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Najakcharmer -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 6:26:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

Only if I get to provide the coin.  I have a great double-sided one...

No way I'm gonna skip out on that kind of pain!


So it's a date, then?  Your blender or mine?  [:D]



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 6:29:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

LOL Benji could probably be convinced to flip the switch himself.


Hell, every day I convince myself not to!

Yours,


benji



defiantbadgirl -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 6:30:07 PM)

Funny. Seriously though.......all I wanted were some escape proof ideas.



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 6:33:44 PM)

Not tying him up will not let him escape.

"The best way to not get chased is to not run."

Yours,


benji



tetherboy -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 6:52:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

Can't remember how he was punished???  Either they didn't do a good job of punishing him, or he hated it and doesn't want it again so he's lying to you ...

Seriously, someone who is trying to get out of bondage doesn't want to be tied up - I dont' care what they say about "I need to know that I can't get out" ... if you want to be tied up, then why are you trying to get out of it, and if you aren't trying to get out of it then how in the hell do you know that you can?


I'm not sure how else to explain it. He throws down a challenge for me to tie  him up so he can't escape. I think of creative ways to tie him up. It never works and I get frustrated. He encourages me by saying better luck next time, but I still get frustrated.  Knowing he has tried and can't escape is what puts him in subspace. The few times he hasn't been able to get loose proved that. BDSM is about pleasing one's partner, right? I need more secure tie up ideas to keep him in subspace. I love the way he clings to me and will do anything I say once he's in subspace.


I notice a trend in the lifestyle where people sit around and discuss endlessly the way things should or shouldn't be between partners in a relationship.  My thing has always been - whatever works between consenting adults.  'Nough said on that topic.

Suggestions for some inescapable bondage:

-  link the bondage to his testicles in some fashion

This way he'll only have so much room to work in unless he wants to be in excruciating pain while trying to escape.  I would also suggest that you investigate methods to securely bind him to other things rather than just focusing on binding hand and foot, that sort of thing.  And maybe... just maybe.. you should bind him so tightly it cuts off the circulation.  Do you think kidnappers are concerned with the tightness of their bonds?  Nope.  They want their package SECURE.

-  employ LOTS of knots.. some dummy.. some intricate to the actual tie.  In fact, don't be afraid to make a total rat's nest out of some of the ties.  This will definitely slow him down.  Perhaps to get more enjoyment out of it yourself, set up a timer and consequences if he hasn't escaped by such and such time.

Hope some of these suggestions help. 



defiantbadgirl -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 6:55:32 PM)

Excellent idea. I think I will be making a trip to the store very soon to buy a timer.



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 6:57:02 PM)

While I agree with your statement "if it works, etc," it obviously does not work.

She's getting frustrated, he's not happy, and, if you knew her history that she shows here, she's got some other  dramatic issues as well.

Usually, we find out what's true and we call her BS.

Yours,


benji



SweetDommes -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:01:14 PM)

Tether - if it were working, she wouldn't be here asking for advice ... "'nough said on that topic," eh? 

And now, back to watching benji get some laughs ...



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:06:11 PM)

Hey, I'd love to, but it seems like it's all me in this thread.

Kinda tough to keep up entertaining converstaions with yourself, without the bum look, with underwear on your head, ranting about how the *mumble mumble* FUCK!!!!!  YOU, FUCK OFF!!!!  *mumble mumble*

Yours,


benji



theRose4U -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:06:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Funny. Seriously though.......all I wanted were some escape proof ideas.

GOOD LORD YOU DON'T READ!!! You've been given at least a dozen good ideas already.



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:09:09 PM)

Hey, if she took our advice, her threads would all be less than a page long.

And if she took our unspoken advice.....  Well, that's a topic for another thread entirely.

Yours,


benji



defiantbadgirl -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:09:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

While I agree with your statement "if it works, etc," it obviously does not work.

She's getting frustrated, he's not happy, and, if you knew her history that she shows here, she's got some other  dramatic issues as well.

Usually, we find out what's true and we call her BS.

Yours,


benji


There isn't a person alive who has never had a dramatic issue. I wonder how much BS you have caused for your dommes.



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:16:00 PM)

None.  Never had one.  Ironically, though, my initials are BS.

Now, the thing is, we all have issues in our lives.  However, it is how we deal with them that makes it into drama or not.

If I have problems, generally, I will go to my family, and either take their advice or shut up.  I don't tell half the story, entice random people to ask questions, turn around and tell a different story, not take the advice, complain about it not working, ask more questions, still not take the advice, ad nauseum.

That's drama.

The world at large does not care about your problems.  There is one person who actually cares about me.  That person is me.  Anyone who thinks others actually care about them is an idiot.  So take some personal responsibility and get over it.  We all have.

Yours,


benji



theRose4U -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:17:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
And if she took our unspoken advice.....  Well, that's a topic for another thread entirely.


Sorry me AND my psychic friends don't have enough energy for that job.



defiantbadgirl -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:33:45 PM)

Benji, I asked if anyone had ideas for escape proof tie ups. It seems like ever since I started posting on here, all you have done is look for reasons to insult. I have a hard time believing that you don't like drama. After all, don't insults create drama?



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:36:36 PM)

You have been provided with several.

As to drama, I have nothing against it.  I actually feel it's where I'm at my prime, then again, it's usually easy to score humour points during dramatic scenes, if you can handle the slapping.

I just choose to leave it to other people, and let them clean up the mess.

Yours,


benji



defiantbadgirl -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:46:07 PM)

So you create drama, then step back and let others clean up the mess. Very amusing.



gooddogbenji -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:48:44 PM)

No.  Others create drama, they let me feed it, I get my kicks, and then let the only person who can clean it up, clean it up.

You didn't read my post about personal responsability, did you?

Yours,


benji



Morrigel -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:50:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I always ask him if he can breathe when I gag him and I'd never leave the room for more than a few minutes even then. I thought of chains once. When I mentioned it, he said "Wouldn't those just fall off me?" I must be really lousy at tying and taping guys up cause I never seem to see any others with this problem. Does anyone know a fullproof way to tie a guy up where there is NO CHANCE of escape? I can't afford to buy a straight jacket.


Are you using hemp rope?  The first rule of binding an eel is always to avoid nylon.

You might also want to look into the tricks that Houdid himself used.  There are various ways to puff up your body or flex your muscles during binding that make your bonds much looser when you relax.  Houdini did this often in order to slip through cuffs, ropes etc..

When binding spread-eagle, face up is more inescapable than face down.  It is also more dangerous, especially with someone who is gagged--never walk away from a person you've tightly gagged.  You came back and found this one sitting on the couch--but you could just as easily have come back and found a sub suffocated to death this way.

And in general--if playing with an eel, and if the escape is part of his thrill--make him do it in front of you.  The best way to learn his tricks and counter-act them is to watch him escape.  He may be cheating in a dozen ways that you do not anticipate.

--M



Lordandmaster -> RE: help......my sub thinks he's Houdini (12/2/2006 7:55:50 PM)

My kinda girl.

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ORIGINAL: kittensangel

what ever happen to just stayign in postion and nto trying to get out, in my mind its for the master/mistresses to decide when it time to take off restraints, or be untied.



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