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darksdesire -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:11:26 PM)

There are apparantly multiple intelligences, such as spatial, language, intrapersonal, interpersonal, mathamatical....I don't know how I might define it in a partner, other than I need to feel intellectually challenged and stimulated in our relationship.  I do know I like intelligence to include emotional awareness and insight.  Intelligence is so damn sexy. 




Quivver -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:18:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

I look for a decent level of all three, because one alone leads to strange, strange children.

benji


Ditto........ and OMG Benji, i've met that family!! 




Invictus754 -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:25:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
Streetsmarts are things which keep us alive, such as not reading the newspaper while running down the stairs with a bucket of knives in high heels.  It's the real world application of knowledge.  benji


I'm trying to figure out how you get a bucket of knives into a high heel...




mnottertail -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:27:43 PM)

I am betting there is some forethought and prolly some practice involved...but it ain't my kink, could be a hell of a lot easier than I imagine.

Ron




slavejali -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:37:12 PM)

You guys are a riot [:D]




gooddogbenji -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:37:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
Streetsmarts are things which keep us alive, such as not reading the newspaper while running down the stairs with a bucket of knives in high heels.  It's the real world application of knowledge.  benji


I'm trying to figure out how you get a bucket of knives into a high heel...


If you stopped assuming things, you might just understand that it is not the bucket in heels, but the knives.

Seriously, you call yourself kinky?

Yours,


benji




rapunzel2 -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:42:52 PM)

Wait...aren't you just running down stairs in high heels, reading the paper and holding a bucket of knives?




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 7:52:39 PM)

To me, intelligence is about the ability to put several ideas together to create something new, rather like a puzzle.

Master Fire




Sinergy -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 8:33:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

Intelligence is someone who can beat me at Scrabble![:D]


So there I am playing scrabble, and the two people challenge me on the word REDE on a triple word score.

I could also have spelled REED, but where is the fun of that?

Shooting fish in a barrel, if you ask me.

Sinergy

p.s. As far as the thread is concerned, I am always amazed at the number of people who pontificate endlessly about their intelligence, and those who actually are intelligent.

But that is just me, and I could be wrong.




SilverBoat -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 9:11:15 PM)

Similar to what darksdesire mentioned, I've noticed that people who have 'snap' tend to be more perceptive about some topics than others. Some people 'get' the principles of physics easily, others 'get' artistic concepts, or relationship nuances, or whatever. Some of them can be relatively clueless about other topics, but more often than not, when motivated they grasp new ideas quickly and readily.

Without dragging up the whole nature-nurture shebang, I suspect that when 'intelligent' peoples' perceptions seem to diverge, it's because they tend to be more on the ball about things that interest them, having invested more time in those things.

And maybe it's just a personal preference, but I generally gravitate towards people whose intelligence and character are such they have broad interests. It just flat makes life more fun when discussions and activities can ricochet all over the spectrum ...

SB~





SlyStone -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 9:43:10 PM)

"ability to learn new skills"
"enrich my innner life"

A springer spaniel springs to mind



PS
I have known many a dog with a good deal more intelligence than a good many people, and that is for sure.



My definition of intelligence is:



Imagination driven by curiosity




Sinergy -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 9:54:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yggdrasil.





Norse mythology is so banal.

Sinergy




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 10:08:04 PM)

"What does intelligence mean to you?"

It means that someone asking for intelligence in a partner can write their own profile or e-mails in better than monosyllabic/laconic shortspeak.




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Intelligence? (1/15/2007 10:11:27 PM)

"Norse mythology is so banal."

Not when you take the Svartlheimers into account instead of merely looking at Loki and Jotuns.




SusanofO -> RE: Intelligence? (1/16/2007 12:16:36 AM)

The older I get, the more of a premium I find myself putting on common sense, for some reason (I know some really intelligent people, though who don't always appear to have much of it, and that could be one reason).

I appreciate traditionally "smart" as much as the next person, maybe more than that (I don't know) - But -

I really appreciate creative types, although according to some studies I've heard about, creativity doesn't have all that much to do with your standard, academic definition of "intelligence" (verbal and meth skills, etc.). I think if someone has what I consider none or very little creativity, they are just less interesting to me sometimes, I guess. I consider myself relatively creative - at least I try to have a good imagination.

Emotional intellligence is probably (to me) the most important kind of intelligence, though - and that has almost nothing (or very little) to do with "book smarts", I think - although some really smart people I know have lots of it (and some have next to none, too). Somebody who can really hone in on what might be happening in my gut-level emotional self, who can understand me, who really has what I call "empathy" - and can demostrate that.

Or, someone who relates to other people in a somewhat empathic way that demostrates caring - that is always such a turn on to me. I mean it doesn't have to be all sentimental and "mushy" - just even a little concern and caring can be a huge turn of for me, I know.

I think I can express empathy with other people (much of the time, or at least try to, although of course I can't always get it down perfectly, and sometimes entirely miss the mark).

Somebody who has none, or almost no "emotional intelligence" or is just plain too "intellectual" is not really ever that attractive to me, regardless of how "book smart" they might be. I had enough of that with my husband to last a life-time. The man was probably a genius, but he couldn't manage to even hug me, 95% of the time we were married (no thanks!). If I were given a choice, ever, between being with someone "highly intelligent" and someone who knows how to show affection and "be real", I'd choose the latter every single time, from now on anyway.

Of course hopefully, one can find both qualities in the same person. Hopefully.  

I have been around intelligent people most of my life, I think - that is - your "traditionally intelligent" types. I can appreciate that, a lot sometimes - I think being smart or being around pretty smart people can be a very enriching life experience, overall.

But I have to say, when it comes to seeking a partner, there are so many other factors that weigh in other than whether they are really very intelligent (for me). Empathy, stability, loyalty, devotion to growth, and a genuine concern for my welfare, etc.- all of these things matter, to me more than whether someone is highly intelligent. Of course I don't think I'd get along at all with someone I considered stupid - but there are so many definitions of "intelligent"; and I do consider emotional intelligence the highest on my list of "priorities" of we're talking "intelligence." 

None of what I said (stability, loyalty, etc.) is ever going to be replaced, for me, I don't think, simply due to being bowled over by someone's raw brain power. I might be really impressed by that, maybe even in awe of it, but - if the other stuff isn't there, I know that having a deeper relationship with them won't (ultimately) work out, probably, for me (but that wasn't really the question or part of the topic, I guess, and I probably don't even need to say that).

- Susan




NorthernGent -> RE: Intelligence? (1/16/2007 12:32:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Thats a start of what I percieve to be intelligence...and a person who has those attributes may not even be able to spell 'intelligence' or put it into a sentence....



I like this point, it makes sense to me. When I say I look for intelligence, I really mean an ability to remove all the politics/spin from an issue and take it down to its bare bones i.e. discuss the concept.

Incorrect grammar/spelling/sentence structure is not a problem for me. In fact, I quite like a certain amount of disorder in submissives' posts (not to the point of a blatant limited education though).

I agree, incorrect spelling does not equate to a lack of intelligence.




SusanofO -> RE: Intelligence? (1/16/2007 12:43:50 AM)

I agree with Northern Gent that great analytical skill, as he mentions, is a good indicator of someone's intelligence in the traditional sense (and maybe in a very non-traditional sense as well). Being able to listen to someone (at length), or read a long passage online, or in a book, and get at what the "real issue(s)" is that is being discussed (or not), and hone in on that as far as what might need to be addressed or discussed further.

And I agree it has nothing to do with correct spelling, etc. - To me, that's all window dressing and lower-level skill stuff almost anyone (except a dyslexic, maybe) can be taught, probably. Although I admit some have a talent for things like correct spelling, and some do not.

- Susan   




ExSteelAgain -> RE: Intelligence? (1/16/2007 1:31:51 AM)

The effects of intelligence on a relationship are subtle and become more important with time. It is important to find someone close to your particular intelligence level. Superficial aspects of a couple will pale as things go on, but intelligence will exert more and more on a relationship.

The intelligence level will work both ways. It is not only the smarter one becoming bored. If someone is lots smarter than you and experiencing different feelings and insights, you will, also, suffer. There are some smart women around who would eventually tire me with their perfectly wise thoughts because I don’t think and feel on their level.

Everyone with a high IQ is not fun or exciting to be around, either. Some are extremely…pick a negative adjective. The point here is that being at a similar intelligence level is critically important, but there are other factors.




SusanofO -> RE: Intelligence? (1/16/2007 1:34:01 AM)

I think you're right about that, Ex-Steel. What a great summation. I know I need someone caring and smart. Smart alone just doesn't do it for me, but if it's really not really there  - at least in ways I notice (even subtle ways), then I know will (eventually) miss that, too. But - the ability to show caring in a way I find effective and moving to me, and that can bring out the best in me (and vice versa) is part of what I consider "intelligence" to begin with. 

- Susan




beticat -> RE: Intelligence? (1/16/2007 1:50:24 AM)

For me, intelligence is the ability to understand what I'm saying on roughly the same level.  
Maybe one level higher to push me to 'think' beyond where I started.
I have a friend who is great fun, very upbeat and outgoing. She was living in a place where the backyard was completely paved.  The landlord was getting rid of an old bed.
There was a metal bed frame with an old mattress on it.  I said it looked very surreal.  She said it wasn't surreal ~ it was frickin' real.
Maybe I'm being a vocabulary snob (probably!)  I need to have someone who understands the meanings of the words I use ~ even if they disagree about the premise or concept, at least they understand.

This was a fast reply and I can't get the smiley guy to go away, that I didn't mean to check, because in some ways I'm illiterate when it comes to computers and forums...
...does that make me 'not intelligent'?  ~gr~




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