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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 4:15:36 PM

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You asked what is boring about having the click of the mouse be so powerful (as it relates to money) -- for you, it appears, the money is the end all. To me, there is much more power in the manipulation of the masses by communication processes. Click a button, make $500,000 -- yay, then what? I'd rather be a part of changing the mindset of millions of people, raising millions of dollars for a charity or getting the word spread about an important cause or issue.

For me....money /investing is only a vehicle that drives me down the path of more freedom in the end game of personal pursuits. And I wouldn't say that investing by the click of a mouse is boring when you look behind at the research involved. When it all comes together, sometimes it's as easy and fun as spending a few hrs a week listening /watching something as simple as Lou Dobbs and then acting immediately. I always tie investing into trends, history, politics and current events

Depending upon how many hrs I work in a given day I can literally come in contact with many hundreds of people.....so investing is nothing close to my mainstay. But it sure does make it nice that when I'm spending a few hrs doing mundane paperwork I can take a short break do a little research and maybe add to my bottom line.

No AAkasha.....we sure can't take it with us, but a little extra juice sure makes life easier while we're here.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 5:45:12 PM

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I do have a few people who choose to hand over a portion of their income as a tithe rather than tribute for each session, but overall I have to agree with the other ladies - most of them are far too much work for the rewards. Since they aren't generally my favourite clients (possibly nice people, but not my faves) it can be exhausting to spend all the time they think they deserve to have spent on them.

Just my two cents.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 5:58:45 PM

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Still haven't had time to read everyone's posts, just came to see if this was still here or not, saw a thread with something about why is a financial fetish not acceptable and then in the first line or two something about it not being allowed on the site, figured I'd managed to fuck up on two of the TOS points within 2 days of being actively posting

Happy that, as of yet, this hasn't happened lol

Suspect it might though, so have to of course quickly check everyone's posts, and thanks to anyone who may or may not ever be thanked later in this thread due to it becoming nonexistant

I might have to read that TOS statement sometime, hmm?

lol

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 6:24:48 PM

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Dianna & AAkasha -- Thanks bunches, the two of you combined have probably covered the answers to more questions than I had even thought to ask and that's always fab for me, I love efficiency with my time, and thorough explanations

You know what's strange? For one who does identify in large part with something more powerful than just submission, to the point it involves the core of everything in the relationship -- I also identify a lot with some of the domme mentality/views...I wonder if most submissives would feel the way Hercuck did (-- not to point you out negatively either, I meant what I said when I told you I didn't mean any disrespect to your position on the matter, hope you don't take offense to being used in the example here) yet I believe there was another female submissive who felt there was nothing inherently wrong with financial domination in general but that she didn't want that for herself...maybe there's a tinge of domme in all women, even submissives?

Interesting thought...I wonder even if it's "normal" for submissives to want to wear the 'dominant hat' in roleplay for the fun of it being something else that's different from their truest core self?

My thoughts are getting too jumbled and I'm rambling, so I'll spare everyone, but did read all of the replies and very appreciative of the sharing that happened here and answering something aparently at least somewhat 'taboo'

Sorry I forget the screenname but whoever asked about the "vanilla" under their name, it changes with the amount of posts you make, the more you make, you will notice at whatever the designated increments that your title changes and also the pics there change...just give it time. Also you have very nice facial features...I was an art major, I notice facial features a lot, sorry if it sounds weird to hear from a total stranger lol

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 6:30:06 PM

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Timeout: Thank you for the compliment, it's not weird. Andd thank also for the info about the number of posts related to the name given. I'll have to post more frequently and get rid of that vanilla curse.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/3/2006 7:08:35 PM

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I know the frustration, I felt *accused* by it when I saw it, and didn't see many others with the same, so I figured they rated the profiles or something and mine wasn't "edgey" enough or something, all I could do was feel a little like Milhouse, "But my Mom says I'm cool!"

Lol

Then I asked about it, and voila, now I've passed the answer on

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/4/2006 2:04:21 AM

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Wow. Just... wow.

I need to thank everyone involved in this thread. I checked it out, mostly out of random curiosity(I'm addicted to these boards) and had no idea of what I'd find here.

I have to say, some of the comments here have made a serious impact on me. Especially thank you AAkasha and Goddess Diana Vesta. You are inspiring. And thank you Timedoutgirlie, for starting the thread and keeping the ball rolling with your 'silly' questions.

Just wonderful. I haven't felt my Domme yearnings this sanctified and uplifted in a long time. Maybe since I first really understood(and believed) that there were people who actually would _like_ me to take control, and to cause them pain. That those desires need not be repressed. You've put fresh wind in my sails, and at just the right time. And given me some powerful new perspectives to look at.

Thank you.

And Goddess Diana? You've got a new listener to your talk radio. Or at least a new reader of the transcripts. Possibly a new fan.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/4/2006 6:14:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lady Alaria

Wow. Just... wow.

I need to thank everyone involved in this thread. I checked it out, mostly out of random curiosity(I'm addicted to these boards) and had no idea of what I'd find here.

I have to say, some of the comments here have made a serious impact on me. Especially thank you AAkasha and Goddess Diana Vesta. You are inspiring. And thank you Timedoutgirlie, for starting the thread and keeping the ball rolling with your 'silly' questions.

Just wonderful. I haven't felt my Domme yearnings this sanctified and uplifted in a long time. Maybe since I first really understood(and believed) that there were people who actually would _like_ me to take control, and to cause them pain. That those desires need not be repressed. You've put fresh wind in my sails, and at just the right time. And given me some powerful new perspectives to look at.

Thank you.

And Goddess Diana? You've got a new listener to your talk radio. Or at least a new reader of the transcripts. Possibly a new fan.

This has been a good thread to read. I totally agree with you Lady Alaria. But I was wondering in your post, you mention the words take control and t6 cause them pain. I don't understand where the physical pain would be in financial domination? Maybe someone here could answer that? perhaps I'm just a clueless sadist?

Thank you,
Nina

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/4/2006 8:01:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Just be aware that when a man says he wants to "spoil" you (as a trophy giflfriend, domina, whatever), no matter how much he suggests that it's "no strings" or that you will be in control, it's not the case. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Men do not want to spoil a (random) woman unconditionally. This kind of affection you will only find in a relationship based on mutual love and respect; and, to be honest, that's the only way it's fulfilling and without strings. Men that flaunt cash or power as a way to woo a lady or insinuate they want to "spoil" you are overcompensating for shortcomings in their personality and/or want a woman they can control with money.

Akasha

This has been quite a long thread to read and I choose to reply to this post; from most of my previous experiences, I'd have to agree with all this. I still think that the above defines 99 percent of "subs into financial domination/slavery".
However, lately I have been experiencing something different and, at this point, I am kind of sorry my pet is no longer here as he has some really interesting views on this matter.
All I can say from my point of view, financial slavery & financial domination have nothing to do with tributes, gifts, fees, etc...

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/4/2006 8:40:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lady Alaria

And Goddess Diana? You've got a new listener to your talk radio. Or at least a new reader of the transcripts. Possibly a new fan.

thank you so much!

Timeoutgirlie Do you know that when I have had both male and female slaves and that the female slaves are ALWAYS in charge of the men? That’s right and they make excellent Mistress’s.

There is nothing wrong with want to explore any aspect of bdsm no matter who you are or what you base energy is. Its all about pleasure. In fact there are many dominant women that enjoy sexual submission at times, to be spanked or just get down and dirty. Even if I have a butch slave with one strapped on, on top of me fucking the daylights out of me, I am still the one driving the ship. I can’t really do this with bio-men, I don’t know why exactly. It may have something to do with female supremacy. Its not that I don’t like sex with men, I like CERTAIN types of sex, just a man on top of me feels really weird.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/4/2006 2:16:18 PM

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Lady Alaria & NINASHARP - Thanks a bunch for that, happy it's been a good read for you, and the ladies have all been great in here with answering the questions...I'm happy to heep the ball rolling

VampX - Thnaks for your reply, it is too bad yours isn't around, it would be great to hear from the other side of the financial domination, from any of the subs who enjoy it and their feelings about it. Maybe we'll still get some, on a site this large there's gotta be at least a couple

Dianna - That's interesting to hear, the female subs making good mistresses. Did they do that just on their own? Or it was being done with you? My partner knows I've dabbled before for fun with a past girlfriend, but she wasn't really "into" it in a lifestyle capacity, it was just for the kinky sex enjoyment, so it was never anything really extensive. I'm not sure I could do anything much past that, my domme-ly qualities aren't that refined

*giggles*

Interesting too about being able to enjoy another female with a strapon but not so much with a man. I never really thought about what it would be like to have sex with a man when you're a domme, I just assumed any who liked men for other activities also enjoyed the sex.

I don't know much about the female supremacy aspect, haven't made it that far in my reading of the forums...will get there with some more time though, and probably have a bunch of questions then too lol

Thanks all for the indulgence in the curiosity so far, very much appreciated and very interesting to read what's shared

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/4/2006 9:29:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: NINASHARP

This has been a good thread to read. I totally agree with you Lady Alaria. But I was wondering in your post, you mention the words take control and t6 cause them pain. I don't understand where the physical pain would be in financial domination? Maybe someone here could answer that? perhaps I'm just a clueless sadist?

Thank you,
Nina

Actually, nothing at all. 2 separate events. I said I haven't felt this uplifted since I got through my block on controlling and sadism. There was this great moment of AHA! When I look at it from that angle, all my problems just disappear.

The block this time wasn't related to financial slavery either, not directly. But it was related to money. And this thread was another great AHA! for me. Just another one of those "OH! Well, when you put it that way..."

My mind seems to like to create fictitious obstacles for me. No matter how much I've read sometimes, and how many facts I know about something, and no matter how much I even want something sometimes, some things still seem unfathomable until someone keys something deeper, and everything just goes -click-.

Now, if only there was a really good thread like this on humiliation. Maybe I'll start one, and played timedoutgirlie's role. Just keep asking people good questions until it clicks. Not tonight tho. Tireed....

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/4/2006 9:37:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie
Dianna - That's interesting to hear, the female subs making good mistresses. Did they do that just on their own? Or it was being done with you? My partner knows I've dabbled before for fun with a past girlfriend, but she wasn't really "into" it in a lifestyle capacity, it was just for the kinky sex enjoyment, so it was never anything really extensive. I'm not sure I could do anything much past that, my domme-ly qualities aren't that refined *giggles*

Interesting too about being able to enjoy another female with a strapon but not so much with a man. I never really thought about what it would be like to have sex with a man when you're a domme, I just assumed any who liked men for other activities also enjoyed the sex.

One of my most treasured sexual fantasies right now, that I will eventually work toward, is to find a very masculine, gorgeous sub who is very very pliable, or can be made so, and slowly over time teach him _exactly_ how I like to be pleased. The right moves, the right paces, all the energy, just right. My own little personalized Kama Sutra.

One of the neat thing about FemDom, is that it can be about you getting _exactly_ what you want. No matter what that might be.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/5/2006 2:07:19 AM

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LadyA - I think that may be exactly why my penpal here thought I should try my hand with domming, because I do like to get what I want. I've had the inner struggle with myself before about whether my submission was "real" or if it were another way of getting what *I* wanted -- then I decided i was overthinking it, and nobody would be submissive, dominant, or anything in between if it didn't afford them what they *wanted*.

It would surely be interesting to have a topic about humiliation. Will look forward to it

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/5/2006 3:53:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

Dianna - That's interesting to hear, the female subs making good mistresses. Did they do that just on their own? Or it was being done with you? My partner knows I've dabbled before for fun with a past girlfriend, but she wasn't really "into" it in a lifestyle capacity, it was just for the kinky sex enjoyment, so it was never anything really extensive. I'm not sure I could do anything much past that, my domme-ly qualities aren't that refined *giggles*

Its a natural chain of command. They help me and in doing that I'm sure there are aspects of their personalties that enjoy the control.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/5/2006 3:56:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lady Alaria

One of my most treasured sexual fantasies right now, that I will eventually work toward, is to find a very masculine, gorgeous sub who is very very pliable, or can be made so, and slowly over time teach him _exactly_ how I like to be pleased. The right moves, the right paces, all the energy, just right. My own little personalized Kama Sutra.

One of the neat thing about FemDom, is that it can be about you getting _exactly_ what you want. No matter what that might be.

There is no reason why you can't have it. You seem spiritually balanced and that foundation will set the platform for you to have many pleasures and true adoration. I am excited for you. I know exactly how you feel.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/5/2006 4:01:28 AM

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Dianna - Thanks, I think that's what he'd enjoy about it as well. Hasn't happened yet, feels a bit strange to have the one who controls me watch as I control another. I suppose it will happen when it's a natural moment, or he'll force me to do so if he gets tired of waiting on me *giggles*

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/6/2006 8:28:56 AM

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There are significantly less male gay/female gay/female hetero financial subs than there are hetero male financial subs. Why could that be I wonder? I cant figure out how it can make sense for only one catagory of subs to be into something different to such a greater extent than the others. Is there any other fetish which is predominantly indicative of only one catagory of submissive, for instance only female subs are crazy about spanking, or perhaps only male subs have a thing about worshipping feet? I cant think of one myself. I always thought that being sub/masochist was just that and entailed pretty much the same across the board in that you enjoy humiliation and pain etc with the only difference being what sex you are attracted to.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/6/2006 9:10:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: timeoutgurlie

Dianna - Thanks, I think that's what he'd enjoy about it as well. Hasn't happened yet, feels a bit strange to have the one who controls me watch as I control another. I suppose it will happen when it's a natural moment, or he'll force me to do so if he gets tired of waiting on me *giggles*

It’s actually a very sexy dynamic. You know I use to see quite a few couples and more often the wife would watch and I would get her to join in and help me. I can’t tell you how many times the wife turned to me and although dominant wanted me to top her with her hubby there together. As we evolved I would get her to top him and I would top her. It made for some interesting scenarios.

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RE: Financial Domination/slavery - 12/6/2006 11:54:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: Hercuckslave

financial domination = opportunistic, lazy, gold diggin', too lazy to work, low self esteem, money grubber.

just one slave's opinion.

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I happen to find this HIGHLY offensive, if a sub is willing to offer all of himself to me, including his money, who am I to turn that down? I do quite well for myself, and I am a proDomme, and I have had subs online that want nothing other than to send me money, to see me happy. If I choose to be involved with financial domination it does not mean that I am a gold digger, or lazy or have low self esteem, it's a choice I've made in my life. Just becuase it's not something you would be interested in doesn't mean that you have the right to insult the choices that others have made, if they as this, do not directly effect you.

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