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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 5:37:48 AM

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Greetings..~smiles~

While looks at the host of contributors thus far as to what you should do, and determining quite quickly based on little information from one side as to what type of person your Dom is because of his request.....The issue isn't what he requested..but rather how you feel about it. If it sets off alarms in you..then aren't awhole lot of options here I can think of..Talk or Stop persuing this persons collar.

There are indeed a great many persons that I have spoken with over the years who have these same exact types of fantasys running strong in them and often will say or do alot of odd things to get them fulfilled. It has run pretty much equal in parallel from the female side as well as the male. I've heard quite a few women speak of their significant others brother or sister, and fantasize about having sex with their involvement also. The often funny of it is something like: well if my S.O. is this hot in bed..just think how awesome that would be with his brother there to..and offer a laugh. So while the request might not be the norm to alot..it is out there.

What to do: Do whats right for you.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 5:57:52 AM

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Drop It Like It Hot girl. This is not the sort of Dom you need. He is insincere and not just kinky for you, but for your little sister,. he will use you to get to her, which is unacceptable. To have a dream and even to talk about it is ok, but to put pressure on you to bring a young sibling into his life is just yeukkk.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 6:01:27 AM

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If you are 22 and your sister is younger , not sure how much, sounds weird to me. In all my years in this have never had a disturbing request like that. I would confront him and make it clear your feelings about this. Sounds very wrong to me.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 7:46:17 AM

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How young is the sister? That's really my only issue here.

Why is it ok for all these doms here to send their girls trolling for another female to play with, but not if it's a biological sister?

It's a kink, as long as it's with consensual adults, we should be ok with this. If she's not into it, that's fine and she should say so and he should either stop or end the relationship.

I know a lot of people are squicked by incestual relationships- but a lot aren't. A lot of people are squicked by needles, a lot aren't. Deal with it.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 8:10:15 AM

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I certainly have no problem with the fantasy, but it seems as though he may be manipulating and pushiing you into a direction you do not wish to go. That to me is the red flag. It's not the fantasy, but what appears to be a disregard for your feelings, and he's using your desire for a collar to manipulate you and get what he wants. Offering to share more time with you if you get a picture for him just seems....creepy. He should be offering to share more time with you becuase he wants to be with you...

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 8:27:53 AM

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LA, I'm mostly with ya. I only suggested to move on, because the OP is obviously squicked by it too, and probably wants to watch the feeding frenzy.

However, I figure it's one thing to send my photo to someone I've never met. Even reasonably, I could send a photo of me with my sister. But to send a photo of my sister, without her permission, seems inappropriate - doubly so, as it appears she hasn't even met the guy real time yet. That's my real beef. I would be pretty unhappy if my sis sent my photo to her bi-male friend who was interested in all of us having a threesome.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 8:30:28 AM

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Sweetie, i say move on... i was sicken when i was with a Dom and he requested to train my daughter....

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 9:09:53 AM

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Did he discuss the need.desire for threesomes with you? Was that acceptable to you? I find it rather strange that he has an obsession with your younger sister and even more strange if he hasnt discussed threesomes with you.

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Forget this collar of consideration crap. Many people feel that the "collar of consideration" would be more aptly named "the blow job collar"... You sit around while he considers and he runs around trying to see who else he can score with. Do you really want to allow someone to place a bookmark in your life and learning curve just so they can know that you are available when they wish to avail themself? I am sure that there will be posts about how valuable someone found a collar of consideration, but if honesty prevailed, you would hear from many people who bought into that and were used and tricked. All of the interaction between two people is a time of consideration... why create something deeper while you "think about it"?

I was playing a game on the other side when this scrolled by. I answered it without realizing it was in the Submissive/Slave forum. I have always avoided posting in this area because I dont think questions asked of one group should be answered by another group. If anyone would like for this to be removed, please ask.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 9:28:05 AM

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Greetings..~smiles~

If I had a daughter..this request would stun me also..but on the flip side..was a girl Master and I (mostly me cause she seemed to prefer it starting off) were talking to..and almost Everything that came out of her mouth in the form of questions was regarding her daughter, ..would Master make her serve..would he punish her..would she be whored out..and this wasn't coming from a concerned mothers side of the fence but from a mother who Wanted this for her daughter because she was apparently having difficulty's training her. The child was not of a consentual age.

The dialogue ended when Master told her the daughter would serve by following the house rules, helping around the house, and school would be her priority period.

Sooooo..there are folks out there.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 9:34:25 AM

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If he is asking for that kind of stuff right now........what do you think he will ask of you later. The limit pushers never "let off" and they just get weirder and weirder. I can't tell you what to do, but I know what I would do. I would run as fast as my feet could carry me.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 9:52:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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He thinks of you and your sister together? It's common for men to fantasize about 2 women touching each other, but we're talking incest here.

Incest is also a fairly common fantasy (what men have with twins, I will never know) but the issue here is that he's exhibiting signs of trying to make it come true and clearly it's not something the OP is comfortable with and brings in unconsenting parties. It's the difference between reading rape erotica and asking for when your best friend goes to bed and if she really turns her alarm on every night.

On what basis do you make the claim that incest is a common fantasy? Your experience? I have not seen or heard of any study that relates to Incest being a Common fantasy.... and my experiences would tend to consider such a fantasy as rather uncommon if not rare.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 9:56:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: LittleDaisyGirl

My Sir, that is, the dom I have been training with and hoping for a consideration collar from, has made it pretty clear that he thinks of my younger sister and I together and thinks it's hot. Recently he offered to spend more time with me if I would give him a picture of my sister, which I had previously said no to because it seems unfair to my sister to fuel someone's fantasy with her picture. Of course, I said no. I can't believe he offered that trade. I don't know what to do.

Why don't you know what to do? What does your own morals and beliefs tell you of this situation? I suggest you follow what is your own morals and beliefs tell you.... remember ... you are going to have look in the mirror afterwards.

As someone asked?? Is this Online only? I wouldn't be surprized if it is.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:00:31 AM

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I certainly haven't heard of incest being common either. Fathers and mothers who molest their children are real sickos and end up in prison where they belong. Sister on sister is no different. Incest is incest. To the OP, this dom is one sick bastard and you need to get away from immediately.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:00:57 AM

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Hmmm. Now that would be an interesting poll...I do wonder how many would admit to incest fantasies though, even in such a place as this. I also suspect they are fairly common. However, I would differentiate between fantasy, and the desire to act out the fantasy. My bet is that many might have the fantasy, but less would want to act it out?

Wonder if any research has been done on this. Isn't Nancy Friday the sexual fantasy research lady?

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:02:15 AM

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I'm assuming by the way, adult incest fantasies.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:05:54 AM

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So there is nothing wrong with 21 year olds having sex with their father or mother just because they are adults? eeeeeeeewwww

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:13:19 AM

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Not saying that. I'm only curious as to how many people actually would have such a fantasy, even without the desire to make it become real. I for one, allow my mind to go to all sorts of places that I would never, in a million years, go to in real life.

Anway...that's not the point of the thread, and i digress.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:18:40 AM

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I understand your curiousity with statistics. I'm just saying sickos that do that kind of crap should be in prison or locked in psycho wards because they have some serious problems.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:22:43 AM

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I think incest fantasies are very common. What about all the Daddy Doms out there? Or the slaves looking for a Mommy or Daddy. Those people may not fantasize about their real realitives, then again maybe they do. But to think that incest fantasies are rare I think is not taking everything into account. That doesnt make non-consentual sex of any kind right. Im just saying the fantasy is out there in larger numbers in my opinion.

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RE: Sir's Unbelievable Request - 12/19/2006 10:30:54 AM

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Of course, but there is no blood relation. This dom is actually wanting her to get sexual with her sister.......real life, not fantasy. Why not have her get it on with a close friend instead? He appears to be turned on by incest. Anyone wanting someone to act out a scene with an actual blood relative is a creep.

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