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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:21:51 AM   
CreatfreeAccount


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: CreatfreeAccount

You mean what's my question?  Reread the title. 

I do not need to reread the title.  I saw the question.  My question to you was not "what's the question" but what's your opinion on dominants who service their submissives?

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Here's a cut and paste to help satisfy you.

Thank you, however it really wasn't necessary.

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My opinion is that when a dom decides to do a sub like that sub requests that is a form of servicing and the dom is submitting (submitting to cater to the subs request) in a sense.

Good or bad?  Not relevant unless in your eyes it is. 

Here's a cut and paste of my question to you, in case you missed it:

"I am asking your opinion on dominants who "service" their subs as you say.  What are your thoughts on that?"

Care to answer that specifically?



Are you always this classy and appealing?  I am honored you are giving me your valuable time.

To answer your question pertaining to a dom who SERVICES their subs requests------- it is neither a good thing or a bad thing.  It is neither wrong nor right. 

Is it a reality that doms service their subs, seems like the answer is "Yes" and no for some.

Thanks for participating.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:23:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it was a sincere question from a complete Newbie. I really do. Let us not forget there are people who are totally and completely new to all this.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:27:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for your maturity.  Some vulture-minded people could stand to learn from your manners and patience. 

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:28:53 AM   
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First you must divorce this idea that service = submission.  Providing a service to others/the world is the mark of a good person, it has nothing to do with being a dominant or a submissive.  A dominant still has the authority even when providing a service to their property.




Excellent response LA!!!! Exactly my thoughts!

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:31:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I don't think people are trying to be intentionally rude (although I admit there are definitely occasionally exceptions to that). I really think that it's been a long time for some people since they were new, and they might think some things are just obvious. I think LA (short for LuckyAlbatross) was sincere when she noted it takes time to digest all of this information. There's a lot of new stuff thrown at you when you are new (she does really know that). I thought  it was rather a discerning question for someone to ask. 

- Susan   

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:32:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CreatfreeAccount

Are you always this classy and appealing?  I am honored you are giving me your valuable time.

I try, and thank you.

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To answer your question pertaining to a dom who SERVICES their subs requests------- it is neither a good thing or a bad thing.  It is neither wrong nor right. 

Is it a reality that doms service their subs, seems like the answer is "Yes" and no for some.

I would agree with you on both counts.  Would you service a submissive of yours?

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Thanks for participating.

You are welcome.  Thank you for the questions. 

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:32:35 AM   
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If he "grants" your request to do you the way you desire is he yeilding or complying to your request and is that the same as submitting to your request, in your opinion.  If yes, than there are times Doms comply, appease or submit to requests of subs.


If he grants my requests he is either rewarding me or being a responsible Dom by taking care of a need. I dare say, if he thought for one second he was submitting (which he wouldn’t) the answer would be “motion denied”.

I would think a Dom who feels they are submitting to their sub’s requests would be one very unhappy Dom. As a matter of fact, I believe there is one person who posts regularly, who now swears off subs because of this. I asked Sir about it…his response…”He wasn’t the Dom”

Be well,

Edited to add: your welcome

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:33:12 AM   
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A dominant still has the authority even when providing a service to their property.




Excellent response LA!!!! Exactly my thoughts!


So in your world, you agree that sometimes a Dom does service their subs.  Thank you for your valuable input,  shared thoughts and time.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:33:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		See? I think sometimes people just mis-understand eachother, and it all usually works out in the end.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:41:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		This seems to have gone off in so many directions, so I'm going to try my best to make my points clear.  Hopefully they have something to do with at least one of the questions posed.

Does Loraith 'submit' to my requests on occasion?  Yes.  Why?  Because He knows, on occasion, it's going to make me happy...and a happy slave makes for better service to Him.  In the end, it's for His benefit as much as it is mine.  He agreed to help maintain a happy, healthy slave...granting a request is one simple way of doing that.  Now, if the request is more than He is willing to give, then He can (and does) deny it.  So far He hasn't been unreasonable about granting or denying requests I've made.




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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:41:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
See? I think sometimes people just mis-understand eachother, and it all usually works out in the end.

- Susan

Susan the thing I think you're forgetting is that newness, lack of understanding, miscommunication and even frustration does not excuse inappropriate behavior.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:42:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you.  In your view, when the dom services the desires of a sub, that dom is not actually 'complying or submitting' to the sub's desire but is rather "granting". 

Thanks again for sharing with me.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:46:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		If the Dom agrees to a request, he/she is "Granting" the request, not submiting to the request.

You Grant from a position of power (Domination), and submit from a position of weakness (submission).



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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:48:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
See? I think sometimes people just mis-understand eachother, and it all usually works out in the end.

- Susan

Susan the thing I think you're forgetting is that newness, lack of understanding, miscommunication and even frustration does not excuse inappropriate behavior.


I've been polite and you know it.  Maybe your not big enough to see it because  you lack the power of conversation but not the power of speech.


Your the one resorting to sarcastic and rude comments first. 

You have no patience is what your problem is.  So you take a sarcastic stab at me.  I know a rotten egg when I see it.  Quit showing everyone else what the perfection of rotteness is, will you.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:48:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		CreatAFreeAccount: Let's just start over - can we all just not argue, and move on? I know it's difficult, but I really don't think LA was being rude - but you might have to know her better to know that, although I don't think she was blatantly argumentative - at all. And you're getting a lot of help with this question here, too, from many different people. I mean, look at all the places in the convo where she tried to answer your question. She was trying to sincerely help. I also know ownedgirlie from these boards, and she is generally pretty nice to people. Maybe she is sincerely not understanding your question.

LA: Well that's true, you're right (and theoretically, I agree with you) - but sometimes, I think it can pay to ignore some stuff and just move on with the convo for the sake of not getting bogged down in all of the tit fot tat on a message board, and my personality usually has me just looking for way to put out the potential fire and get on with things already (my philosophy, depending on my mood, of course: Let peoples' own Dominants deal with that stuff - they have to live with them on a daily basis, hehe). Guess I just contra-dicted myself by trying to get involved here. I see it as a situational judgment call. But anyway...

- Susan

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:51:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		You certainly are a Lady.  And I thank you for your thoughts once again.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:53:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CreatfreeAccount

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
See? I think sometimes people just mis-understand eachother, and it all usually works out in the end.

- Susan

Susan the thing I think you're forgetting is that newness, lack of understanding, miscommunication and even frustration does not excuse inappropriate behavior.


I've been polite and you know it.  Maybe your not big enough to see it because  you lack the power of conversation but not the power of speech.


Your the one resorting to sarcastic and rude comments first. 

You have no patience is what your problem is.  So you take a sarcastic stab at me.  I know a rotten egg when I see it.  Quit showing everyone else what the perfection of rotteness is, will you.


I forgot to thank you.

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:56:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		CreatAFreeAcccount: Well thanks. Start with assuming everyone is trying to sincerely help. If you get absolutely blatant evidence to the contrary, I think it's okay to say something about it, but most of the time, I see people as really just being themselves, and trying to help. Truly.

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 2/27/2007 10:57:49 AM >

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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 10:57:12 AM   
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In your view, when the dom services the desires of a sub, that dom is not actually 'complying or submitting' to the sub's desire but is rather "granting". 


That’s the thing; I don’t believe he is “servicing” me.

If I am a boss at work and I let my crew have a few extra minutes for break because they worked really hard and deserve it….I am not letting them be boss; I am rewarding.

If I let them take a break at all, I am fulfilling a need. Not to mention it is the law..lol

Whether it’s something I want or not; it’s all about what pleases him.

You’re very welcome…again. :P

Be well,


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RE: Dominants submit to requests? - 2/27/2007 11:00:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		You don't need to worry if I think everyone is trying to be helpful.  Let's not blow this out of proportion and turn this in another direction, shall we?  I can't count the number of times I wrote back a "thank you" to the contributors.  It's marvelous.

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