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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:00:24 PM

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yes, i think everyone should have more freedom of expression....there's always the ignore option too

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:01:45 PM

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LOL Well sure, YOU are....but thems that wants the unmoderated forums need to also invest in flame retardent uniforms.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:02:38 PM

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I know who is going to be first on Mikey's ignore list.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:03:54 PM

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Michael you go into meltdown anytime someone says something to or about you that you don't like. I find it hard to believe you'd deal well with comments that weren't in the least moderated.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:09:48 PM

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yes, i think everyone should have more freedom of expression....there's always the ignore option too

Well, since you can't really say much you might as well enjoy the BBQ. They really gotta be running out of charcoal or people soon though.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:17:44 PM

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Poor Mike. Are people picking on you again?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:19:31 PM

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*loud scratch of the needle sliding across the record*

And they called it puppy love.....

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:24:03 PM

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yeah right.......I don't think so

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:43:06 PM

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I wouldn't wish him on my worst enemy. Needs and is refusing to believe he needs counseling. That is a very dangerous combination.

DBG isn't all that bad. Hey she took all that abuse from us and still has the backbone to come back and keep facing us. Gotta give her kudos for that. We just have to come to terms that this thread is ending with an "agree to disagree".

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 7:46:46 PM

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maybe she's just a masochist to keep coming back?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 8:41:51 PM

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i'll live...wish i could make my own, unrestrained, website...would be interesting to see how things would go

Do it.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 8:43:08 PM

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yes, i think everyone should have more freedom of expression....there's always the ignore option too

Darlin' you've been expressin' yourself. Just cause you have the freedom of expression doesn't you've got freedom from being told your opinions are based on faulty reasoning.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 8:44:36 PM

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Poor Mike. Are people picking on you again?

Let me guess - you saw a Springer episode defending hatred of all men?

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 8:54:51 PM

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No, I was just being goofy. He's not my type for real. I couldn't imagine hating my own gender.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 8:57:06 PM

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At least we can agree about that!

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/22/2007 9:04:25 PM

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You do need to remember that the state of Kansas has a population of
approx. 2,764, 075.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas.

The town you list as your residence on your profile has a population of approx. 13,770.
http://www.city-data.com/city/McPherson-Kansas.html

Contrast those statistics with a major metropolitan area
like New York City, 8.1 million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City

Boston, urban 4,313,000, metro 5,804,816
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston

The BosWash megapolis contains an estimated 16 million people,
stretching from Portland, Main to Chesapeake, Virgina.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosWash

The SanSan megapolis on the California coast extends from
San Francisco to San Diego, estimated population 36 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SanSan

London, U.K., urban area is 8.5 million and the metro area
is 12-14 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London

The population on Collar Me hails from all over North America and many other parts of the world.
Many people on CM live in large metropolitan areas with active Kink groups like TES, Black Rose,
Threshold, Society of Janus, etc.
And you have a much larger population of GLBTQ people in any metro area
than in a rural area.

Start reading and researching and learning about the world.
Greenery Press is a great place to start,
http://www.greenerypress.com/

Turn off the damn television and turn on your mind.
You will learn and experience a whole different reality.

Peace,

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How come you believe the people in the backwards place where you live (when you've told us you are afraid to stand up for someone being called faggot and such lest you be beaten up) yet it's so hard for us - the people who actually have the differing sexualities and who have done these things and have the real life experience - to get you to believe us? I mean, I know don't believe everything you read on the internet but come on...

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/23/2007 6:36:55 AM

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Women who perform sexual acts to please their Master are also bisexual or it would be a hard limit for them too.

I noticed you mentioned bisexual acts past, present or future - if you're straight, surely past isn't relevant as what you have or haven't done can't be changed?!

lol

Anyway, I tried being bisexual at the request of my ex Dom and it didn't work for me, so it became a hard limit. Last year, I switched (properly) for the first time -something I'd felt very apprehensious about doing before,- and whereas before I had no bisexual fantasies whatsoever, once I started considering the other side of the whip, my fantasies changed - motivations, activities I was interested in, even my sexuality, as a sub, being 100% straight, I find myself bi-curious as a Domme.

Yep, my profile isn't totally clear as it says sub - the problem is I can't tick both sub and Domme, I don't think of myself exactly as a switch, I don't think I could have a switch relationship which really meant anything, because the relationship itself would be confined to vanilla - (If I had one,) I wouldn't be happy dominating my Dom, or subbing to my sub!. Neither do I really want to tick both right now, as I'm looking for a Dom.

Life is not black and white.

Women who take part in bisexual acts, might genuinely be doing it for the sake of their Doms, and not getting anything out of it for themselves. "Bisexual" is an orientation, not an action.

As for why people lie about their sexuality, it's openly accepted for women to be bisexual; but women (and other men) are often critical of men for being bi. I'm not bothered whether a partner is straight or bi, just as long as if he's my Dom, he's still Dom with the guys if he's bi!

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/23/2007 8:23:40 AM

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Susie, I picked strong words such as repulsion and manipulation because I have spoken to subs who were forced into this situation. Without exception the relationships ended within weeks of the callous disregard of the sub's limits.

I've also spoken with some subs who were lied to and agreed to be the third. They did not know how the sub truly felt, they felt lied to and betrayed and they bear guilt for doing this even unwittingly to another woman.

If you could take it or leave it then it isn't a hard limit to you. There are things I do that don't turn me on, but forcing me to have sex with others is a hard limit, no matter their gender. And I imagine that even if you could be okay with having sex with some women, that doesn't mean all. Just as you're okay having sex with some men, but there are others you wouldn't have sex with.

However I freely admit to not having read most of this thread, all 68 pages or whatever it's up to now. So I can't address anything the op said in later posts, only in the first.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/23/2007 9:27:59 AM

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Susie, I picked strong words such as repulsion and manipulation because I have spoken to subs who were forced into this situation. Without exception the relationships ended within weeks of the callous disregard of the sub's limits.

Actually being forced into it, non-consent, was not the topic of the OP. Nonconsent is never acceptable. Her OP addressed the issue of wanting to be "forced" and how it was impossible for a straight person to have do a bisexual act, in particular - men.

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However I freely admit to not having read most of this thread, all 68 pages or whatever it's up to now. So I can't address anything the op said in later posts, only in the first.

It really doesn't matter anymore.

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RE: honesty about sexual orientation - 2/23/2007 10:23:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

However I freely admit to not having read most of this thread, all 68 pages or whatever it's up to now. So I can't address anything the op said in later posts, only in the first.

You have missed a whole lot of issues then that did not come up in the OP. As AquaticSub says it really doesn't matter now. I read all the posts which is maybe why my post may have seemed harsh to you.

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