RE: Britain and USA bad for children.

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MsStick -> RE: Britain and USA bad for children. (2/16/2007 3:48:22 AM)
quote: My feelings are if you don't like the EU, leave. Britain has the same attitude but for some reason they refuse to leave too. If we knew then what we know now... quote: If you want neutrality perhaps you shouldn't join an organisation such as the EU and remain neutral like Switzerland. We joined the EU with the understanding that it wouldn't be a problem that we wanted to keep our neutrality. We certainly weren't, as a people, given any indication that being a member state would mean we would have to 'put up and shut up' every time the big boys wanted to make a decision. We don't have population of germany, holland, or britain... but we have the right to an opinion all the same. Again, there's a big difference between what I hear the people want, and what our own governement provides.

meatcleaver -> RE: Britain and USA bad for children. (2/16/2007 5:15:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsStick We joined the EU with the understanding that it wouldn't be a problem that we wanted to keep our neutrality. We certainly weren't, as a people, given any indication that being a member state would mean we would have to 'put up and shut up' every time the big boys wanted to make a decision. We don't have population of germany, holland, or britain... but we have the right to an opinion all the same. Again, there's a big difference between what I hear the people want, and what our own governement provides. Just about every country complains about not being listened to and having to do what the 'others' tell them. The problem is that there are 25 members now and countries have to compromise to reach a decision. It sounds like Ireland has the same problem as Britain. It's politicians reach an agreement they know their citizens won't like and then go home and say it is all the French or the German's fault. Ireland has a vetoe on every important issue or any issue it sees against its own national interest. No one can make Ireland do what it doesn't want to do. If the Irish really felt agreived about the Nice treaty its people should have voted no a second time. Though I understand that like most people in most countries, people believe what the idiot eye in the corner of the room tells them.

MsStick -> RE: Britain and USA bad for children. (2/20/2007 3:41:23 AM)
quote: If the Irish really felt agreived about the Nice treaty its people should have voted no a second time. Though I understand that like most people in most countries, people believe what the idiot eye in the corner of the room tells them. Yes, unfortunately, they do. It was a particularly cynical move on the part of the govt, and the propoganda the second time went something along the lines of, "We realise you are too stupid to have understood the issues, and didn't really mean No, if you don't pass this thing this time, TERRIBLE THINGS WILL HAPPEN..." and the sheeple fell for it. Grrrr.

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