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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 7:24:39 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		Wow, if she has bad pms now I'd hate to see what she's gonna be like in her 40's.  Truly.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 7:50:52 AM   
ShamsOfTabriz


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Status: offline 		Hmm... well, not exactly the outpouring of sympathetic support that I had hoped for. I suppose perhaps I should use this forum as a means of humiliation in the future. I am rather amused at how unsympathetic everyone is in both responses to the original post and to my replies. Not exactly a community built on compassion I guess...

This girl is 18, and despite vast obstacles has relocated to a new country, new altitude, new lifestyle. I doubt many people would have the courage to do that at her age. She is a fabulous girl, and I am extremely pleased with her.

As for the OP "situation", in summary, I made a mistake, she made a mistake. We both learn and grow stronger from it. The art is not to be perfect, but to perfect. I'm not entirely sure what all you posters get out of analyzing it, but we thank you and wish you all well, and look forward to visiting again real soon.

The Master.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 7:52:06 AM   
Arastella


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Status: offline 		If he doesn't even let you ask questions, then he isn't a dom.  There was no discussion of the incident before the punishment was given.  There should always be discussion so there is no confusion with either party.  And if he leaves candles lit and a free bird and leaves the house, he's an idiot.  Moreso that he left you tied up there.  You shouldn't trust this man.  He is not a dom.  He doesn't care for you, doesn't cherish you if he leaves you there with the possibility of you being harmed.  I'd say get out fast.  But thats just me.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 8:08:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Wow, if she has bad pms now I'd hate to see what she's gonna be like in her 40's.  Truly.


Yes, my sister is 43 and had to go on antidepressants for hormonal issues at 17 that almost made her suicidal back then. Emotions are harder to deal with when one lacks life experience and wisdom to know what is really worth getting upset over.... hormonal issues can be excerbated by life changing situations (for my sister the death of my father, for MissAbsinithe moving to a strange country and starting a master/slave relationship with someone she does not really know). If it were my kid (which is how I view someone her age) I would have a lot of compassion for her.. but that is just me

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 8:41:00 AM   
KatyLied


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moving to a strange country and starting a master/slave relationship with someone she does not really know


That doesn't produce sympathy in me, it produces wtf? 


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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 9:01:40 AM   
juliaoceania


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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

moving to a strange country and starting a master/slave relationship with someone she does not really know


That doesn't produce sympathy in me, it produces wtf? 



It does not produce a WTF response in me.. it is something I would expect from someone her age

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 9:02:22 AM   
happypervert


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quote:

Hmm... well, not exactly the outpouring of sympathetic support that I had hoped for. I suppose perhaps I should use this forum as a means of humiliation in the future. I am rather amused at how unsympathetic everyone is in both responses to the original post and to my replies. Not exactly a community built on compassion I guess..

Well, I am rather amused that you can adopt such a condescending tone after people give their honest reactions to a situation produced entirely by what you admit was your own fuck up, and  I'm amazed that you would expect "sympathetic support" for being such an idiot.

I'll give you some credit for at least owning up to your mistake; unfortunately, you squander that credit and more by whining about the reactions of the folks here who didn't respond to your little personal drama they way you want. Feel free to drop by anytime for another dose of humiliation; although you may win a battle of wits with that silly girl of yours it is clear that you are ill equipped to handle the piranhas around here.



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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 9:04:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Wow, if she has bad pms now I'd hate to see what she's gonna be like in her 40's.  Truly.


OK, I have to speak up about THIS, tho not necessarily about the topic here.  PMS can be debilitating at any age.  My daughter began having bad, and I mean katie-bar-the -door bad pms withing a year of beginning her periods.  In her case it was triggered by a tipped uterous, and no it did not make sense to me then but the docs all agreed her internal physical problems made it all worse because ... well, that may not be important.  But her pms and her peroids put her and everyone around her through hell from the time she was about 17.  Having a baby helped some, but finally having a hysterectomy was what it took to allow her more than 2weeks at a time of being pain free and able to be in a good mood!  So, please do not discount the fact that in some small number of women, pms "at its worst" can manifest very young.  Thank you.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 9:15:53 AM   
KatyLied


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So, please do not discount the fact that in some small number of women, pms "at its worst" can manifest very young. Thank you.


Hence my "please medicate yourself" comment. 


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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 10:08:14 AM   
adaddysgirl


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Status: offline 		Well, it's good that you both learned something.
 
i would only add one thing here.  Putting your sub in restraints she can get out of does not seem to serve a disciplinary purpose, does it?  Particularly if she knows she can get out of them.
 
If she does not know she can get out of them, then i could imagine that believing she was left alone, tied with no escape, with candles burning...must have scared the hell out of her. 
 
It might be wise to think up some safe, effective punishments....especially if she's expected to be around for the long term.
 
Just my .02
 
Daddysgirl

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 10:14:55 AM   
MagiksSlave


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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

He know says that she lied but how are we to know who to believe? He claims she's a liar and she says he is. Obviously there isn't any trust in this relationship and they are both overdue to move on and grow up.


Ditto..

and to add you can see how meture she is and how ready she is to be a slave (sorry but metrurity facotrs into being a slave or Master) by the fact that she is now running and hideing from the boards in what seems to me as menipulations to make us feel oh so bad for woonding her by beeing honest in our replies.. She now wants us to feel bad for beeing mean to her (I dont really think any of us where) because she is leaving.. Sorry but thats what I see here (and I do think that this has to be the meanest post here so sorry  I had to be the one to write it)


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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 10:23:53 AM   
ShamsOfTabriz


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ORIGINAL: happypervert
although you may win a battle of wits with that silly girl of yours it is clear that you are ill equipped to handle the piranhas around here.


If by piranha you mean the mindless, carnivorous fish, I think you do the posters an injustice. All the responses were well thought out and based on personal and common wisdom. I did not find them personally threatening or humiliating at all. The girl, while not silly, is young and submissive and impressionable, as evidenced by her response above. What I had hoped for in terms of "sympathetic support" was encouragement for the girl to rejoin this community and feel welcome in it. Her question was valid, if perhaps over dramatized, and I am pleased with the responses, especially with the ones that acknowledge that the important bit is the discussion of the event after it has transpired. I will retain my opinion that this community is a valuable resource, and reject your assessment that you are all mindless pirahna's devouring everything in sight and that only the "well equipped" should venture in these most dangerous waters.

Finally, as I am a bit of a sadist, I must respect female biology for being able to inflict monthly pain that I could never conceive. So I appreciate the posters who do acknowledge this most natural and beautiful torture.

Again, sincerest thanks to all posters who have taken the time to be part of our little personal drama.

Cheers.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 11:33:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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moving to a strange country and starting a master/slave relationship with someone she does not really know


That doesn't produce sympathy in me, it produces wtf? 



It does not produce a WTF response in me.. it is something I would expect from someone her age


Wow, and to think that I missed all of this fun never being a parent.

As to the 'natural and beautiful torture' comment that was made by the 'Master'.....

It isn't any fun getting hurt unless I'm on the giving end.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 11:44:12 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		Well it's new to me.  That's why I was wtf?  I have two um's near those ages, they've never moved to a foreign country to live with a stranger.  And I don't know of any in real life who have done it.  I guess I live a boring live.   

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 12:12:48 PM   
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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 1:40:07 PM   
wyldbrat


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Status: offline 		i have over 20 years life experience and have NEVER been left alone while in bondage.  Personally i think that your "Master" is an idiot to have done that. It matters not if he were sitting outside in the driveway, if he were not caring enough to not leave you unattended did he care enough to ensure that the ropes he tied you with were not going to affect nerves in the arms, wrists, knees, ankles and so forth?
i think you should tell him that you are worthy of an answer or explanation and if he won't/cant provide you with one you should consider just how far that trust really goes.
"I can hurt someone with needles
I can hurt someone with fireplay
I can hurt someone with flogging
I can hurt someone with paddles
a person can be killed with bondage so i never leave them unattended."
as said by Steve Indands a prominent person in the wicked world of bondage


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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 5:04:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

If your pms is so bad that you can't control yourself, please go get medicated.  It is weak to use pms as an excuse for anything.  How does that make women look?  Sheesh.  You are a woman, deal with it.


Pardon me... where did PMS enter into my last post?

I often joke about my PMS. As for the actual severity of my PMS, I don't see how it's any of your business.

Edited to say: Never mind... I'm pretty sure you just fast replied to me. Sorry!

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 2/22/2007 5:07:34 PM >

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 5:06:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

If your pms is so bad that you can't control yourself, please go get medicated.  It is weak to use pms as an excuse for anything.  How does that make women look?  Sheesh.  You are a woman, deal with it.


She is 18, and while that makes her an adult, she is hardly of an age where if she does have truly debilitating PMS that she would have necessarily been treated for it... Age is not necessarily an excuse for being out of control, but I have difficulty being hard on an 18 year old when some people old enough to be her mother or father that post here have acted worse. At 18 I was worse than half baked


Wait... whose PMS are we talking about... the last one was a response to me but I never mentioned PMS..... I'm confused! *Whimper*

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 5:42:28 PM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		Here's a chill pill....I hit fast reply.  SHEESH.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 5:49:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Here's a chill pill....I hit fast reply.  SHEESH.


*pokity pokity* Unless it's obvious it's very common for someone to assume that when a post says "in reply to... " in rely to the person it says. I don't see how you can be fussy that I didn't magically understand it from the start. *takes said chill pill and grinds it into a fine powder that she uses to grow flowers. Don't ask how*

Particularly when I even added never mind!

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