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Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 10:16:47 AM

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I realize that most Female Prodomme wil never have any sexual contact within a session,but what happens with Pro Domme Masters ? it would seem that the power exchange would involve the submissive partner at a minumum eprforming fellatio or
being taken anally. Can anyone share their experince ?

RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 12:17:38 PM

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Are there actually many professional male Dominants?

Aren't there way more male dominants than female subs? <sifting through papers> Where IS that census info, anyway?

Lopsidedness (more businessmen than clients) would make going professional as a Master/Dom/Male Top a hard sell. (Unless, say, Brad Pitt or Adrian Paul put out his shingle...)

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 12:41:48 PM

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Some local disk jockeys were talking by phone to a professional male dominant whose web site they found. This person had a client list of nearly 700-900 women he scened with at $400 / scene.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 12:42:28 PM

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Oh, the professional male dominant said his clientele would usually climax but he had no sexual relations with them of any kind.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 1:23:48 PM

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Many doms, be they professional or not, session without having sex...many times I prefer a scene without sex, as sex would ruin my headspace.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 1:40:53 PM

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Excuse My presance Masters

SEX for
pay is
against
the law
in most
states
of the
US and
many
countrys
abroad.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 1:56:50 PM

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Some local disk jockeys were talking by phone to a professional male dominant <snip>.

Sinergy

So they say!

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 1:58:46 PM

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When I do sessions, intercourse is not part of it. If someone were to ask they would be dismissed.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/14/2004 4:21:50 PM

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I would seriously doubt there are very many Pro Doms if any at all. I don't think there is a big demand for them.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/15/2004 1:29:18 AM

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Some local disk jockeys were talking by phone to a professional male dominant whose web site they found. This person had a client list of nearly 700-900 women he scened with at $400 / scene.

Rick & Bubba never had it so good.

DJ's have a tendency to create things, an activity popularized by Howard Stern. Just because they say it does not mean it has one iotta of truth to it... DJ's are entertainers, and many have low scrupples, and will say anything to boost their ratings or listeners. Hearing a radio DJ quoting from a personal web site simply is not very convincing to me, but then I'm a hard-headed person who is not convinced very easily.

Actually, I've never even heard of the term "Pro Dom" before this thread... they may in fact be an extinct species of male dominant... incapable of sustainment in a world where most primary bread winners are males, supporting their wives/gf's who are not allowed to bounce checks simply to attempt to sustain the Pro Dom.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/15/2004 8:21:05 AM

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Yes, there are pro male dominants. I've only known a few and they either didn't stay pros for very long or they were actually living off of or with a female pro and 'making themself available' for prosessions. My experience with them is limited but they do exist.

My understanding is that professional dominants, be they male or female, do not have sex in session. Hookers with whips do, but that's not what this thread is about.

By and large, and as a gross generalization, it is men who pay for professional sessions. Occasionally women do, but in my experience that's pretty rare. It would not surprise me to learn that most pro sessions done by male dominants are with paying male submissives.

That's my take on it.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/15/2004 2:28:43 PM

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quote:

Hookers with whips do, but that's not what this thread is about.

MizSuz, You've really hit the nail on the head there. 'scuse Me while I wipe the tears from My eyes.....

I have to confess, though, I get so much fun out of getting to the end of a session with the occasional moron who thought he'd try some kinky sex for a change without then even getting a glimpse of what they thought they'd get. By that time, I've scared them so much I can make them crawl to door on their hands and knees, feeling really, really humiliated.
I so wish I had a camera at those times

Back on topic.
I understand that gay ProDoms are very popular (At least among my gay friends).
I also understand that gay ProDoms sway heavily towards real sadism/masochism. I was recently speaking with a gay masochist aquaintance, he seeks out Doms who will provide blood play and beatings only stopping short of broken bones.
I also understand that it's very much an underground thing

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/15/2004 3:14:06 PM

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Like others, I've never actually met this rare creature called a Pro Dominant, but like their female counterparts, I would have a hard time imagining a Pro Dom that is even slightly worth the money, to include any real sexual interaction in their scenes.

On the flip side, I take a great deal of pleasure from including sex in my personal life/scenes.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/16/2004 9:51:21 AM

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I am, sorta, a ProDom.

That is, I have been paid for it, though I could not make a living of it, and it really only been three clients in five or so years.

My first situation arrose of of some friends of a friend who were a Lesibian Switch couple -or wanted to be- actually thay were both submissive, very enthusiastic, and a hazard to each other. J. was my friend, a waitress, who approched me witht the standard "you do, you kno, THAT STUFF, Right?", and went on to tell me that her friends were into it and needed some help. Seems they had dicided to do a hot wax scene, flipped a coin for who was top, Lucy lost the toss, tied Ethel down, and then, as they didn't have much in the way of candles, Mircowaved a box of Croyolas.

I actually screamed THEY DID WHAT?!!! at the bar.

Yes, they did. And they hadn't invented/discovered the safeword yet. fortunaly, most of the burns were first degree, and they hadn't got to the pink parts yet.

I made arrangements to meet them at the local borders, showed them the How to section, recommended a few books, gave some general advice.

They were Utterly giddy about the whole thing, and wanted me to teach them (which I was thinking would be a lot of fun), and they asked what I charge....

I managed to answer that I was at around 200 a session as though I had a price list written down somewhere and all they wanted to know was who soon, and was that 200 each?

We had four sessions that were just wonderful, and involved no sex (for me) and for Lucy's bitrthday a few months later, had a great Kidnapping/surprise party, which I didn't charge for, and during which they both served me orally, But that was almost more of a kink for them, then service for me.

I did three scenes with a neighbor who's husband had annouced his deep rooted desire to be her slave at the breakfast table one moring, and added that if she didn't do it, he was leaving (it actually worked out very well for them). Interesting the conversation started with"you do, you kno, THAT STUFF, Right?".

The third case was for a good friend who's health was failing to the point that he couldn't really work it, and wanted a nice Birthday present for his girl. He wanted to pay me as a manner of keeping control over the whole thing. That went pretty well, too. He was there for the whole thing, and again, They had sex, I didn't.

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/17/2004 3:05:09 PM

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That's an interesting story.. saved them from themselves and got paid for it in the process. Nice.

As to myself, I find myself way, WAY over on the other end of the spectrum in this conversation, as I think I can count the number of times I have been in a scene and not had sex during or afterwards on one hand. The way things run for me, with my Dominance manifesting in the mental, emotional, and sexual arenas, I could not have a scene and not incorporate sex into it at some point.

Self-admittedly, I have gotten very defensive about this in the past, as it has led some in our supposedly accepting lifestyle to label me as a wannabe. Just because I don't alwasy swing a flogger or paddle, in their eyes I am not a Dominant. That has led me to shy away from most BDSM groups. The last time I went to a munch, I saw the change in some people's expressions when I told them about myself and my brand of Dominance.

It's really disappointing, to say the least

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/17/2004 4:03:18 PM

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No experience with the Pro Dom side of it

Personally, for me it depends on who I am scening with - if it is at a play party/club, then no I do not include sex in the scene (even when scening with my sub) - if at home/hotel with my sub, then yes, sex is usually included

microwaved a box of crayolas -(shaking head)- God save us from the hands of amatuers - glad you were there topcat to straighten them out

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/17/2004 10:24:01 PM

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I, for one, can see the need for ProDoms. I am sub and married to vanilla. Years of hinting, providing articles describing a spanking, outright asking have done nothing to educate my husband. I have sought spankings and bdsm elsewhere. I prefer not to have sexual intercourse with men I don't love. However, most Doms turn the other way when that is said. I have had a couple of sessions that did not require me to give, at a minimum, oral. Where are the Doms who supposedly just like to inflict a red ass on a sub? Not in the south, I can attest to that. I've noticed that some Doms do a fine job of describing themselves, their beliefs and their desires in their profile. Others might as well just say, "Let's fuck."
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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/18/2004 6:42:39 AM

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actually I was thinking of a session where a straight male goes to see a male Domme
and is either forced to give head or taken anally by the Domme. I could even see a
Dom couple putting a submisiive male in this postion

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/18/2004 11:57:02 AM

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Dixie

I am sympathetic with your plight. At the same time I will point out that there are a good number of Doms who will and do administer with no sex exchange. I believe the major problem is one of communication. ie; finding the Dom who shares your desires. One who takes his/her pleasure in meting out pain wihout sex.

Best wishes to you,

Jason

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RE: Sex in sessions - 5/18/2004 1:08:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: inyouagain

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy
Some local disk jockeys were talking by phone to a professional male dominant whose web site they found. This person had a client list of nearly 700-900 women he scened with at $400 / scene.

Rick & Bubba never had it so good.

DJ's have a tendency to create things, an activity popularized by Howard Stern. Just because they say it does not mean it has one iotta of truth to it... DJ's are entertainers, and many have low scrupples, and will say anything to boost their ratings or listeners. Hearing a radio DJ quoting from a personal web site simply is not very convincing to me, but then I'm a hard-headed person who is not convinced very easily.

Actually, I've never even heard of the term "Pro Dom" before this thread... they may in fact be an extinct species of male dominant... incapable of sustainment in a world where most primary bread winners are males, supporting their wives/gf's who are not allowed to bounce checks simply to attempt to sustain the Pro Dom.

Inyouagain

I feel the urge to back Sinergy up on this one. He is referring to Mark and Brian of KLOS radio in Los Angeles. I'm a fan too.
Anyway, a lot of people call into their show on a daily basis. Soem male dude called in proclaiming himself a pro Dominant. Alledegly(hmm, what was the number he claimed it to be real low?) I think he said there are only something like 10 pro male Dominants in the world today.
It all seemed pretty bogus to me as I was hearing it. He really didn't sound Dominant to me. Seemed a bit clueless but that is my take on it. I live the lifestyle a certain way. Sometimes I hear things that just don't fit into anything I've ever heard on it.
Although the dude did know what a safe call was. Even a safe word. His was some rather ODD word. Not the "RED" we all would know in a heartbeat if new. All of the pro's I have ever met in life always usually use red. Its basic and simple. Anyone use any different word if you're pro?
I really don't remember the name the guy said he went by. He also claimed to be married to his slave now. He has since left the lifestyle. Left it yet, married to his slave. Odd if you ask me. Also a pro Dom now.

Anyway, I know a few of you can see why I was more than a bit confused hearing this guy go on and on about the lifestyle in which I live.

I have never met a male pro Dom either.

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