SweetDommes
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My posting was based on multiple experiences - and my experiences are that those "slave girls" who profess to be gorean slaves (particularly, those who claim to be "gorean pleasure slaves") are nothing more than illbehaved children who think that it's cute to be obnoxious - and there are always a larger number of that type to be found than the "normal" bdsm subbie brats. I was in a chat room one day and 5 of them decended on the room because they recognized a name in the room - they came in, made fools of themselves, and up until then, there had been no subbie brats. Afterwards, when they had gotten away with their attrocious behavior, others joined in and I became almost physically ill. When reprimanded by people, the subbie brats settled down, and the "slave girls" laughed it off and continued with their behavior - how long, I don't know, because at that point, I put them on ignore. I have also had multiple run-ins with r/l goreans (like the one who invited people to his house, and then because he was online, didn't go to answer the door when they got there, he made them wait because it's his house and his right to be rude to his invited guests), and at best the r/l interactions were neutral. We were told to discipline our boy for something that he did (he was being a smart ass, although not particularly obnoxious) - he appologised for hurt feelings, and we were satisfied with that. However, because it happened in the presence of a gorean master, we were told that our opinions didn't matter about our own property - that because a free male didn't agree with us, that our opinions were nothing. There are other examples, but I'll spare you all. I'm not talking about "the first" that we met, or even the first 2 or 3 - I'm talking about a pattern of at least 10 different men that for sure profess to be gorean - after that, I quit paying attention, and started avoiding interactions with goreans. No offense to anyone who is gorean, but if I see a pattern developing that I don't like, then I will avoid the components of that pattern - the pattern of the last 6+ years is that goreans and we do not get along because they are not willing to let us be ourselves, so I tend to avoid them like plague carriers. I understand that people can be kidnapped at any time, and that on gor there was retaliation, but it's still accepted practice in that society to go around kidnapping women to turn them into slaves - to me, that speaks of the same mentality that existed years ago when white europeans would go to africa and kidnap the natives to turn them into slaves ... and you can't tell me that there wasn't a serious superiority complex going on back then ... In the books, even the so-called free women were subservient to their menfolk - be it their fathers and brothers, or their husbands - again, that sets a tone of inferiority. Again, I don't have a problem with people who are gorean, per say - however, the ones that I've run across before feel the need to force their ways onto us and then justify why they do so, and that, I have a huge problem with. Multiple bad experiences will jade a person, and on this topic, I am admittedly jaded - it's not for me, and I don't see why so many have tried to force it upon me.
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