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Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 1:47:58 PM   
Unrepentant1


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This as a sub is something that really interests me, but also scares me. I have seen videos of man being fisted by women, even elbow deep, but wonder how you get someone trained to take a fist, even elbow deep. I am also curious about any lasting damage, because one hears of people needing diapers from abuse. Can this be enjoyed without damage?
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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 1:49:26 PM   
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oh ouch

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 1:54:45 PM   
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You took the words right out of my mouth LaTigresse

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 1:58:17 PM   
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I am damn sure I would moan like a whore, lol.

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 2:20:52 PM   
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At Denver's Thunder a couple years ago (http://www.ThunderInTheMountains.com), I watched a woman (Midori) fist her pup. 
 
First, after she removed his 'tail wagging' butt-plug for a larger, stretching one...she continued with her talk a bit.  Then, replacing the larger plug for one that was a clear, magnifying one (that she sells, btw) and invited the entire audience up to peer down his rectum... oh my!
 
Finally she removed that little goodie and ‘suited-up’ in glamorous long black (medical) gloves and slowly pushed her arm in.  It was an interesting experience to watch.  The boy loved it…and masturbated to climax while she fisted him.
 
I’ve always had a fear of watching breakfast fall through to the floor…but this boy was healthy and tight.  Perhaps they don’t do it often?
 
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PS, Midori has been invited back for Thunder '07!  Yumo...

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 2:36:24 PM   
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The idea makes me cringe! I wouldn't imagine why someone would want that done to themself but to each their own..I would be afraid of some type of long lasting damage...

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 2:43:40 PM   
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To me, this would be the ultimate submissive act and I could only do so with someone I loved and adored. Although it scares me I know I will do it, I just need to find the right Domme !

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 2:48:05 PM   
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The training is basically in relaxation.  Nothing is "stretched."  It is more a matter of learning on both a conscious and subconscious level (there are two sphincters that have to be passed and only one is under conscious control) that the body is not at risk so it doesn't have to tighten up to defend itself.

There are at least two excellent books for those interested in anal fisting (handballing.)  The most specific one is "Trust: A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing" by Bert Herrman.  Bert has been a friend of mine for decades and he does an excellent job of explaining the techniques and safety procedures.  A more general book is Anal Pleasure and Health by Dr. Jack Morin.  I don't know him personally but the book is excellent.

There are a lot of myths around, spread mostly by those who haven't fisted or been fisted.  These books are both real world information.

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 3:03:03 PM   
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Thank you for the advice on books, I shall try and get my hands on one.

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 3:44:06 PM   
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John, Sir...

What about those men who can grab their anuses with both hands, fingers inside, pulling outwards to show off their innards?  What do they call such an opening; those with ...what, scar tissue surrounding the anus...some kinda flower?  (no, it ain't ‘rosebud’, I’m sure) 

Surely the men who boast 'a flowered anus' must have done something to make it so?  While I have books on anal sex and fisting (more for women)...I have no idea what causes this radical change.  And, does that change mean the owner must wear Depends?

Curiously probing,
Beverly

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/19/2006 4:01:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unrepentant1

This as a sub is something that really interests me, but also scares me. I have seen videos of man being fisted by women, even elbow deep, but wonder how you get someone trained to take a fist, even elbow deep. I am also curious about any lasting damage, because one hears of people needing diapers from abuse. Can this be enjoyed without damage?


If it's done right, there should be no problems. It will take years of training before
you can take it elbow deep.


Diane

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/20/2006 5:52:13 PM   
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John, Sir...

What about those men who can grab their anuses with both hands, fingers inside, pulling outwards to show off their innards?  What do they call such an opening; those with ...what, scar tissue surrounding the anus...some kinda flower?  (no, it ain't ‘rosebud’, I’m sure) 

Surely the men who boast 'a flowered anus' must have done something to make it so?  While I have books on anal sex and fisting (more for women)...I have no idea what causes this radical change.  And, does that change mean the owner must wear Depends?

Curiously probing,
Beverly



I'm afraid I haven't encountered anyone with that sort of skill in my social circle.  I am, however, somewhat of an expert in scar tissue thanks some unfriendly souls in Cambodia, and I can state that scar tissue is both less flexible and more prone to cracking and tearing than the skin and muscle it replaces.

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/21/2006 2:15:02 AM   
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greetings

everyone has a thing they wish to try out! some are a little different then other and some are well way out there this fisting is something i do not understand if you want something so big in you i have seen very giant dildos that can really make you have that full feeling i think you may be looking for. but to put a fist up into the area of you ansu do you know when you have a SIGMOIDOSCOPY they must gave you powerful laxztive to clean you out so they may get into there and no an plain of water pushed into will not clean you enough and they when someone is going into to you in that area, with there arms up to the elbow you must a sedative and this is something so seroius they gave a waring of if patient has hear problem  renal dieseae they should not ever take this so when they have their hand up in you i saw one with two arms inside up to the elbows this is reaching into you large intestines. everyone has their kink but i do not see what the pleasure is in this on someone maybe able to tell me why this is a pleasure act . it is dangerous to me but i only have my opinion that is all

someone tell me please wwhat is the pleasure factor in this act i am one to believe in i do not know all and i am willing to learn what is going on

mons

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/21/2006 6:11:33 AM   
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someone tell me please wwhat is the pleasure factor in this act i am one to believe in i do not know all and i am willing to learn what is going on

mons


I'd just like someone to explain to me what's so enjoyable about fish on pizza.

Basically, if someone likes something, it's unexplainable to people who don't like it and if the other person likes it, an explaination is unneeded.

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/21/2006 6:25:03 AM   
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someone tell me please wwhat is the pleasure factor in this act i am one to believe in i do not know all and i am willing to learn what is going on

mons


I'd just like someone to explain to me what's so enjoyable about fish on pizza.

Basically, if someone likes something, it's unexplainable to people who don't like it and if the other person likes it, an explaination is unneeded. 


        Thank you, John
 
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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/21/2006 7:44:29 AM   
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I enjoy stretching men's anuses, I admit it.  I have fisted 5 men this year, and one in his first ever anal session took about 3 hours.  I am very careful, and always do this to someone with them facing me so I do not have not rely soley on verbal cues.  The clear plug idea is a glorious one, I may just have to get me one of them....  I have never caused tearing, and only once even had the slightest bit of blood during anal play.  Honestly, the hardest part for me is making sure not to stab his insides with my acrylic nails, because as someone else put it, if they're not completely relaxed and totally trusting on a deep fundamental level, it won't work.  For some reason though, people tend to trust me with their lives (and asses) quite easily after one conversation...... a reality that comes with alot of power, but even more responsibility.

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/21/2006 12:53:40 PM   
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What a shame your are so far away! It is nice to hear from some genuine people on here who are happy to help and reassure me. Thank you all for that.

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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/21/2006 5:26:45 PM   
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The clear plug idea is a glorious one, I may just have to get me one of them.... 

Sheeshhhhhhhh I'm sorry!  Midori was at Thunder as well, but the 'fister' was the infamous  Tristan Taormino, (renouned sex educator/author and all around awesome woman). 

The butt plug is "The Crystal Clear Uranus" (handmade, seamless and clear as glass!  It's available on Taormino's website:  http://www.puckerup.com     (click 'Specality Toys')

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I have never caused tearing, and only once even had the slightest bit of blood during anal play.  Honestly, the hardest part for me is making sure not to stab his insides with my acrylic nails...

I don't wear acrylics, but I understand you can place a cottonball at the end of each finger of the glove...to make stabbing less likely.

Good luck...
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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/21/2006 8:52:54 PM   
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greetings

everyone has a thing they wish to try out! some are a little different then other and some are well way out there this fisting is something i do not understand if you want something so big in you i have seen very giant dildos that can really make you have that full feeling i think you may be looking for. but to put a fist up into the area of you ansu do you know when you have a SIGMOIDOSCOPY they must gave you powerful laxztive to clean you out so they may get into there and no an plain of water pushed into will not clean you enough and they when someone is going into to you in that area, with there arms up to the elbow you must a sedative and this is something so seroius they gave a waring of if patient has hear problem  renal dieseae they should not ever take this so when they have their hand up in you i saw one with two arms inside up to the elbows this is reaching into you large intestines. everyone has their kink but i do not see what the pleasure is in this on someone maybe able to tell me why this is a pleasure act . it is dangerous to me but i only have my opinion that is all

someone tell me please wwhat is the pleasure factor in this act i am one to believe in i do not know all and i am willing to learn what is going on

mons


the reason they have you use the innard cleanser (usually called "golitely") is so that the doctor can actually visualize the walls of the colon...if the sigmoidoscopy is to be effective it has to be visable to the camera...and like it or not, stuff sticks to the walls of the colon...when people are doing anal play...its all up to the people invovled wither or not they get squicked out.

Even if they are playing and have their arm in up to their elbow...they are still in the lowest portion of the large intestine...but more than likely no further than the sigmoid colon...the large intestines go in reverse (excuse the pun here)  from the anus..to the rectum about 4-6 inches long....to the sigmoid colon...about 6-8 inches long to the descending colon...the transverse colon, the ascending colon..then you have the appendix  and the small intestines...basically the rectum is a big storage area...most people that are constipates have stool stuck in here..

when fisting, by logistically looking at the length and the flexibility of the human body,  a hand could easily fit and stay in the rectum...provided it could pass through the anal sphincter and the other sphincter that eludes my memory at present....me...i have had far too many repaires of the delicate area to have anyone disturb it...scar tissue doesn't stretch and well i have had enough fissues to last a lifetime.. I hope that i have given you a good visual of the lower part of the human anatomy...  You should honestly see some of the pieces of stool that i have seen coming out of a constipated adult...you would think that they gave birth the diameter of some of the things that i have seen come out...so if it can come out...it is my guess it can go in...to some people...

as far as what someone else had said  it is a relaxation issue....people are anesthitised dueing the sigmoidoscopy becasue it is easier to perform on a person that is relaxed...and it is uncomfortable..I wouldnt say painful ( having had my share of investigatory tests) the relaxation helps the doctor perfor the test and also permits them to take a biopsy as necessary.



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RE: Anal Fisting - 12/22/2006 12:05:01 PM   
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Thank you Candle in the wind, that saves me looking it all up now, very informative. What a shame you can not enjoy this yourself.

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