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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/1/2007 8:33:02 PM   
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The crux of the matter is this: Are we allowed to our opinions?



    Of course.  And you are allowed to accept whatever reaction others, also entitled to their opinions, decide to point at you.  Freedom isn't free.  Sometimes you get to spend the rest of your life in the bed you make.


My response was based upon BH's assertions that celebrities should be held responsible for what they say if it is negative about troops, as if their opinions put troops in harm's way... you took my comment out of context to spin it.

I will state this again, for the record... when someone comes into my backyard and tries to take my freedom I will defend it... I do not need the American military to be in 138 countries to protect my freedom. They are not protecting my freedom, they are protecting capitalism for capitalists... so trying to state that my statements are bad for morale of troops that are stationed overseas fighting wars for oil is a little disingenuous, it is the people that sent them there that lowered their morale, not me.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/1/2007 8:35:34 PM   
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 And I wish I was flexy enough to get My ass to My mouth--got close when I was a dancer, but I haven't been practicing. Autocunnilingus, anyone?

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Should you decide to start practicing again I would sit in rapt anticipation of your success.
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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/1/2007 8:36:19 PM   
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So no, I don't agree that their suffering justifies committing an atrocity against an old woman--or any woman--no matter how dumb and wrongheaded she is. My aunt Shana back in 1973, when she was a student at SUNY Buffalo, hitched a ride with a Vietnam vet who then proceeded to rape her repeatedly and drive her around for two hours with her head in his lap and a knife at her neck, deciding whether or not to kill her. He justified this by what he had gone through in Vietnam. And yes, she was against the war and had told him so. And Shana is anything but dumb.



I have a friend who hitched around Europe in the late 60s climbing mountains.  One day, a trucker in France tried to make his moves on her, and she "stuck her ice axe in something soft and got out of the truck."

She said that her Danish grandmother used to tell her "You tell zem vonce, and zen you clip zem."

I was talking to her about my getting kicked in the head job years ago.

Time passed. 

I ran into her a month or so ago and told her that I had taken it up again after a medical retirement of over 10 years.

She looked at me for a long time and said "thank you for doing that." 

I was not aware that she had taken the class during my first retirement.

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p.s. To bring it back to the topic, some psychotic nut-bag inflicts a crime of violence on a woman, but the excuse he gives to justify his insanity doesnt really do it.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/1/2007 8:38:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

The crux of the matter is this: Are we allowed to our opinions?



      Of course.  And you are allowed to accept whatever reaction others, also entitled to their opinions, decide to point at you.  Freedom isn't free.  Sometimes you get to spend the rest of your life in the bed you make.


nam was never about freedom!  it was about lining pockets with green stuff just like the so called war we are fighting now.  you dont really think it was/is about freedom do you?

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/1/2007 9:30:08 PM   
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So it's irrelevant if she was actually correct?

You don't like her, so it's ok to denigrate her acts, without actually thinking about if those acts were justified?



She was correct?....

Her acts where justified?

How in the lord's hell do you consider anyone who calls servicemen...POWs even...war criminals, liars...and whatever else correct and justified?

I'm not talking about the government, you can spew on that all you want, and I wont give a shit, I might even agree with you on some points.

But you dont fuck with the boots on the ground.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/1/2007 9:32:38 PM   
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Rumtiger:
It would appear that you have now become a mind reader and know what I am thinking...which is something you have charged others of doing to you.  I have only asked you to clarify your position...if clarifying your position is degrading to you then how would that be something I could do,  Your thoughts, your definitions, your life.  I have not tried to simplify anything I have only asked you to tell me what your position is.  If you are uncomfortable in articulating that then perhaps we should discuss something else.
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My answer and position are more then clear enough. Suppose you'll just have to live with it then wont you?

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 8:50:55 AM   
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So it's irrelevant if she was actually correct?

You don't like her, so it's ok to denigrate her acts, without actually thinking about if those acts were justified?



She was correct?....

Her acts where justified?



THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING?

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How in the lord's hell do you consider anyone who calls servicemen...POWs even...war criminals, liars...and whatever else correct and justified?


If the war was unlawful, aren't they war criminals?

It's a simple enough idea. Was the Vietnam War Lawful, considering Diem was breaking a UN Mandate?



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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:25:28 AM   
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does anybody know exactly how many american soldiers lost their lives because of this woman? 

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:32:41 AM   
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does anybody know exactly how many american soldiers lost their lives because of this woman?


Unless someone's got something concrete, Zero?

Jane Fonda doesn't kill people.

Bullets moving really fast kill people.

And cholera kills babies.



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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:37:44 AM   
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speaking of bullets...I got me some new eyes and ears...Ibut finding time to go to the range seems like an impossible right now.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 9:44:28 AM   
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I love Jane    I hope she jumps out of a perfectly good airplane without a parachute and lands on a telephone pole and thrills herself to death.  

Bitch had a guy try to stop me from going home by ordering this guy to come through my window and steal my car keys.   He met Mr M1911A1 and backed off quickly.   Strange how that will open a hole in the crowd that blocked my way home.   Next time I just carried Mr M1 carbine on my dash and they stayed away.


KenDckey:
What did you ever do to Ms. Fonda that would cause her to order someone to come through your window and steal your car keys?

thompson


I had my wife and 2 babies in my car with me.   Guess it was because I lived on an Air Force Base.

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 10:07:52 AM   
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If the war was unlawful, aren't they war criminals?

It's a simple enough idea. Was the Vietnam War Lawful, considering Diem was breaking a UN Mandate?


it seems to me that illegal is illegal, crossing that point makes it a crime like it or not.  

they didnt put my boots on the ground but i was pissed originally about jane, however i have come to realize that she was in the end correct in premise.

The only mistake she made was to take it to far, by actually helping them to make her point.  The reason being is that would be treason had the declaration of war been official.   i disagree with her to this day  on how far she took it.  But once again she was correct in premise.


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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 10:48:27 AM   
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I love Jane    I hope she jumps out of a perfectly good airplane without a parachute and lands on a telephone pole and thrills herself to death.  

Bitch had a guy try to stop me from going home by ordering this guy to come through my window and steal my car keys.   He met Mr M1911A1 and backed off quickly.   Strange how that will open a hole in the crowd that blocked my way home.   Next time I just carried Mr M1 carbine on my dash and they stayed away.


KenDckey:
What did you ever do to Ms. Fonda that would cause her to order someone to come through your window and steal your car keys?

thompson


I had my wife and 2 babies in my car with me.   Guess it was because I lived on an Air Force Base.


KenDcky:
The AP at the gate allowed you to pass with an M1 Carbine on the dash of your car as you came and went...You must have been someone very special.
thompson

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 11:10:24 AM   
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So it's irrelevant if she was actually correct?

You don't like her, so it's ok to denigrate her acts, without actually thinking about if those acts were justified?



She was correct?....

Her acts where justified?

How in the lord's hell do you consider anyone who calls servicemen...POWs even...war criminals, liars...and whatever else correct and justified?

I'm not talking about the government, you can spew on that all you want, and I wont give a shit, I might even agree with you on some points.

But you dont fuck with the boots on the ground.


Rumtiger:
What is it exactly that makes the "boots on the ground" sacrosanct?  We were fighting an illegal war.  We were war criminals we were murderers but mostly we were tree snuffers.  When we could not find the "enemy" we just broke stuff up for the hell of it...they were called "targets of opportunity"  If you do not believe this perhaps you should acquaint yourself with names like Cam Ne and Mei Lei.  Since you were never there and you seem to have a limited knowledge of that conflict you look to be standing in pretty shallow water. 
I am curious how you might behave towards "boots on the ground" were you to find yourself, once you join the service, as a prison guard at Gitmo,  Would you treat your charges as honorable warriors or otherwise? 
thompson

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 11:19:11 AM   
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does anybody know exactly how many american soldiers lost their lives because of this woman? 


pantera:
I am curious as to how you or anyone else might think she was responsible for any deaths.
thompson

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 11:57:28 AM   
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Oh my my my........ 
I came into the forum to read the jokes lol - but just happened to notice the name Jane Fluckin Fonda and the hairs on the back of my neck stood up......  So... I felt the need to shoot my mouth off.......
I can't believe  the difference in the opinions of the younguns today.... and those of us who LIVED during the Vietnam era......   Sorry RumTiger, but dontcha think that it's sad that you kids today have to GO TO WAR in order to learn a skill and carve a career for yourself ???I sincerely hope that you get stationed in Sturgis :) Scary chit that we spend gazillions of dollars on toilet seats, weapons, and war - most that are OLD and do not protect our soldiers anyway.......... and zilch on really educating our kids ???  Somethin is definitely wrong with this picture. Remember - you younguns' will be witness to the after-effects of those who served in this war. And it ain't gonna be pretty......... I just hope that out country does the right thing by you..........
I can only imagine what our kids will have to face after Iraq is over. IF it ever is...... 
Anyway....................
Vietnam was NEVER  called a WAR -- it was called the Vietnam CONFLICT - and we were outta there when we realized that we could not win the "conflict"........
My ex served 2 tours there,  and came home with a helluvan opium habit. It took him 15 years to get clean in the states........ Yup -  the VA detoxes were a joke,,,, a revolving door,,,,,,, Plus he had many other problems that I could write a book about,,,,,,, and nowhere to go to get help. PTSD is a REAL thing ya know........... and our government has no money to take care of those men who served in THAT fiasco ????.........  Go volunteer at any VA hospital and you will see what I'm talkin about..... Playin bingo layin on your back for 30 years ain't a life,,,,,,, 
Maybe it'd be a good idea to pull outta Iraq - cuz it's obviously un-winnable...... and put OUR money into finally helping out our Viet Vets get the  help that they so desperately  need........... Like maybe get em offa the  streets because they're homeless and totally forgotten by our country...............  or help em any other way that we can..... 
I'm a member of the PGR - and there is a mission almost EVERY day.......
Not all of us support the war - but we ALL support the troops......









Y'all oughtta check it out..... 
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The Patriot Guard Riders is a diverse amalgamation of riders from across the nation. We have one thing in common besides motorcycles. We have an unwavering respect for those who risk their very lives for America’s freedom and security. If you share this respect, please join us.

We don't care what you ride or if you ride, what your political views are, or whether you're a hawk or a dove. It is not a requirement that you be a veteran. It doesn't matter where you're from or what your income is; you don't even have to ride. The only prerequisite is Respect.

Our main mission is to attend the funeral services of fallen American heroes as invited guests of the family. Each mission we undertake has two basic objectives.

1. Show our sincere respect for our fallen heroes, their families, and their communities.


2. Shield the mourning family and their friends from interruptions created by any protestor or group of protestors.

We accomplish the latter through strictly legal and non-violent means.

To those of you who are currently serving and fighting for the freedoms of others, at home and abroad, please know that we are backing you.  We honor and support you with every mission we carry out, and we are praying for a safe return home for all.
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So..........as far as that traitor Fonda goes, she'll always be Hanoi Jane to me.........  100 most admired women my ASS..........   Ok - I'm goin back to my corner now like a good little girl.... Need to laugh :)
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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 12:08:48 PM   
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does anybody know exactly how many american soldiers lost their lives because of this woman? 


pantera:
I am curious as to how you or anyone else might thing she was responsible for any deaths.
thompson


And nope Pantera - This is NOT one of those cyberspace hoaxes...........
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"Jane Fonda - She really was a traitor

A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."
BY BARBRA WALTERS
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison - the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" - Fonda - the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant's feet, which made that officer go berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action".

His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand.

When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?"

Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took all of the slivers of paper into her hand without missing a beat.

At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the enemy officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.

Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.

At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

Sincerely,

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of
Maintenance
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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 12:25:31 PM   
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Sorry, BabyGirlOooh, but it is a myth.

Obviously, she went to Hanoi, and people can make their own judgements, but what you posted is, indeed, another net fake, and full of lies.  Among other things, "Jerry Driscoll and Larry Carrigan have publicly denied the accounts attributed to them", so I don't know how honourable it is to put lies in their mouths.

I tend to think those who condemn her could find enough ammunition in the facts of her visit, so you're not helping them, either.

Here's just one of many sites that debunks this:
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/hanoijane.html

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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 12:32:14 PM   
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does anybody know exactly how many american soldiers lost their lives because of this woman? 


pantera:
I am curious as to how you or anyone else might thing she was responsible for any deaths.
thompson


No one can tell you if, or how many deaths Hanoi Jane caused. What is a definite  fact is  that the propoganda value of her visit was used to inflict torture and emotional distress on our POW's.  This makes her a war criminal to most servicemen. As a graduate of the USAF POW school I can tell you its an effective technique. If men died during this style of torture, Then she is partially responsible.
Did she have the right to protest the war in Vietnam and now Iraq. Sure.
But with that right comes a resposibility, making sure that your actions do not cause harm to our soldiers. There can be no defense to her travel to  and support of the North Vietnam regieme when this country is actively fighting and our soldiers are dying, being injured and captured.

On a side note.. I have noticed that for the most part, peace protesters tend to be people that would not do well in the military. We tend not to be hand holding coombya types. We belive in peace--- through superior fire power.
We train so others may live.

I watched a 20/20 new show yesterday and it showed how injured vets back from Iraq were healing through extreme sports in colorado. The one thing that stood out aside from how well these guys were recovering, was the overwhelming desire from most of them, was to return to their units. Its something that those who have never served, cannot fathom.

Be well and warm..
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RE: Jihad Jane??? - 2/2/2007 12:41:17 PM   
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Sorry, BabyGirlOooh, but it is a myth.

Obviously, she went to Hanoi, and people can make their own judgements, but what you posted is, indeed, another net fake, and full of lies.  Among other things, "Jerry Driscoll and Larry Carrigan have publicly denied the accounts attributed to them", so I don't know how honourable it is to put lies in their mouths.

I tend to think those who condemn her could find enough ammunition in the facts of her visit, so you're not helping them, either.

Here's just one of many sites that debunks this:
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/hanoijane.html


Ok babe...... Let's agree to disagree - because maybe I just don't like her lol.....
 
I'm very leery of wishy-washy people, and she fits the definition to a T........
 
In my humble opinion, she's back in the spotlight because it's very difficult for an actress in her 60's to get any kinda decent part in a film......... and she needs the attention......
 
But you know what they say about opinions lol........ 
 
Have a nice weekend........
 

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