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subnas -> honesty online (1/17/2007 12:11:41 AM)

what do people think about being honest and telling the truth about yourself online? how easy is it to download a picture of someone else and then say it is you. how do you really know that they are the person in the picture? for all we know they could be a guy, which has been known to happen. Would love to hear other peoples view on this.



parfait -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 12:52:58 AM)

Unfortunately, it’s very easy to pretend to be someone else here on cyberspace. [8|]

One way to be sure, is to using the web cam from where you can see at least person’s gender or are they even remotely the person they say they are.

Taking the time to getting to know someone has also worked well for me.



undergroundsea -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 12:56:40 AM)

While what you describe could happen, I generally assume it is not occurring. That is, I am open to the idea that it is possible but do not wish to let paranoia sabotage an otherwise promising dialog.

The depth of my interactions is related to persons who are reasonably local, and I do not engage in cyber play. So misrepresentation through a photo is more likely to come out in this case. Also, I rely on my overall gut feel.

There are ways to ascertain the authenticity of a photo: have a photo taken with a given description. I find such a request awkward at either end of the request. Still, other people do it. Some people proactively use a photo where they are holding a sign that has their screenname on it. If this matter becomes important, you could place such a photo of yourself in your profile, and ask for a similar photo from others in your profile text. It would be less awkward if this request is listed as a general request versus one individually made.

Cheers,

Sea



DominaSnow -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 12:59:19 AM)

I like phone verification. :)



undergroundsea -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 1:02:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DominaSnow

I like phone verification. :)


Nothing a frequency multiplier couldn't fix ;-) Don't mind me. I have been watching too many James Bond films.

Cheers,

Sea



texancutie -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 1:14:46 AM)

What is a frequency multiplier?  Guess I can google it though.  [:)]



undergroundsea -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 1:25:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: texancutie

What is a frequency multiplier?  Guess I can google it though.  [:)]


I was kidding ;-) I am not aware of a commercially available frequency multiplier to modify voice but refer to an electrical engineering concept. A frequency multiplier can shift a frequency to a higher frequency which can then be retrieved with an appropriate filter. I was thinking of some device that digitizes voice and then performs a similar transformation, or simply uses something similar to the frequency equalizers on stereo amplifiers to obtain only the higher frequency components. I am not sure how well this technique would work in practice.

Cheers,

Sea



subnas -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 1:39:13 AM)

thanks everyone for your input. i 2 like to ring people to hear there voice as well.



sleazy -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 1:55:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

quote:

ORIGINAL: texancutie

What is a frequency multiplier?  Guess I can google it though.  [:)]


I was kidding ;-) I am not aware of a commercially available frequency multiplier to modify voice but refer to an electrical engineering concept. A frequency multiplier can shift a frequency to a higher frequency which can then be retrieved with an appropriate filter. I was thinking of some device that digitizes voice and then performs a similar transformation, or simply uses something similar to the frequency equalizers on stereo amplifiers to obtain only the higher frequency components. I am not sure how well this technique would work in practice.

Cheers,

Sea



Just to put a fly or six in the ointment, I downloaded a software voice changer about 5-6 years ago (was good enough to fool someone that knew me intimately), and now with VOIP, i can be anyone anywhere I guess.



slavebrandyj -> RE: honesty on line (1/17/2007 2:02:39 AM)

I was a victim of one once. Actually met her in a vanilla personals site. Pictures were female and nice looking. But not glamor or sexy. Very plain. Started off telling me she worked for the cable company, Some days and IM's back and forth, she tells me that she lied since her real job tends to intimidate men. So now she tells me she is a Captain and pilot for United Airlines! OK, being suspicious, I asked her about some flying things that a pilot would know. Guess what...she had the answers! Then one night I IMed her and got her first lieutenant (co-pilot) instead. With out boring detail, we talked for a couple of hours. Now my suspicion was way up! Next was a flight attendant that messaged me and said the captain would be mad if she knew that the flight attendant IMed me. Right....now I'm buying this?   lol  Long story short, it was fun and it ended when I told her that the FAA does not show a pilot's license  for her or her co-pilot! Imagine, she got mad because I did not trust her or believe her!  Translation is IT was probably a gay male flight attendant that got off on role playing as a female to guys looking to meet a woman.  But it was at least fun. The BS she came across with! owned 7 horses, a home in Scotland, met and dated a couple of Hollywood heart throbs etc.
Just know the signs and be somewhat suspicious until you get to know them. If they put off meeting soon, they are an Internet player.
 I got taken in by one that was real good. I bought into her enough to fall in love with her! Took over 2 years to meet face to face and then I was to blind to see the joke she really was.  Cost me a marriage and so much more. She was a great actress, but she ended up to be a lonely bored Domme wanna be at best. I was her sucker and fool for over 3 years! In the end, she slandered me, lied about me and ruined some friendships with others in some Yahoo Groups. But that is another story for a different time and place...sigh  JUST BE CAREFUL and yes, be a little leery.
 (for those that know me or Her)   ... just for the record....NO she is not, was not the Domme I truly love and was released by.  I will miss Her but not the players that took up my time.



texancutie -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 2:22:49 AM)

LOL I figured that, but I still wanted to know what they were, so I did google.  They certainly are not capable of that at this point in time.  I actually am not even sure it would ever work.  But never say never.  Gosh that was dry reading though.  [;)]



texancutie -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 2:24:47 AM)

Now that is interesting.  I didn't think voice changers had the capability to sound realistic enough.  Well, just goes to figure that maybe sometime you have no idea who you are on the phone with...lol.



MissyRane -> RE: honesty on line (1/17/2007 2:31:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slavebrandyj

If they put off meeting soon, they are an Internet player.


Not necessarily since some simply aren't ready to jump out until after few months or so. It's difficult to define 'soon' really..at least in my opinion.

and about the webcams..It is possible to fake cams, a friend once showed me a proggy that's designed to do that, no I don't know how it works though..but then no, I doubt many people actually bother faking a cam[8|] I mean shit they'd gotta be a lot more than desperate if they did that



MasterFireMaam -> RE: honesty online (1/17/2007 8:10:17 AM)

Until you meet them in person, you really have no way of knowing if they're being honest or not.

We had a "scandal" a few years ago here in NC. It seemed that a guy (I believe he was actually military) was making a lucrative side living by pretending to be female and working for a phone sex business. He was one of the most popular "women" and was frequently requested. People got really upset when they found out "she" was he. Proof that not even phone verification works all the time.

So, the question might be: if what you're doing is really playing with an imaginary person created by the other person anyway, how important IS honesty? You're not doing them...you're imagining doing someone they've created in your head. That's just as fake, even if it is hot and effective.

Master Fire



cloudboy -> RE: honesty online (1/18/2007 10:31:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subnas

what do people think about being honest and telling the truth about yourself online? how easy is it to download a picture of someone else and then say it is you. how do you really know that they are the person in the picture? for all we know they could be a guy, which has been known to happen. Would love to hear other peoples view on this.


Sometimes "really knowing" it absolutely besides the point. If a relationship is only going to be online, a great deal of illusion may be in play and to me that's a good thing. We all have plenty of ordinary reality in our own homes and towns as it is. Playing games is what the online experience is all about.

If, however, online is a precursor to meeting, then illusion drifts into manipulation and "dishonesty."

In sum, "online" is the province of our imaginations. Its where cripples walk, men are kings and women are Queens.



LaTigresse -> RE: honesty online (1/18/2007 11:03:15 AM)

As MasterFireMaam said, there is no way to know without spending time with them. Even face to face can be tricky, ask Eddie Murphy[:D].

I just choose to believe a person is who they say they until they give me a reason to think otherwise. It usually doesn't take very long for a bullshitter to out themself.



MsPoetress -> RE: honesty online (1/18/2007 11:20:15 AM)

Unfortunately you don't know who is being honest, and who is yanking your chain. You can either be paranoid and never trust anyone online or you can take some chances and find a good match.

~poe




ToGiveDivine -> RE: honesty online (1/18/2007 11:31:21 AM)

Okay, I'll come clean ... the picture to the left is not me :-(



mstrjx -> RE: honesty online (1/18/2007 11:47:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

Okay, I'll come clean ... the picture to the left is not me :-(


You just wish it were.



MsOpal -> RE: honesty online (1/18/2007 12:06:07 PM)

I can only answer for myself.  I am totally honest in my profile and picture.  I am here to hopefully make a few new friends, which has happened, and maybe to find someone close enough to us geographically to form a relationship with, which may be happening.  Since I (we) do want and hope for, real life meetings, it would be pretty stupid to put up fake information.  So far we have been lucky in that the few  persons we have met from here were who they said they were.  I know how easy it is to fake it on line, but really, after some experience you can get a pretty good idea if someone is "pulling your leg".  I just generally feel sorry for someone who has such a sad real life that they have to be fake on here.
MsOpal



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