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michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/22/2007 9:48:22 PM)

i currently am on disability due to my depression, it is a real problem with or without meds. as for me, i seem to become immune to meds after about three months of regular usage and then they stop working. i have been on every anti-depressant, anti-psychotic and other mind altering meds that are currently on the market, either by themselves or in any number of combinations...and i am still having issues.




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/23/2007 12:26:48 PM)

      yes, depression can be a disability....believe me on that one. I suffer from severe bouts of depression, bipolar disorder along with ADHD....My medications "help" but I still have very bad days.




blackwinterbyrd -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/25/2007 8:17:49 AM)

yo.
depressed here.  have diagnosis, will get therapy covered by insurance.

do not mock the disabilities you can't see.  I once loved someone for 9 years who had some kind of problem... I was completely fed up.  I have no patience for others like myself or with emotional problems who just wallow.  I have intense envy for those whose partners or parents allow them total inactivity and relief from any responsibility. 
some people think an invisible disability will make your life easier; now you have an excuse.   Not so.  It makes life harder because there is no excuse, just an obstacle to daily living you have that others don't.




LeatherBentOne -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/25/2007 12:15:27 PM)

My empathy and good wishes go out to those who suffer depression.  I could type a laundry list of my medical disabilities that would make your hair curl.  In fact, they once did a show on Medical Incredibles about my disease.  I suffer from depression, as well, but luckily my meds do the trick and I didn't have to go through a phlethora of them to find the right ones. 

I hope that one day people without depression will finally get a grasp on what the disease is all about.  However, I don't think that day is soon to come until they experience depression first hand.  We tend to deny that which we know nothing about and fear the most, because then we don't have to deal with it.  But, I'm not holding my breath.  I have too much to live for.

LBO




hisannabelle -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/25/2007 3:27:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: myobedience

velvetears asked in another forum:   When did depression become a disability?  i would be curious to know why he takes on that label and if it disabled him why he would stop taking his meds?
There are many here who have genuine medical and or psycholigcal disabilities.
Depression CAN become a disability IMHO when you cease to be able to function in activities of daily living.
A persons OWN responsiblity to their disability would be questioned if  a relationship evolves/developes around that person, IMHO.


i have disabling chronic pain from a fractured vertebrae, disk problems, migraines, and arthritis, as well as fibromyalgia. i've had disabling depression, as well as post traumatic stress disorder and generalized anxiety. some of the same symptoms of chronic pain - not being able to get out of bed, etc. - can be exemplified in the kind of hopelessness that comes from debilitating depression. i definitely believe that depression can be disabling, but like every kind of disability, i think people have a responsibility to themselves and their loved ones to do the best they can to get well, or at least to manage as well as possible.




hisannabelle -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/25/2007 3:28:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: blackwinterbyrd
some people think an invisible disability will make your life easier; now you have an excuse.   Not so.  It makes life harder because there is no excuse, just an obstacle to daily living you have that others don't.


so true.




SCDommie -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/25/2007 5:09:26 PM)

Depression became a disability thanks to the efforts of Tipper Gore during the Clinton Administration.  It is a very serious illness that can cause one to be totally down for periods of time.  Medications are expensive.   It takes a lot to get the right combination to work.
I am Bipolar.   I just went through a period of mania.  Fortunately, I knew this, and went to my doctor.  He adjusted my meds. 
I have not been able to work for two years because of this illness and hearing loss.  But now, thanks to new developments in hearing aides and medication, I have returned to work part-time.  I will never make the money I did before, but I really hated the work I was doing.  
My meds cost us about $200 per month.   There is no way of not taking them.  

SCD




ownedgirlie -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/27/2007 8:58:58 AM)

~ fast reply ~

Now that we see and understand Depression can qualify as a disability, I'd like to pose a twist to this question.  At what point do family and friends "excuse" this disability when those with depression, bi-polar, and other ailments start hurting us with their behaviors?  At what point do family and friends stop "enabling" erratic and hurtful behavior  as a way of self preservation, and force the one with depression, or any mental illness for that matter, to become accountable and manage their disease appropriately?  Otherwise, wouldn't it be the same as someone with a physical ailment who doesn't take treatment yet expects the family to adjust, excuse and forgive?

Illness of any kind can be emotionally draining on loved ones.  Even more so when the sufferer of such illnesses has no reverse compassion for those caring for him/her. I am interested in what those of you who suffer from such ailments see as your part in your recovery, and what expectations you have on those around you in your plight.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/27/2007 9:23:59 AM)

I really don't actually.  I tried and it ruined me for awhile.  I will let them know that I love them and support them, but I will distance myself from them if their behavior is not appropriately controlled.

I know that this might only increase their sense of depression, but that is their issue to deal with- to stay involved would only allow the behavior to continue and make me miserable.




daddysprop247 -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/27/2007 9:30:18 AM)

ownedgirlie, you pose a really good question, and from the often unheard/ignored perspective of a loved one of someone with a psychological/emotional illness. i believe that a person should always be held accountable for their own actions, especially if they are effecting others. it also infuriates me when those with mental illness use it as an excuse to generally treat those around them like crap, and i wouldn't expect the loved ones to tolerate this. however it must also be understood that medical treatment for depression is not always effective...and in some cases can only exacerbate the situation....not to mention the deplorable ways with which those with illnesses like depression are still treated by the mainstream medical community....so if a person is resistant to seeking treatment, they may have a very good reason for doing so. unfortunately there is no guarantee that any drug or combination of drugs, any sort of talk-therapy or shock therapy or whatever else, is going to give a person suffering from depression even one ounce of relief. there comes a time for many of us when you just get tired of trying....tired of treatment after treatment not working, tired of building up your hopes only to end up as miserable as always in the end. and then when those around you see you still suffering, and are effected by the behavior caused by your depression, they look at you in frustration wondering, "why don't you just GET HELP!"...not understanding that it's just not that simple.

but i'm not so self-centered that i don't see how my depression (which has been with me since about 5yo) effects my Master, the person closest to me in this world. i know the pain, drama, heartache, frustration i put him through. times when i've struggled with eating disorders and SI, months-long periods where i could do nothing but sit and rock humming to myself in a corner, or scream constantly at the top of my lungs...and him just watching, not understanding this, not knowing how he could help and probably wondering what the heck had he gotten himself into. you mentioned expectations. well other than expecting him to tire of it and release me at some point, i have none. how could i expect a person to tolerate something like this year after year after year? i question his own sanity sometimes just because he does tolerate it. there have even been times when he has been like, "I just can't deal with this," and has begun the process of releasing me. but for some reason in the end he just never gives up.

this is why, to spare him further agony, suicide often comes to mind. yes i have no right to do it, and yes he would be very angry and hurt, but in the long run i know he would be spared so much...all the pain that comes with loving and living with someone with this disease. oftentimes the thought crosses my mind when i'm feeling unusually clear-headed, logical and emotionally calm. like duh, this is the obvious solution. it will just be better for everyone all-around. no more dealing with my fits, no more happy moments shattered because of my gloom and doom moods, no more checking me for cuts and bruises, or thinking that i'm dead everytime i don't answer the phone. just no more drama.

i can't respond from the perspective of a depression person with no compassion or concern for those around them....it may sound cold, but perhaps such people just need to be left alone. personally, thinking of the effect my illness has on my loved one keeps me constantly riddled with guilt.




ownedgirlie -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/27/2007 9:37:55 AM)

Thank you, prop, for a most touching look at what goes on in your heart and mind.  I hope you see, however, that suicide on your part would likely translate to him feeling he failed as a Master and a man, and would do more damage than loving you in your dark days ever could.  It seems to me it would be your final statement of taking back all control, since his wasn't good enough, no?

I appreciate both responses to the question I posed; thank you both.




JerseyKrissi72 -> RE: depression become a disability? (2/27/2007 11:42:13 AM)

        I should be able to get disability (looking into it now) I suffer with bi-polar disorder w/ serious bouts of depression and anxiety attacks, petit mal seizures which they are looking into now the exact cause of, hypothyroidism, ADHD,type 2 diabetes, MRSA and TMJ...There isn't a day that I'm not in pain in some sort or another. I still say that God doesn't give us what we cannot handle so I carry on and support my children the best way that I can and smile. Good luck to all those suffering.




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