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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 3/2/2005 5:35:37 AM

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Well, I've always been a loner, but that was one of my flaws. The thing is I did need someone, I was just lucky enough to have it be a wonderful Woman that I love. But could I have survived alone? Yes, I survived Iraq I probably could have survived this. Am I better off that I found someone? Yes, I did need someone to tell me to get help, I'm a very sane person, just with some skeletons*chuckles*. Does being alone mean without a significant other? No, it could be a friend or anyone that you are willing to confide in. There is always hope, always a reason to fight. Fight on, Fight hard, never give up, and stand strong.

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/16/2005 2:58:29 PM

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Don't try to be a savior or a rescuer. No matter how much you may want to, you can't be. Learn about the person. Learn about the condition. Try to help as much as you can but be aware that there will be times when the best help you can give is in listening and caring.

In such a situation, I would also want to maintain the course and order of my own life, so that I could offer a fully realized relationship with a stable partner. In other words, I would hope to be a source of stability rather than chaos in her life.

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/17/2005 6:47:43 AM

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Ok, I have to live with mental illness, so here's a couple of thoughts.

Mentally ill people are, on the whole, not something to be avoided, afraid of, or otherwise discriminated against. It is an illness, like.... like cancer is an illness. It eats away at you inside, but it doesn't mean you're going to die, and it doesn't mean anyone else can catch it, or that you're any less of a person because of it. What it DOES mean, is that any significant other needs to understand and support you - NOT resue you, as has been said, you can only help someone who is already doing their utnmost to help themselves, and the best help comes by way of accepting. I hate it when people try to pretend it doesn't exist.

I think the person who spoke to you did you a favour by telling you straight off about their condition. It takes courage, cuz we're always aware people might back off after hearing it. And if you really can't deal with it, its important to say that straight off too.

Respectfully.
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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/18/2005 12:21:35 AM

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For those that may not know, there are two variations of 'bipolar" known as Type 1 and Type 2. Type 1 is rather common and often mis or not diagnosed. Symptoms can be mistaken for obsessive compulsive disorder, panic attacks, anxiety etc. Often you might just think the person overamped on coffee. Its pretty much assured that you know at least a couple people that you think are just hyper that have this affliction. But is is treated with one tiny little pill a day and if they never told you, you would never know. Type 2 is much more serious and should be treated as such.
"Mental illness" is a term which is really unfair. A slight chemical imbalance probably affects half or more people. Does anyone have a breast thats slightly larger than the other? One finger nail that doesnt match? A slight bend in the spine? One eye, or eyebrow higher than the other? Does your penis bend or curve to one side? All these things could be compared to some minor so called "mental illness's" in that they are not "normal". I'm not saying this to minimize those that truly do have a serious problem and require (and deserve) treatment. I would use the same amount of caution I would use with any other new partner. Half the freaks and wierdos you might run into are "normal" and should be of equal concern.

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/18/2005 9:24:38 AM

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For those that may not know, there are two variations of 'bipolar" known as Type 1 and Type 2. Type 1 is rather common and often mis or not diagnosed. ...Type 2 is much more serious and should be treated as such.

Huh....I didn't know that. I thought it was just less fun. :) My doctor mostly just told me I had type II, and I figured I knew enough about being crazy to accept it at face value.

I must go do more research now.

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/19/2005 1:40:12 AM

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Just a persoanal opinion here...But because of my
personal history...I would feel much safer and more secure
with a Partner, Lover , Domina....Who has a mental illness
and is stable taking care of herself with medication.
Then be with a sober alchoholic doing a 12 step program, it's a
personal trust issue, Not an attack on recovering Addicts.

I have found that relapse is much more tempting than stopping
medication. I also think sometimes theres much more difficult drama
packed into recovery from alcohol and drugs and there's tremendous
friend and societal pressure to begin using again.

*Brightspot

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/21/2005 6:51:15 AM

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Hello to all.
I as well, suffer from a form of mental diffulculties. While not an ilness, a disease, or anything along those lines, it nonetheless manifests along the same lines, which I have noticed after nine years of suffering with it. In 1996, I suffered an aneurysm in my brain, which caused a subarachnoid hemmorraghe. It turns out that I was very lucky to have survived and to still be cognizant after this injury. I now have double vision, somewhat weak motor skills, balance issues at times, and chronic migraines. That is all I can think of dealing with the physical manifestations at this time.
Now, for the mental problems:
I have a truly abhorent memory, which is almost constant. The following are sporadic: decision making abilities, poor judgment, impulsivity, irrational thoughts, and other higher tier reasoning skills.
I am fascinated by the possibilities od D/s, and have been for quite some time.
Should one with my limitations have any hope of finding a dominant willing to take all this on?
After reflecting on thought processes for so many years now, I am fairly aware of my liabilities, but I know that I still have a lot of love and willinginess to please in me.
Any ideas, suggestions, advice, etc. is greatly appreciated
Jonathan

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/21/2005 11:06:49 PM

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Esotericjon,
There is always hope. I dont recall where anymore but I used to see ads for some group that was designed for people that have had unfortunate circumstances. All of them were B/D S/M afficianados. It may have been through a Yahoo Group. Anyway, there are always others that can see beyond certain challenges and enjoy various activities. Dont give, up, keep searching. Run as many ads as you can. Regular ads in print if possible, alternative newspapers, online, join groups, go to munches. Believe me, many people have a very hard time meeting others regardless of thier own unique circumstances. Good Luck.

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/26/2005 5:56:08 PM

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Hi, so I feel like chiming in on this one because I know someone that was diagnosed with a bipolar style disorder recently after years of generally being a fuckup.

I think the first few posts on this thread hit it directly on the head: the responsibility for the person's well-being is more tied to their maturity and personal sense of responsibility than anything that "others" can do. Those of us who care for someone who is ill can only be supportive, we can't "fix" things from outside and any change has to come from the inside.

Unfortunately the person I know doesn't seem to be capable of the maturity and personal responsibility needed to get their life back on track, even with medication. Now they use their illness as an instant "out" from facing any difficult consequences as a result of their own actions.

I applaud those who have the maturity and personal responsibility to work through the issues and cope with them, with or without the aid of medication.

Keep on keepin' on!

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/29/2005 11:49:45 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

Just a persoanal opinion here...But because of my
personal history...I would feel much safer and more secure
with a Partner, Lover , Domina....Who has a mental illness
and is stable taking care of herself with medication.
Then be with a sober alchoholic doing a 12 step program, it's a
personal trust issue, Not an attack on recovering Addicts.

I have found that relapse is much more tempting than stopping
medication. I also think sometimes theres much more difficult drama
packed into recovery from alcohol and drugs and there's tremendous
friend and societal pressure to begin using again.

*Brightspot

Not to hijack the thread, but hopefully there will be something in this to tie into the original post. With regard to becoming involved with someone who is a functioning alcoholic, what are your thoughts? If they did not drink before or during being with you...and were able to comply with certain things...such as going to meetings, etc., would the fact that they are an alcoholic prevent you from becoming involved with them on any level?

I have mixed feelings on this issue so it will be interesting to see what others think.

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/29/2005 8:21:16 PM

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Not to hijack the thread, but hopefully there will be something in this to tie into the original post. With regard to becoming involved with someone who is a functioning alcoholic, what are your thoughts? If they did not drink before or during being with you...and were able to comply with certain things...such as going to meetings, etc., would the fact that they are an alcoholic prevent you from becoming involved with them on any level?

I have mixed feelings on this issue so it will be interesting to see what others think.

Recovering alcoholic or functional alcoholic? If they are drinking, but still able to hold onto a job and function, they still have a problem and THEY are the ones that have to deal with it.

Someone who is no longer drinking at all is a different story.

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RE: the plaque on the wall - 4/30/2005 10:01:10 AM

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when you have earned the plaque on the wall

Oh, wow, lola can relate to that! This sissy dated a potential Domme that did absolutely nothing in the way of housework for Herself. She wouldn't lift a finger to dust or clean ... everywhere you looked in Her home all you saw was dirt and grime. sissy Supposes this is why She sought a relationship with a sissy male maid. But sissy just wanted to share here the fact that this particular Domina definitely "earned the plaque" on Her wall!

Respectfrilly Yours,

sissy maid lola

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/30/2005 9:07:22 PM

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OK bipolar. I deal with this simply.

Nutritionally
no sugar, no alcohol, lots of fiber 5 meals a day

if a sub plenty of regular whipping, my god they need lots of endorphins.

I have never had an intimate relationship with a dom or domme or even Don Deleuise

Quirks? what about quirts?

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 4/30/2005 9:17:38 PM

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This sounds like what I have to eat for my hypoglycemia, are you sure that wasn't the problem in the first place? Bi-Polar disorder can sometimes be controlled through other means (herbs, meditation, etc), but not always

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RE: the plaque on the wall - 5/1/2005 12:04:36 AM

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when you have earned the plaque on the wall

Oh, wow, lola can relate to that! This sissy dated a potential Domme that did absolutely nothing in the way of housework for Herself. She wouldn't lift a finger to dust or clean ... everywhere you looked in Her home all you saw was dirt and grime. sissy Supposes this is why She sought a relationship with a sissy male maid. But sissy just wanted to share here the fact that this particular Domina definitely "earned the plaque" on Her wall!

Respectfrilly Yours,

sissy maid lola

And there is something wrong with this? Are you implying that it is unlikely I'll find someone to keep my shoelaces ironed and the cat's toenails manicured???

*sigh*

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RE: something wrong with this? - 5/1/2005 6:14:54 PM

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And there is something wrong with this? Are you implying that it is unlikely I'll find someone to keep my shoelaces ironed and the cat's toenails manicured???

*sigh*

Oh, good heavens, no, Ms Silvie. <deep curtsey>

Ironing shoelaces is an ideal chore for a little sissy maid like lola, Ms Silvie ... but as for manicuring Your cat's toenails, Ma'am, were You aware that nasty sharp cat's claws and silk and satin uniforms do not mix very well ? Do You realize exactly how much a pretty silk frilly maid's outfit costs, Ms Silvie ?

Respectfrilly Yours,

sissy maid lola

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RE: something wrong with this? - 5/2/2005 10:47:18 AM

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Do You realize exactly how much a pretty silk frilly maid's outfit costs, Ms Silvie ?

Just bill the cat, he's got more money socked away than he lets on.

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 5/2/2005 11:00:20 AM

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Recovering alcoholic or functional alcoholic? If they are drinking, but still able to hold onto a job and function, they still have a problem and THEY are the ones that have to deal with it.

Someone who is no longer drinking at all is a different story.

Functioning...as in holding onto a job and going about life, but still drinking. Yes...I agree that they are the only ones who can deal with it. My question is, would you consider a relationship in spite of this situation?

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RE: dealing with subs/slaves with mental illnesses - 5/2/2005 11:28:51 AM

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OK bipolar. I deal with this simply.

Nutritionally
no sugar, no alcohol, lots of fiber 5 meals a day

if a sub plenty of regular whipping, my god they need lots of endorphins.

I have never had an intimate relationship with a dom or domme or even Don Deleuise

Quirks? what about quirts?

Well, this would never work for me.

I would continue to be depressed or manic and I'd start to get angry about being hit because it was supposed to "fix" me.

T'weach their own.

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RE: something wrong with this? - 5/2/2005 8:31:08 PM

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Do You realize exactly how much a pretty silk frilly maid's outfit costs, Ms Silvie ?

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ORIGINAL: MsSilvie
Just bill the cat, he's got more money socked away than he lets on.

Well, Ms Silvie, that's what always happens when people keep putting money in the kitty! The next thing You know he's one of those fat cats that pays lower tax rates on his investments than the rest of us workers do on our earned income ...

Respectfrilly Yours,

sissy maid lola

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