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Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 1:59:12 AM

eyesopened

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i'm jaded enough that when a Dom tells me He wants to see my webcam (i don't currently own one) or wants me to take "private" photos for Him, my first reaction is to think "wanker". However, i can see where a potential Dom would like some "proof" that i am a biological female before meeting. i do have some pictures, but then i hear the argument that anyone can post a picture on the internet and how does He know that's really me.

The catch22 is that i say, meet me in person and then the question of my being "real" is answered and they say they don't want to go through the trouble of meeting me and then get a surprize when i'm not "real".

Others have indicated that we start online and that we develop a relationship that way before meeting in person. my problem is that until i can use all 5 senses and look into His eyes, they are still pretty much a box of text and i have never had a relationship with a text box. i don't want an online relationship, it doesn't work for me, for me, online is just a filter to tell me if i'm interested in meeting. However, if what i'm doing now isn't working, i should try something else. i do go to demos and munches when i can but in my area the folks are pretty much already coupled-up so all i get are a lot of offers to be a third.

Am i just being too rigid in my thinking? Are my instincts about "wanker" correct? Is there a compromise?

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 2:10:00 AM

SeveredNeuron

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I've been around in the online world for probably a bit too long, and i absolutely hate camming because of whats happened over the years.
Some of the people wanting to see you probably are wankers... but i find that others are looking for some kind of connection.. they find some solace in looking at a human person instead of a picture or animation on the screen.

I guess in the end it is always up to you in the choices you make. I would advise to get to know the people a little first.. see if you can laugh.. have a proper conversation (even though this isnt even indicative of whether you will click or not), and then perhaps turn on the cam unexpectedly (it will make them happy this way) but make sure that they understand that you may not like camming (if you do.. great!), and that it wont happen all the time. If they protest, explain again.. if it happens too much (constant demands for cam) then they probably arent after a long and fulfilling relationship.. rather a quick fix...

Hope it helps rather then harms!

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 2:18:32 AM

MistressMaamNH

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Because of all the wankers and dishonest people pretending to be something they are not, I too, have found many males want proof that I am a biological Female. I do not do cam, nor do I call on the phone. My one compromise that I have done, because I do know that it is a real concern regarding authenticity...I will record a short message (words of their choosing so they know it's not been pre-recorded) and then send them the file. If that does not satisfy them, then I know their suspicious nature is not something I am going to be willing to deal with later on, and I just wish them good luck on their search and move on.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 3:09:53 AM

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I don't own a cam and, even if I did, I doubt that I'd turn a cam on for anyone...unless I was already in a relationship with that person. A phone call seems the best way to me. I suppose someone might go to the trouble of disguising his or her voice, but it seems unlikely. I don't understand what's wrong with meeting in person...especially since you are agreeable to it. The worst thing that could possibly happen is that you make plans at somewhere YOU like and if the guy doesn't show, you spend a pleasant hour or two at a place you like. Make it interesting...the museum, art gallery, bookstore with a coffee shop, lunch. Good luck!

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 4:46:47 AM

asassylilslave

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I own a cam and yet, the minute someone tells me to turn it on so that I can 'prove' who I am, I say goodbye to that person. On the other hand, I have talked with some who never asked me if I even had one and after a time, volunteered to put it on for them so that they could see that I really was who I was.

I think it all depends on the person you are talking with and how comfortable you feel with that person over the INTERNET.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 6:52:07 AM

mymasterssub69

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i say "wanker".

i own a cam which i use only for Daddy and never for anyone else because once you starting camming with strangers, they will demand to see more than your pretty face - they want to see whole body in nude and/or sometimes ask that you perform for them as they jerk off.

when someone asks me if i cam, i simply reply "i don't cam or send nude pics of myself". if i don't get a response back from them, it tells me they were only looking to jerk off while looking at me.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 6:58:11 AM

MasterFireMaam

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It sounds like if they're not willing to put out some kind of trust in that area, you are unwilling to trust in others. This sounds perfectly reasonable to me. If you don't want to share intimate pictures, you have that right. Just know that others have the right to react in whatever way they wish to your actions. In the end, that really doesn't have anything to do with you and everything to do with "their stuff".

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 7:15:48 AM

juliaoceania

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In the past when someone emailed me demanding proof I was a female I never responded. I do have a webcam though, and if I was interested in someone and they wanted to see my cam, I might oblige, depending on the circumstances. I even showed things to my Daddy before we met..which is not something I have ever done for someone I met on a personals site....smiles. I am such a naughty girl! We had been talking almost 2 months on the phone, and it wasn't planned though. He did not demand it of me, it kinda just happened. In fact we had just cemented plans to meet in person... ahhhh memories!

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 7:21:17 AM

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I tell everyone the same thing... If I were not the person in the pictures posted with my profile I would most certainly find pics of a much better looking person to post. lol

Seriously eyesopened... please, don't send "private" pics, saying they want proof that you are female... well... life's a bitch and if they are that interested then meet you face to face or talk to you on the phone. Have you told them you want proof that they are male? Better yet... have you told them that you want proof that they are even capable of an erection?

Yeah, it screams wanker.

Just something to think about here... for me, if someone sent me those kinds of pics I would have problems meeting them face to face without "seeing" those pics in the back of my mind... that's not what I want on my mind when I'm going to meet them for the first time and that's not what I want lurking in my head when I'm trying to get to know them. Course that's just me.

Jewel

edited because sometimes I'm an idiot.

< Message edited by ShiftedJewel -- 1/29/2007 7:22:10 AM >

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 8:24:28 AM

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I would be very careful sending nude pictures or camming. Remember they can capture you on cam and turn it into a picture or video clip and send it to others or post it somewhere on the web. The same is true of allowing someone to take nude pictures of you, no matter how much you trust them.You don't know where your pictures can end up. My first r/l dom posted some pics of me in a photo contest on a public cam site without my permission.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 8:28:29 AM

BOUNTYHUNTER

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You have to be careful with your web cams there are so many capture systems our now that lets you capture the whole deal.They way I work the "proof" thing is for the slave/sub to send me a pic with a small note in the pic that simply says 4u..BH

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 8:33:51 AM

juliaoceania

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I agree, if you have a problem with those images being out on the net, you shouldn't have them taken. I didn't have a problem with that. I am an exhibitionist though

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 8:44:43 AM

littleone35

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Before i met my Master i would send them to my home page which has real pictures of me (G rated of course). So they could see i am real. I still think a phone call is the best thing though. I don't have a cam but if i did the only one who would see me would be Master. It is his not gonna give it to anyone else.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 8:52:05 AM

MissyRane

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I don't own a webcam, I'm not interested in getting one..heck I wouldn't put it up for a stranger..blah no ty
pictures? no I'm not comfortable with whatever pictures I give out to people e.g. I don't like showing out pictures of me and 'somebody(somebodies)' and I definitely don't share my pics to everyone that asks, I think all this asking for picture/cam thing is a bit...'low'

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 10:24:30 AM

Coupleseeking321

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I love my webcam it made me feel close to Master when we were far apart. I don't mind using it when I'm meeting someone but that's just my comfort level. Sometimes they are wankers but I think you gotta take a risk to get a reward.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 12:47:58 PM

SirKenin

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If I ask to see a cam, which is not very often, it is solely to see if they look as they say, and not some bullshit photograph that looks nothing like them. They do not need to get naked or anything, I just want to see a face. If the face scares me to the point where I just want to flush it then I just take a pass.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 12:48:07 PM

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It depends on what your comfort zone is.

Currently I don't like the state of my physique and I am honest with women about that. If they want a clip that has me shirtless, I have no problem as since if we meet, they'll see that anyway and I'd rather know before that if they'll be turned off, rather than make a good conversational connection then see diappointment if later I remove my clothes. In return it's fair for me to see clip of them.

If the clip or camming has no nudity and does not discuss sexual stuff, no one on the net will bother to look at it anyway so the risk of it being uploaded is minimal. It would be no more interesting than one of the millions of crappy clips about "oh see my cute kitty cat".

As long as things are fair and equal, I see no problem in a woman refusing cam crud, as long as she's fair about that and realises that means the male can say "no, I'm not sending more than one e-mail per week of 10 lines or less" or refusing phone dialogue if she refuses pics/etc.. e-mails can be copied and posted around too, easier than clips. What's good for the goose should be good for the gander.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 5:19:25 PM

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I think there is a compromise, but it's something you have to find on your own. Imo, it's not an unreasonable request to want to see someone on a webcam before meeting them in person. Turning a cam on takes all of five seconds. If they are wankers, you've unfortunately wasted five seconds of your time. What's five minutes when you could be talking to a potential partner, you know?

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 7:14:16 PM

Highheelfetish20

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I have been asked to cam for proof and did so in regualr clothes in a non-sexual way.

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RE: Cameras and Webcams - 1/29/2007 7:25:21 PM

newsubseeking61

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quote:

ORIGINAL: eyesopened
.... my problem is that until i can use all 5 senses and look into His eyes, they are still pretty much a box of text and i have never had a relationship with a text box. i don't want an online relationship, it doesn't work for me, for me, online is just a filter to tell me if i'm interested in meeting. ....

I, too, cannot trust much online until I see the person IN PERSON!

Actually, I use my cam somewhat as a screening device. When chatting with someone, I don't tell them that I have it or offer in advance. I just turn it on. I like that they can see what I look like for real and see my expressions. The best part is...if he tells me to "show 'em" I know that I can take him off my list. I have learned a lot about people when I use it.

jmt
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