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HPV - 3/14/2005 1:10:28 PM   
terah


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I was just informed today that a dom that I was just with has a slave with hvp gential warts. He didn't tell she had a disease or that he had unprotected sex with her.Now I have to be tested because he was being careless as well as I was being careless with my trust. I want him to pay for any treatment that I need if I come up positive since he knew before we started that it is contagious disease. Yes he's on collar me and so is she.
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RE: HPV - 3/14/2005 4:01:28 PM   
submom2


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Status: offline 		Not saying this is something anyone would want to do. I wonder if there would be anything you could do legally about that. I do know, if someone knowingly slept with a person and they were HIV positive, without telling them they could get in a LOT of trouble. This is a little different, it's not life threatening. Yet, it does change your life forever. It's not something they have a cure for. The virus stays in your system. Of course, he could claim he didn't know about it. It's cruel though. We all make mistakes. I've learned to always use protection. Until, I'm in a relationship and completely trust him. Mutual testing would be a great idea also.

Edited to add, I'm very sorry for you. I hope everything turns out alright.

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RE: HPV - 3/14/2005 10:06:51 PM   
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I've learned to always use protection.


Condoms don't protect against HPV. It's transmitted by skin contact. I contracted a non wart variety of HPV from my first dom, but he had no idea he had it because there are no symptoms in men. Mine showed up as an abnormal pap, called cervical dysplasia. I had to have what's called a "LEEP" procedure. My next pap was normal, although i will always carry the virus. My HMO covered most of the expenses. Good luck with it terah.

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RE: HPV - 3/15/2005 7:26:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Going out on a limb here, but HPV is probably the most widespread version of an STD out there. There's LOTS of strains, it's very casually contracted.

The good news is that most strains are really harmless and most people will never know they even have it, specially men. It won't effect your day to day life. It can be riskier for women in causing cervical cancer, but routine screenings can help with that and it's very treatable in the early stages.

Education and information is the best defense here, so don't let fear and paranoia overwhelm you.

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RE: HPV - 3/15/2005 9:05:05 AM   
terah


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Status: offline 		I have a cervical fibriod whch I had abnormal cells. I been clear of any abnormal cells for 2 years now. He knew this. This scares me to death. He knew she had gential warts she told him in the beginning How can anyone be so careless with another person they claim to love? It makes me sick.

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RE: HPV - 4/22/2005 10:19:00 AM   
ILovePain13


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Status: offline 		I've got the cellular dysplasia also. But never any outbreaks. That means that I can transmit. No clue where I picked that up. It pisses me off that I'm generally a clean and safe person and I ended up with an STD before I was 16. I try to tell people but some just won't accept the facts that I have to admit that I've omitted it before. I always tell long-term partners but I figure that the people who assure me that they get tested regularily will know the stats on something like that and are aware of the risks of fucking around.
If I had outbreaks I would be much more careful about telling people as that is more concerning but look at the stats for all HPV. 86% of all women will come into contact with HPV at some point. 3/4 of all sexually active college kids have HPV and the stats for herpes are even worse. Luckily I've avoided that one, but 90% of all americans have some form of herpes-eeek!!! When I tell people about my HPV I immediately give them the stats. The people under 25 are often more skeptical or freaked out but when they realize that they most likely already have it and that there are no symptoms for what I have they usually don't care.
Honesty counts and I wish I had known who gave me HPV but I'll never know (lack of symptoms and no male testing). I've had a bad smear, a good one then another bad in the last year. Hope my body beats it but not much to do but take care of myself. I sincerely apologize and offer any support to those with HPV issues or those who contracted it unknowingly. Concious people who don't tell they're partners will be judged harshly by me and I'm sorry for they're victims. I don't know exactly what they are but there are laws about conciously spreading disease. I doubt HPV would make a good case but for more dangerous STD's find out what you can if you are a victim because someone who spreads something like HIV out of bitterness or neglect needs to be in jail. No sympathy there. I wouldn't leave a partner if they had an STD unless they didn't tell me. FYI-the supplement Lysine suppreses skin viruses like HPV or Herpes. Can be bought where the rest of your vitamins are and as always-hygiene and safety is good (dont' overdouche)
Well, hope I was helpful.

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RE: HPV - 4/22/2005 9:13:15 PM   
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I doubt HPV would make a good case but for more dangerous STD's


HPV is very dangerous for women who don't get regular paps since it can develop into cervical cancer if not treated.

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RE: HPV - 4/23/2005 6:28:43 PM   
ILovePain13


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Status: offline 		Notice the "if". "If a woman doesn't get regular paps." which is the responsibility of the woman. And with the lack of testing for males with no outbreaks it would be impossible to prove unless the woman was a complete virgin beforehand. How do you prove that one either?

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RE: HPV - 5/10/2005 4:32:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would get tested and document this. Keep a journal.

There have been cases of people being jailed for infecting someone with HIV.

Since HPV can (not always) lead to cervical cancer in women, this could develop later into more problems. Then again it could not. At the very least I'd report him and her to the health department. They track people spreading communicable diseases. If your area starts to see an increase in HPV cases it could become something of a problem for the medical community and thus he's caused a problem. Granted it's not like HIV or HepC but I'd still report them.

I was 18 and never had unprotected sex in my life and had a bad pap. I had a horrible female doctor who told me that any young girl having sex before marriage deserved what she got. She told me it was HPV (told I got it from unprotected sex) and I had cryo freeze done. Now, I'm 33 and I'm wiser and able to do more research.

I recently turned up with a bad pap. The statistics on paps being read wrong are incredible so I demanded another pap. That clinic wouldn't do it so I went to Planned Parenthood. That pap turned up bad too. So I had to go in for the colposcopy - where they use the speculum and then look at you with a microscope to see the bad cells. They found nothing. They've referred me to an OBGYN where I'm told he'll try to get further up my cervix to see if cells deeper in are the problem.

I asked why they would need to do that if the pap only took the cells from the exposed or visible area. They couldn't answer me. I asked if having had sex a few weeks before my pap the first time could have triggered a false positive. They couldn't answer me. I asked how it is that a second pap came back bad but they can't find anything. Again the couldn't answer me. They can't answer because frankly not enough reasearch has been done on women's health issues - especially reproductive issues. It's only been with in the last 20 years that they've researched that women have different signs than men do that they are having a heart attack.

My mother, married to my father for over 30 years. They are no swingers (I'm out to them about kink and they've shared they do not share partners). After I had my problems at 18 my mother had irregular paps. She had the same procedure done as I. She was never told it was an STD. EVER. My aunt (father's sister) developed the same problems. She was married. She was never told it was an STD. EVER. Yet I'm single, having sex out of marriage and the first words out of their mouth are "STD". HMMMM

I was told by doctors that dysplasia and HPV are the same. I was told by another doctor that it's not. I worked in the medical field for a while and understand how to read my chart. I asked to see my pathology report for the first bad pap this last year. They listed it as "HPV/Dysplasia". Interesting - because if they were two seperate things, the medical field would assign them two different codes.

A friend of my mother's had a bad pap. She waited and her body cleared it. She was told it was displasia.

Several folks have given statistics. I have read numerous things on this subject because I'm affected by it. One thing I can tell you for certain. There is not enough research done on this to have an absolute answer to what it is, how you get it, and if it's curable. As long as women can talk openly, share information, question our doctors and their knowledge we will learn more about how to protect ourselves and how to treat such things.

People can tell you to not stress out over it, but you will, I did. Best thing to do is to face it head on - YOU take charge of it, not it take charge of you. Learn from this, educate yourself, talk to other women and potential partners.

Good luck to you!

If you need/want a ear drop me a line privately - I'd be happy to listen.

~Em

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RE: HPV - 5/11/2005 7:12:01 PM   
jerseygirlie


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Status: offline 		HPV can be life threatening, certain strains of it can result in cervical cancer, i speak from personal experience, nothing to lose in asking a lawyer about that. and how absolutely shitty to do that, i really do not understand some folks, sad really.

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RE: HPV - 2/5/2008 12:31:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: terah


I was just informed today that a dom that I was just with has a slave with hvp gential warts. He didn't tell she had a disease or that he had unprotected sex with her.Now I have to be tested because he was being careless as well as I was being careless with my trust. I want him to pay for any treatment that I need if I come up positive since he knew before we started that it is contagious disease. Yes he's on collar me and so is she.

Most people do not know that they even have HPV and in men it is actually impossible to tell for most strains since you can not be tested for it. The only way to tell is if you have one of the very fiew types of hpv that shows warts.

IF someone is infected with HPV (ie: the estimated > 80% of the sexualy active population) it does not mean that they are contagious or even have the virus there entire life. It does go away. The chance of developing cervical cancer from hpv is pretty slim. There are very few high risk strains and most are unditectable on men. Even with those very few strains a very small portion and I mean very small will develope cancer from it.

But deffinatly be aware and get regular check ups paps. http://www.collarchat.com/m_1598800/tm.htm

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RE: HPV - 2/9/2008 11:12:43 AM   
slaverosebeauty


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ORIGINAL: proudsub
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I doubt HPV would make a good case but for more dangerous STD's


HPV is very dangerous for women who don't get regular paps since it can develop into cervical cancer if not treated.


The few strains of HPV that can and do cause Cervical Cancer CAN kill if a woman doesn't know. I lost an aunt 3 weeks before I had surgery to remove abnormal cells [she had full blown cervical cancer and hadn't been to a dr in years].  I lucked out, the cells in my body were matasticizing and I would have had cancer if I had not been so proactive and on top of things for years. I am in the all clear and NO traces are in my body; I am very carefull now and a LOT more educated.
 
It's not like paps hurt, they might be a bit uncomfortable, but so is a lot of things, especially in this lifestyle. I have had biopsies, cryotherapy, and surtgery. It was ALL worth it to NOT have cancer and then have to go through even more discomfort and pain.
 
My nurse practioner told me that they have OVER 100 cases of 'abnormal' pap results in their office and that ALL those women were notified and asked to come back for a repap and biopsy if neccessary, of those only 10 came back and of those only 3 had biopsies [those were just the newest numbers and NOT including the ones from previous year and months]. I almost wonder how many of those women will find out in 10 or 20yrs they have cancer and that it could have been prevented. It's sad and disturbing.

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RE: HPV - 2/9/2008 11:30:23 AM   
SugarMyChurro


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Status: offline 		People, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

HPV and Herpes are really easy to get. Both are easy to get from what are effectively non-sexual contacts - certainly sex is not the only way to acquire these diseases. If you can't deal with it, you are most likely in the wrong lifestyle. In fact, dating, being single, sex with others, greeting people by kissing their cheeks or lips, etc. are all things that you should rule out right now.



Don't forget to sue!

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RE: HPV - 2/9/2008 5:11:54 PM   
angelikaJ


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Status: offline 		At present I am unable to find the link but research suggests that HPV may also be responsible for mouth, throat, esophageal, and thyroid cancers...


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RE: HPV - 2/9/2008 9:01:05 PM   
SugarMyChurro


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FWIW, these news items might be guerrilla marketing on the part of the U.S. licensee of Gardasil. I still favor the vaccine's use for prevention of HPV, but I am willing to see a profit motive in the prevalence of these scare-based news stories.



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RE: HPV - 2/9/2008 9:13:55 PM   
angelikaJ


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there is another vaccine in the works by a different company as well....

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RE: HPV - 2/9/2008 11:10:18 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		Have you had a conversation about the information this person had? It is best to assume no form of malignant intent when ignorance could explain this man's actions. Perhaps he was not aware he could be a carrier of the disease? Perhaps he assumed that since he does not have warts that he does not have the virus? Perhaps he is as ignorant as most people are about HPV?

He may not have known he exposed you to any risks, and before you assume he had a callous disregard for your heath you may want to try to give him the benefit of the doubt by having a conversation with him on what he knows about the spread of his wife's disease. He could very well have assumed it was not a problem since he didn't have the warts... unfortunately people do stupid shit daily.


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RE: HPV - 2/10/2008 3:16:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Emmmrld



Since HPV can (not always) lead to cervical cancer in women, this could develop later into more problems.
Another issue is that women who have HPV and then have a vaginal birth can transmit HPV to their child in the form of a respiratory disease.

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RE: HPV - 2/11/2008 3:44:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gardasil only aids in 6 out of 300+ HPV strains of the virus. Scare tactics from the govt wouldn't make me give such poison to my daughters.

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RE: HPV - 2/18/2008 11:56:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: came4U

Gardasil only aids in 6 out of 300+ HPV strains of the virus. Scare tactics from the govt wouldn't make me give such poison to my daughters.


Talk about scare tactics I think we are talking mainly about genital hpv of which there are only about 30 known types not 300... just to clarify :) And thats from the CDC which keeps track of this stuff.

and actually its 4 out of the 10 that are high risk for causing cervical cancer. And for those who dont know guess what a Gardasil is... :)


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