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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 8:09:34 AM

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Well betwen the OP and the OP's Master. Be this one person playing a game, or two people playing a game. Somebody is full of shit. However, the question itself is a valid question to explore on the message board.

In the OP opening post, it's clear that there is a Master/slave relationship going on. It's a pointless waste of time trying to fight over he if is a master or not. His role was defined in the OPs own words. That's like getting into a fight about a cat being a cat or not. Complete waste of time.

While the personas of the OP and her Master are questionable, and the intentions behind are equally of question. Still the question itself is valid.

Yes, this has turned into a mind fuck of sorts. It's actually pitted some other on one another, seeing some verbal pissing matches. I wonder if anybody is sitting back laughing their ass off. A sort of cyber bear trap laid down, to see who steps into it. Where we end up playing into it and choose sides, and get into a pissing match... forgetting about the Question itself. Be the question truth or creative fiction.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 8:17:50 AM

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Well I think that your point is those of us "against labeling others" did it here. I am one of those anti-labelers.. I do not try to tell people what they are.

Anyways, there are not hundreds of people that responded to this thread, so it ought to be extremely easy to find the labelers and call them on it by name instead of generalizing with "so many people" (actually I did not see one person say he was not a master, they said he was an asshole, but they never questioned his orientation that I saw)

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 8:34:41 AM

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did anyone read that he came back and explained that he did not tie her tight? that she typed that whole post while "hog tied"...and the whole aftermath thing she made up. i am all for discussing safty but she was not a victim she was just being recalcitrant, disobedient, dishonest and whiny and then tried to involve us all in the drama as well as to dog her daddy in public....

not cool.

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In point of fact, the girl was not "hog tied" but rather ankle/wrist cuffed with an X with four easily removable latches. Her hands are free, and can easily reach her ankles. The girl was a ballerina and is exceedingly flexible. Indeed, the girl found enough dexterity to get to the computer, open the laptop, and type that message while "restrained"... yes, this was just now and not last night. The aftermath, as she explained it, was entirely fabricated. I never said "don't ask questions", indeed, I encourage her to be inquisitive and insist that she speak her mind. I was, and remain confident that she could easily escape - mainly since she has before many times. It was an excercise in discipline, not bondage. All of which has, of course, since been properly explained. She is once again restrained as such, and I will supervise to, er, make certain that she can escape... :P

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 8:42:11 AM

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I saw it, which is why I have not commented further on this because frankly it is a message board and I cannot sort it out. Hopefully she is a game playing child and completely safe. That would be the best possible thing to be true in this situation.

We take people at face value by what they put out there, that is all we can do.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 9:35:07 AM

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[From the master]

In the light of another day, a few items of clarification should be made. First, it seems the girl was extremely premenstural. Second, the girl apparently did not realize that she could easily escape, and therefore could not. This is definitely a safety concern, and I was remiss in assuming that she knew how to escape. I never envisioned great danger. I ignored her concerns about fire. The candles were tea lights, and we do have a bird, and there was perhaps risk. I tacitly assumed that she understood how to unlatch the restraints, and I think that in a rational, calm situation she could have. As it was, she was not thinking clearly, and imagined herself in great peril. I failed to appreciate her state of mind and how she would respond. She is young and new to the role. I recently had her relocated to another country and this can be stressful for anyone.

I accept the responsibility for this situation, and apologize if anyone feels deceived. I do believe that the discussion was fruitful, though, and would encourage all posters to not be discouraged in the future from opining over such important issues of safety. Ours is a most serious and potentially dangerous game, and it is never irresponsible to over-react and be concerned.

I do not disapprove of her posting, and in fact would like to encourage her to do so again. However, she is humiliated and has deleted her account. I am perhaps more displeased by this action than the other. I will encourage her to create another. I hope that you will as well.

I love her very much. She is the most precious thing to me. Thank you for your concerns.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 9:47:26 AM

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Until she can control her behavior at least to the point of knowing she's not in control when she's PMSing and should avoid spilling certain things publicly, I don't think she should create another profile- or at least should not contribute to the public forum.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 1:16:54 PM

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never mind!!

gotta love all the drama though

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 1:53:52 PM

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Interesting in a soap opera-esque message board cyberland sort of weird way. She said He did but then He said she didn't ...

~wondering if it's sweeps week at CM, who shot JR, and if this is all just someone's bad dream (or a cute little postie gone awry)~

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 1:57:12 PM

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I apologize in advance for admitting that I haven't read any responses (OK, I caught the first few words of Susan's response. What a filthy liar I am.)

I have done quite a bit of writing on TPE relationships. I wouldn't have to be in one, but I believe in them and know how they ought to 'work'. Having said that ...

A TPE slave has one inalienable right that he/she cannot let the owner 'own', and that is the right to self-preservation. It is this right that allows a slave from walking away from a bad situation, i.e., if the slave feels that they are not being adequately taken care of.

The OP was not permitted that choice at that time. The fact alone that this was brought to us 'strangers' to give opinion is enough evidence that the slave feels that a problem was created.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for rules, consequences, punishment if need be. But if neglect is the consequence then one would have to consider whether the responsibilities that the owner agrees to carry out (in a TPE relationship) are being handled properly.

Need I say more?

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 2:17:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: slaveish
~wondering if it's sweeps week at CM, who shot JR, and if this is all just someone's bad dream (or a cute little postie gone awry)~

The fact that you know what sweeps week is gives you major points to me.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 3:26:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: MissAbsinthe

As a slave I made the choice to give total power exchange to my master, and with that I thought came the responsibility for my master to look out for my needs.
Yesterday evening this girl was unable to finish all her given tasks, and my master restrained me in a hogtied like position, which was fine, then left me there for the evening and went out.
I had no problem with the punishment aside the saftey aspects, for example what if there had been a fire?
I only ask this as he had left candles out everywhere not to mention an unsupervised large bird which could of flown into them!
When he returned I asked him and he simply told me not to ask questions, I trust my master as he is the one I serve but this girl is still confused so she thought she would ask the masters here as some of you may have experience.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.

DEFINITELY a very stupid act. He should not have left you alone in this way. Risking your life is not teaching you any lesson.

*edited for additions* I too didn't read all the way through this thread before posting. I still feel it was irresponsible, but her Master seems to be taking responsibility.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 3:39:13 PM

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I tacitly assumed that she understood how to unlatch the restraints,

What do you mean - you assumed?
Did you not write in another post she indeed could and has before?

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 4:07:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Until she can control her behavior at least to the point of knowing she's not in control when she's PMSing and should avoid spilling certain things publicly, I don't think she should create another profile- or at least should not contribute to the public forum.

I wont be creating another profile or contributing as you suggest ma'am, I apologise to everyone as clearly it is wrong to ask questions when you don't know the right terms to phrase them in, I did not know the name for my position but it seemed most like hogtied, and clearly I was not able to write the post until he had come back and untied me. I only showed my Master the post to try and express my concerns which at the time he would not listen to by voice, I thought if he saw that other people were concerned about it too he would see that what he did was a potentially dangerous situation, of course he became frustrated with some of the replies which I understand and wrote the reply on my behalf.
Thank you everyone for your posts, I took them all into consideration carefully and there were some very valid points, even in the nasty ones.
I enjoyed my short time here on collarme but understand why I should no longer contribute, i'll keep my questions to my head and hopefully learn from it.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 6:00:22 PM

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I would recommend you read the board as a way of discussing new ideas with your master. I am not going to judge whether you should contribute or not, but if you end up changing your mind about it I would recommend that you read different perspectives about things and that way you can learn, grow, and find out more of what your master expects and what you want too.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 6:05:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: DoctorDubious

Greetings all you fine opinion-hounds....

I'm wondering if MissAbsinthe
(of the erudite screen-name school)
really knows all that went on while she was restrained?

But I wonder even more
how all these fine perverted opinion-ators
can climb up on their cyber-soap-boxes
to denounce a situation that was incompletely described
by an observer who clearly doesn't know for sure what happened.

How do we know it wasn't a well-concieved mind-fuck?

Of course,
it's much easier just to let rip with the old...
...' that guy's a reckless jerk' rhetoric, eh?

DD, an old goat who still gets a chuckle
out of a simple little nefarious mind-fuck... candles and all.

And unless you are her or her master, you have no way of knowing it that it was a mind fuck.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/21/2007 6:14:48 PM

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I've skimmed through the posts and here is my opinion - for what it's worth.

Valyraen often binds me and pretends to leave. Sometimes he even makes me think that others are in the house. But he has never left me bound in a situation that I could not get out of. He has also never left me bound in a situation I didn't know I could get out of. In my opinion, if the exercise is about discipline, then as long as she is aware that she can get out (quickly) then I don't see a problem with her being bound and alone. But if she doesn't know, then panic can set in if there is an emergency. Just something to think about it if it hasn't been brought up yet.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 5:12:52 AM

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Dump him You are worth more that you get

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 5:40:15 AM

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If your pms is so bad that you can't control yourself, please go get medicated. It is weak to use pms as an excuse for anything. How does that make women look? Sheesh. You are a woman, deal with it.

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 7:08:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

If your pms is so bad that you can't control yourself, please go get medicated. It is weak to use pms as an excuse for anything. How does that make women look? Sheesh. You are a woman, deal with it.

She is 18, and while that makes her an adult, she is hardly of an age where if she does have truly debilitating PMS that she would have necessarily been treated for it... Age is not necessarily an excuse for being out of control, but I have difficulty being hard on an 18 year old when some people old enough to be her mother or father that post here have acted worse. At 18 I was worse than half baked

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RE: Question from a slave ''was what he did to me right?'' - 2/22/2007 7:14:12 AM

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He know says that she lied but how are we to know who to believe? He claims she's a liar and she says he is. Obviously there isn't any trust in this relationship and they are both overdue to move on and grow up.

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