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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 8:23:59 AM   
findmedaddy


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: findmedaddy
I was amazed to see that LA is only 26 years old. That's a short time to have gained the experience and self-awareness you note.

Oops, I had my birthday last week and didn't update the profile.  I'm 27 now.

Does that help?


If you read that as a criticism, I apologize.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 8:26:45 AM   
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If you read that as a criticism, I apologize.

Nah just a bit of teasing tinged with remorse.  The older I get, the less surprising it will be to be as wise as I am. :)  A mixed blessing.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 8:29:29 AM   
findmedaddy


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: findmedaddy
If you read that as a criticism, I apologize.

Nah just a bit of teasing tinged with remorse.  The older I get, the less surprising it will be to be as wise as I am. :)  A mixed blessing.


Don't worry. You have a long way to go before you will be seen as anything but young....at least by those of *my* age!

< Message edited by findmedaddy -- 2/15/2007 8:30:18 AM >

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 8:47:31 AM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		Arastella,

No, it doesn't annoy *EVERYONE*, as you put it.

I'm not always doing a dippy-dance over LA's style of delivery because I am different type of person. But like it or not, I'd rather discuss subjects with people that don't inject emotion into them, that have a thought out opinion and are not as changeable as the wind.

If you've changed your previously glowing opinion of her in 5 short hours, I wonder what you based it on originally, considering everything you've been *told* about her.

You seem to have been *warned* and *told* an awful lot.........there's a lot to be said for taking the time to make your own mind up.

How does it feel to be so notorious LA?.........lol

agirl

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 8:52:46 AM   
Stephann


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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 9:04:05 AM   
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After being on these boards for a while now, I know that "our" dominants aren't wrong very often..but..(and isn't there always a but..lol)..

If you find out that you did indeed punish your submissive partner in (gasp) error, what do you do?

Inquiring minds and all that....

cheers
jk


I don't think it's possible in the relationship which I share with Himself for there to be an 'error' in punishment because of the process and steps we go through prior to punishment taking place. Over the last decade+, I can count on my hands (with plenty of fingers left over for more .. um.. demented activities) the number of times I've been punished. every one of those justified and deserved because of actions which I initiated or failed to initiate.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 9:04:16 AM   
agirl


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ORIGINAL: krikket

After being on these boards for a while now, I know that "our" dominants aren't wrong very often..but..(and isn't there always a but..lol)..

If you find out that you did indeed punish your submissive partner in (gasp) error, what do you do?

Inquiring minds and all that....

cheers
jk


It's not possible for me to be punished in error.

If I did receive a punishment that I didn't deserve, it would be my own fault. It would mean that I had refused to give him information to make a correct decision. It would mean that I hadn't spoken up, had held back or hidden things.......all of which is in my hands and is my responsibility.

I think he'd be a little cross with me and deservedly so. He'd have no reason to feel guilty.

agirl



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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 9:08:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		agirl, loved your post. It makes so much sense to me and is something I very much relate to.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 10:01:05 AM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		Thank you for saying so, ownedgirlie.

I find much of what you express about the *style* of ownership you live with, resonates with the one that I do...... even though I don't have the same feelings regarding serving and pleasing.

agirl



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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 11:55:09 AM   
beltainefaerie


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Status: offline 		I have only actually been punished 3 times.  Once was for accidentally "stealing" my Masters flogger when I was packing up our separate toy bags.  Once was for failing in an assigned task.  The third was for being a brat.  I did not perceive that I was, but He thought so, and that's good enough for me.  It doesn't really matter that I didn't think so.  I can still see how He thought it.  If he had been in error about a pnishment, he would apologize.
I have only had to punish my sub once.  She was very late and I was upset with her for not calling, etc.  If it came up that I had punished someone in error, I would apologize and we would move on.  I might get extra cuddly or not, but that mood strikes me sometimes anyway.  I don't think it would inspire or derive from guilt.

I also just want to toss my 2 cents in to say I definitely look for LA's posts and generally read them with joy.  I don't always agree, but things are almost always stated with wisdom and insight.

I was incredibly surprised to see slut bandied about as if it was an insult on this site noless!  Many, many of us are sluts.  In fact, aside from claiming the term myself, my sweet, vanilla husband teases me and calls me his "greedy little slut" as a term of endearment.  I also fail to see the connection between "slut" the rest of the argument.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 12:02:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl
How does it feel to be so notorious LA?.........lol

agirl

The Notorious L-I-Z?

Eh it's standard these days.  I don't expect everyone to love me, or even accept me.  In fact we've pretty much all got people here who really like us and who really dislike us.  But I would hope they would make an informed decision for themselves.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 12:04:28 PM   
TrueCalling


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Status: offline 		~shaking head~ Lucky Albatross can 'flame' me any day.. I've already got my hair up and protected! Sorry arastella, you lose!!

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 3:39:30 PM   
krikket


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Oops, I had my birthday last week and didn't update the profile.  I'm 27 now.

Does that help?


Two birthday girls in the same week -- happy belated birthday..lol

cheers
jk

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 3:53:03 PM   
krikket


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It's not possible for me to be punished in error.

If I did receive a punishment that I didn't deserve, it would be my own fault. It would mean that I had refused to give him information to make a correct decision. It would mean that I hadn't spoken up, had held back or hidden things.......all of which is in my hands and is my responsibility.

I think he'd be a little cross with me and deservedly so. He'd have no reason to feel guilty.

agirl


Although somewhat limited (ok..a whole lot limited..lol) in a D/s relationship this has been my experience as well.  I'm not the best in speaking up for myself -- much more likely to defend and protest for a friend or love one.  My original punishment had been one of separation rather than physical, so, as it was explained, my not speaking up sooner resulted in punishment for us both.  The second punishment I received for not speaking up sooner was a "talking to" I doubt I'll ever forget..lol.

And..just to satisfy some on here, my post was actually a result of reading one particular profile (can't remember which one) who said that when he punished it was his right, whether he had been wrong or not, and he sounded darn serious about it.  I hadn't really thought it much about before reading the profile and wondered if I was off the mark.

Thank y'all (each and every one) for writing.  It's always "nice" when my thoughts are shared by others, especially those I respect, and it makes me feel closer to home-base than out in left field.

cheers,
jk

PS: nice to see you again too LadyHugs.  Maybe one day I'll make it back to a munch. :)

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 4:09:17 PM   
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Thank you for saying so, ownedgirlie.

I find much of what you express about the *style* of ownership you live with, resonates with the one that I do...... even though I don't have the same feelings regarding serving and pleasing.

agirl


You are welcome, agirl, and yes I have found many similarities as well.  I always enjoy what you have to say.  :)

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/15/2007 10:56:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross


That's not an argument!


Yes it is!


Oh, and by the way, according to my calculations, I've been reading LA's postings (not necessarily on this forum) since she was 24. She's always been the same way really. She might very well be one of those people who popped out of the womb this way, though she claims to have spent years on self-growth and introspection, blah, blah, yeah right.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/16/2007 2:42:35 AM   
dirtyfemm


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Dear JK-
 
Punish them more- for my sins...
 
Stay warm,
Lawrence


He ain't kidding.

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/16/2007 9:19:30 AM   
agirl


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ORIGINAL: krikket


And..just to satisfy some on here, my post was actually a result of reading one particular profile (can't remember which one) who said that when he punished it was his right, whether he had been wrong or not, and he sounded darn serious about it.  I hadn't really thought it much about before reading the profile and wondered if I was off the mark.

Thank y'all (each and every one) for writing.  It's always "nice" when my thoughts are shared by others, especially those I respect, and it makes me feel closer to home-base than out in left field.

cheers,
jk


It does sound *odd* to actually SAY that you *have the right to punish, wrong or not*, but even so, M has the *right* to do that too, if he wished to.

Regards, agirl

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RE: When you're wrong - 2/16/2007 9:43:26 AM   
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 And..just to satisfy some on here, my post was actually a result of reading one particular profile (can't remember which one) who said that when he punished it was his right, whether he had been wrong or not, and he sounded darn serious about it.  I hadn't really thought it much about before reading the profile and wondered if I was off the mark. 


I wonder what this dominant hopes to accomplish with punishment ‘right or wrong’.  Although I don’t have a dynamic where punishment is meted out, it would seem to me that the goal of punishment would be to correct a behavior.         
I would find it quite confusing to be punished where no mistake had been made on my part. 
Another thought, however, is that he may define s+m as ‘punishment’.  There are many who believe they need to justify their sadistic activities by calling it punishment.  It may simply be a matter of semantics.


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RE: When you're wrong - 2/17/2007 3:40:13 PM   
krikket


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3 small words

2 heart felt moment...Thank You all...

huggles and kisses,
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