the body's metabolism, and after that one is supposed to add more carbs in gradually.

My father has a golf buddy who's been insulin dependent for years, and after being on Atkins he was able to regulate his blood sugars and get off insulin. Now I'm not claiming that this would work for everyone, because everyone is different. I don't have diabetes, but my triglycerides were cut in half after 3 months on Atkins, and my cholesterol down by a third, sith the good cholesterol up and the bad down. My doctor, who was very dubious in the beginning, is now completely supportive after seeing my progress and following my weight loss and lab results.

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I would be cautious about fad diets such as he South Beach Diet, regardless of what "doctors" in a chatroom might advise you. All no-carb diets, or diets that restrict carbohydrates induce a state in the body known as ketoacidosis. If you do any research at all on this condition, you will find that it can be very dangerous. I am not telling you not to restrict complex carbohydrates, but just to be sure not to go to any extremes by deleting carbs totally out of your daily meals. The reasearch is out there. And, yes, The American Diabetes Asociation and the American Diatetic Associtation are wonderful resources for persons with diabetes. Good luck in your endeavors to lead a healthy life! I wish you well! You should do great.

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RE: Diabetes - 12/11/2006 7:20:33 PM

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To the diabetic people, what is the *normal* for sugar level????? My family doctor told me that i have to be below 7...like 5 or 6, but being the *smartass* i can be......i confronted him with this question: ok so why do you have a sign in the waiting room that says normal is 7, eh????

So is there anyone that can tell me what is normal, please?

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RE: Diabetes - 12/11/2006 7:57:04 PM

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andrea:

I think the test you are referring to is Hgb A1c. In which case the normal level is less than 7. This test is somewhat complicated to explain, but let me try. Glucose binds to hemaglobin. Hemaglobin is the pigment of red blood cells.Red blood cells live about 4 months. This test measures how much glucose has binded to hemaglobin and gives a 4 month " history" so to speak of ones blood glucose level.

There are various tests for blood sugar, the most common is a Fasting Blood Sugar < FBS > for initial diabetes screening. The normal range is 70-110 for this test. This is the accepted range guidelines of the ADA.

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RE: Diabetes - 12/11/2006 10:58:00 PM

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I am proud to say that my blood sugar stayed under 130 all day long...i had it down to 75 today and that is very good for me...alot of exercise and discipline

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RE: Diabetes - 12/11/2006 11:07:54 PM

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So i guess my HgB A1C test result of 4.9 was aok....(by the way my lab refers to the normal range as 4.5-6.0%, not 7.0)

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RE: Diabetes - 12/11/2006 11:49:54 PM

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Just if you're interested...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DiabetesandAltLife/

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RE: Diabetes - 12/11/2006 11:55:34 PM

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oh yeah.. here's another one.... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Simple_Diabetic_Recipes/

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RE: Diabetes - 12/12/2006 4:31:07 AM

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I have heard of that test last week from another doctor. When that result popped at 8, i was freaking out cause when i do the test with the machine at home, its usually around 5.2, 5.6. She explained something along those lines.

Thank you for the explanation

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RE: Diabetes - 12/12/2006 5:10:07 AM

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This site is quite informative. Feel free to check it out. There are recipes and ways to control diabetes. YMMV. http://www.nutricoach.net/

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RE: Diabetes - 12/12/2006 5:33:45 AM

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I have a good friend who is type 1 diabetic. I bake him treats with splenda so they are essentially sugar free, with the exception of the natural sugars in the other ingrediants such as fruit..etc. In all the recipes i simply replace the sugar content with the splenda. I make pies...brownies...and they taste great.
When i was in the experimental phase of this i would test the treats out on my kids...they never knew they were eating something that was sugar free.

Does anyone know if unrefined sugar affects diabetics any less than refined?

Krissey, i know what you mean about having the kids around. Whenever i was in the mood for something really bad for me, such as cakes pies or other junk food, i would eat a little...then tell them..."ok guys...please get rid of this for me...and save me from myself". (sigh...i do so miss my youngsters)

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RE: Diabetes - 12/12/2006 6:39:58 AM

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I think as diabetics we all are different and have to learn what foods affect us the most...For me...bread is a big no no...but fresh fruit rarely moves my sugar all that much so I eat alot of fruit where as my best friend cannot have fruit much but can eat more bread....it's like ruling out one thing or another..

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RE: Diabetes - 12/12/2006 5:33:46 PM

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This site is quite informative. Feel free to check it out. There are recipes and ways to control diabetes. YMMV. http://www.nutricoach.net/

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Thank you for the website, its quite interesting

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RE: Diabetes - 12/15/2006 4:39:53 AM

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This site is quite informative. Feel free to check it out. There are recipes and ways to control diabetes. YMMV. http://www.nutricoach.net/

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Thank you for the website, its quite interesting