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afraid -> Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:10:26 AM)

I need some help and guidance.  I have a man that I play with on a repeat basis.  He is not my owner we're just playmates.  He's recently asked that I perform a gang bang for him.  Although, I'd like to, it's one of the few remaining activities that I haven't done yet. 

Should I wait to perform this activity until I have an owner?  Kinda like save my gang bang virginity?




juliaoceania -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:13:46 AM)

I would ask how you feel about that, if it is something that you would want to reserve for an owner, then do so. If you feel comfortable with doing this and do not think you would regret it, then do it... I do not think anyone here can answer what is best for you but you




farglebargle -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:14:09 AM)

Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first.





LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:15:31 AM)

Agree with Julia, it's your choice to do whenever you like, no matter what activity it is.




afraid -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:16:46 AM)

Thanks farglebargle! lol! 
Julia, I'm totally and completely torn.  Maybe I should have posted in the "ask a Master" section.  I just mostly wanted to get a view on how important it is to a Master that their slave is "new" or if it matters at all?




slaveish -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:17:25 AM)

I don't believe a Master will hold a gang bang experience against you. If it excites you, if you want to do it, do it. (Don't just eat dessert first - make sure you eat the savory parts of the meal too, and knock it back with a good single malt.) Live.




toservez -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:18:28 AM)

Do you want to be gang banged and why?

If it is just something you want for fun/sexual pleasure then waiting to be owned does not seem to be an issue to me. If a gang bang is something you want because of feelings like objectification, humiliation and showing your devotion to someone is the real pleasure then I would wait to be owned.

It comes down to your motivation.





MadameShy -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:19:25 AM)

that is a personal choice darlin ,,

some wish to save there virginity some don't

some owners wish a untouched that way some would not care as long as it was before them

you will have to answer this one yourself

Myself ,, I would not care what the sub/slave/pet did before they Met me as long as it was safe sex and they are disease free by the time they get to Me

I realize part of love of gang bangs are ther circle jerk on the sub after But I just don't feel this is safe as DNA exchange is such a bad deal when you don't know the others disease factor ,,, I at least suggest condoms used....

sadisticly yet safe
Madame Shy




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:19:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: afraid
Thanks farglebargle! lol! 
Julia, I'm totally and completely torn.  Maybe I should have posted in the "ask a Master" section.  I just mostly wanted to get a view on how important it is to a Master that their slave is "new" or if it matters at all?


Does it matter?  Would you choose whether to do something based on what some future possible person might think of it?

It depends on the person, some prefer new, some don't care, some love more experiences.

But none of that matters- the right person will want you for you.  Choose for yourself.




afraid -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:21:49 AM)

Thank you toservez!  This is exactly the perspective I needed to hear(see)! 
Although the idea is exciting to me, it's exciting because of the objectification, humiliation and base-ness of the act.  You've helped answer my question perfectly!  Thank you sooo much!




Wulfchyld -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:24:34 AM)

How important is an Owner to you and how much "virginity" do you want to be able to offer him/her?




tangldupinblue -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:29:38 AM)

the experience will also change when its done with an owner, so you may be able to have you cake and eat it too. have fun now and be objectified later.

blue




afraid -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:30:23 AM)

Good question Wulfchyld
An owner is very important to me.  I think as toservz pointed out, because of my motivations behind why I'd want to do this act I will "save" it and wait until I can have the security of an Owner to guide me through the act properly. 
It's also important to me to factor in the effect to my playmate.  I think it a little unfair to expose him to the possible emotional fallout afterward because of those feelings etc...




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:32:34 AM)

ALL tho GBS are great, some times I ask a sub to save a particular part  herself for me ..don't ask smiles..IT depends on how you feel about it and just how much of yourself are you willing to give up for this casual play pardner of yours..I would say think about it and if it feels right then do it. Have fun...BH




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:33:56 AM)

She shouldn't "give up" anything for anyone but herself.

And it shouldn't be giving up- it should be gaining new.




Wulfchyld -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:41:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: afraid

Good question Wulfchyld
An owner is very important to me.  I think as toservz pointed out, because of my motivations behind why I'd want to do this act I will "save" it and wait until I can have the security of an Owner to guide me through the act properly. 
It's also important to me to factor in the effect to my playmate.  I think it a little unfair to expose him to the possible emotional fallout afterward because of those feelings etc...


I am pleased to see you are thinking. In any relationship we should have something reserved for our partners, not necessarily a physical reservation, but something that is sacred to the relationship.
 
What we reserve as sacred varies from person to person and I am happy to know that you are already weighing what will or won't be sacred for your future owner. I am also please that you are not allowing peer pressure to push you into an experience prematurely. A GB scene can be utopian or toxic, depending on the person respectively. It is wise to consider you may need the strength or your D to get you in, keep you in, and aftercare you into the proper headspace.




afraid -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:42:02 AM)

You've all been so helpful and I truly appreciate it!
   Sometimes when you're in "it" it's hard to see other perspectives or possible pitfalls.  Which is exactly why I posted, to avoid my own subjectivity.  Thank you all for your input!




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:45:56 AM)

Sounds like she wants to "GIVE" UP SOMETHING..BH




afraid -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 11:49:12 AM)

Lol!  No fighting allowed on this thread BH!
Thanks Wulf!  You bring up the ultra important point of aftercare which I had almost forgotten about. 




CreativeDominant -> RE: Gang Bang (2/21/2007 12:25:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: afraid

I need some help and guidance.  I have a man that I play with on a repeat basis.  He is not my owner we're just playmates.  He's recently asked that I perform a gang bang for him.  Although, I'd like to, it's one of the few remaining activities that I haven't done yet. 

Should I wait to perform this activity until I have an owner?  Kinda like save my gang bang virginity?


~smiles~...you've gotten some interesting responses but none of them have been bad advice. 

I am a 52 (today...yea! me) dominant.  Many of the submissives I deal with are going to be in the age range of 37 - 50.  Though I have dealt with a few younger than that, that is the age range I feel most comfortable in.  So, as expected, many of them have already experienced many of the "firsts"...first anal, first girl - on - girl, first 3-some, etc..  I could either sit back and wait for that elusive first-timer to everything or I could do as Wulfchyld notes and that is... look at the motivation behind their indulgence of these acts.  Were they just seeking "fun"?  Nothing wrong with that but it indicates to me that a particular act may not have the deep psychological complexities as something else.  Were they engaging in it with someone they loved deeply at the time AND because they trusted this person AND because doing it with/for them enhanced their D/s BDSM feelings in some way?  Perhaps in the way you noted...humiliation, objectification and ownership.  That would indicate to me that the act was something special and not engaged in "lightly" (for lack of a better term and used simply as a comparison).

There are things I love to do.  I don't do each and every one of them with every submissive I have ever played with casually.  A major reason for this is because I prefer to engage in certain ones of them with someone that I am more closely tied to.  There are at least two specific acts I would not do unless I was involved in a long-term relationship and had been for quite awhile.  There are other factors tied to the D/s aspects and the BDSM aspects that are also included in these decisions but when taken together, these acts represent things that really matter to me.

I know a young submissive who looks to me for guidance.  She had a habit of indulging in whatever act the dominant she was with wanted her to do and prided herself on doing so but at the same time was bothered by the fact that once these dominants knew that she would do this for any dominant she trusted enough to play with, they soon seemed to disappear...after playing with her for awhile of course.  When I brought up the above and suggested that she might make a list of those things she likes to do and attach some sort of emotional/spiritual "grade" to each act in terms of her own morality/spirituality/importance to her when considering another partner and his indulgence in the act with many vs only those he was deeply involved with, and what she was seeking from each act and then...look at it from the viewpoint of how a prospective, long-term dominant might look at the list...she began to find acts which she felt might be better suited to "saving" to share with someone special.

You have to find what works for you.  This is what I feel about things and what I have tried to share with others who've wanted a differing take from their own "do what feels good right now" view of things.




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