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Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/26/2005 8:11:23 PM

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The absence of the will to live is caused with decreasing production of endorphins - the substance, which is known as the hormone of happiness. If a depressed individual receives a physical punishment, whipping that is, it will stir up endorphin receptors, activate the "production of happiness" and eventually remove depressive feelings.

http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/360/15176_whipping.html

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/26/2005 8:37:57 PM

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chris,

I don't this will fly with the AMA, but it makes as much sense as any cure they offer. I think this is great! I'm considering going by Doctor Merc.

All the possibilities are mind boggling. Instead of Taggard's training house, I could run a modern day health clinic like Kellogg did in the movie "The Road to Wellville". Or people could be sent to me with a prescription. I'd even make house calls! I wouldn't be one of those impersonal Doctors who's service tells you to; "Take two floggings and call me in the morning."

I wonder if different types of whips cure different illnesses. You know, if you have adult A.D.D. - Canning works. I'm willing to put in the time to do the research. Of course I may need more subjects then beth, and a large government grant.

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/26/2005 9:32:06 PM

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I don't think you will lack for volunteers in the study, but getting the large government grant might be tough.... unless we can connect it to the military.

I know the Army likes to whip its troops into shape, but I don't think this is quite what they had envisioned. On the otherhand, it -could- cut down on medical expenses and controlling the cost of health care is a big priority.

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/27/2005 10:50:49 AM

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Years ago I read an article somewhere (like a fool I didnt save it)....in which
there was a story of a severely crippled person with horrible chronic pain.

This person was constantly on medication and nothing seemed to help him at all.

The article stated that this person began self-punishment (masochistic flagellation?) and actually
was able to relieve a lot of his pain by blocking it with the drugs that the brain produces.

I wish I still had the article...sorry folks.

It truly is amazing what the human mind can do.

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/27/2005 5:59:08 PM

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i don't know about depression but a few weeks ago i helped reroof a house after working a desk for the last 20 years. by friday night i was stiff and sore to say the least. course being friday night the dungeon was open and i got lucky and was flogged very nicely. afterwards i had no stiffness or muscle pains...

i could use a good flogging tonight. though i am not in pain.

great topic... by george, i think they've got it!

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/28/2005 12:41:37 PM

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It makes sense! I personally have only experienced a single tail once, and that was a long time ago. I got hurt in an industrial accident, and have been taking pain meds for years. I think I'd rather kiss some Dome's ass for a good "dose" of medication than the stigmatation I have as a pain patient. To me it's worth a try--what's the worst that can happen? I noticed the article said the whipping was more successful if done by the opposite sex.

i don't know about depression but a few weeks ago i helped reroof a house after working a desk for the last 20 years. by friday night i was stiff and sore to say the least. course being friday night the dungeon was open and i got lucky and was flogged very nicely. afterwards i had no stiffness or muscle pains...

i could use a good flogging tonight. though i am not in pain.

great topic... by george, i think they've got it!
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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/28/2005 12:52:45 PM

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The absence of the will to live is caused with decreasing production of endorphins - the substance, which is known as the hormone of happiness. If a depressed individual receives a physical punishment, whipping that is, it will stir up endorphin receptors, activate the "production of happiness" and eventually remove depressive feelings.

http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/360/15176_whipping.html

As a pain patient I can assure you that our Pain Management physicians don't want us to experience the "Hormone of Happiness"! And, the A.M.A. will deny the Russian study has any merit, because of obvious drug and office visit revenue losses if this catches on.

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/31/2005 9:52:26 PM

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I am just back from a trip and as I was on My way to the airport, yesterday, I was listening to talk radio (yes, I listen to it all the time!).
Rush Limbaugh was reading about and offering opportunity for discussion on this exact study and the endorphins that are released through spanking and the levels of pain it takes to release these endorphins.
A Professional Dominatrix from St Louis, Deborah, called in and spoke with Rush about this. She was quite frank about the situation, her experiences and her personal knowledge of this. Rush was very interested and very polite and respectful of the information being shared. He asked some excellent questions, and was quite receptive to what was being shared.
It was a hoot to listen to on a national talk radio show! Step by step!

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/31/2005 10:14:30 PM

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How amazing!

Rush has the transcript of that call on his website.

Quoting Rush: "Well I think they ought to legalize it because there's euphoria involved. "

Do you think we may have found a new recruit? <g>

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 3/31/2005 11:58:56 PM

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How amazing!

Rush has the transcript of that call on his website.

Quoting Rush: "Well I think they ought to legalize it because there's euphoria involved. "

Do you think we may have found a new recruit? <g>

*laffs* Yes, this is exactly what I listened to! Maybe W/we have found a new recruit! LOL
Because I do want to reiterate here that, although it might be a bit difficult to tell from the transcript, Rush Limbaugh really was very respectful and sincere when he was asking those questions!

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/1/2005 11:17:43 AM

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Quoting Rush: "Well I think they ought to legalize it because there's euphoria involved. "

That's hilarious! I wonder if Rush said that because he wants euphoria legalization extended to things like the painkillers he was getting illegally.

Otherwise, while I'm all for endorphins, the "science" here looks fishy to me. First, they say endorphins are "known as the hormone of happiness", and I've never heard that before; sounds like a term invented specifically to lend credibility to their claims.

Did anyone else notice this: "A group of drug addicts volunteered to test the new method of treatment". This doesn't sound like the right sample to test a treatment for depression. I think if they used folks who were clinically depressed, the headline might be different -- perhaps it would be "sub drop causes suicide rate to increase among depressed patients being treated with whippings".

I also wonder why we would see cases of depressed athletes like the one at this link , Barrett Robbins (who blew off a Super Bowl he should have played in), Mike Tyson and Terry Bradshaw who claims to have been depressed throughout his pro football career though wasn't diagnosed until later. Sure, Jimenez and Robbins could be extreme cases so no treatment could have saved their careers. But I would expect to have heard of other cases where athletes were fine while getting endorphins from their "work" and then getting depression after they retire. Perhaps they are there and I just haven't heard about them.

Anyway, it is interesting stuff, and if nothing else I hope it leads Rush to go out and get "treated".

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/2/2005 7:37:06 AM

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I've also heard that CP of any kind boosts the immune system. I like to think of it as a radiator flush for the body personally. :) You get all those hormones and adrenaline bursts running through your system, it's a physically exhausting activity, and by the time it's over I feel like a new person. I'm definitely in a healthy mood for the rest of the day - guaranteed. Especially if it's performed in the morning - I can just see a new line of "get you started" products from Folgers. :) "Best part of waking up... is 40 lashes...." Ahem. Works for me.

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/3/2005 8:20:53 AM

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i can see the sensation and outroar this would create if taken to an alternative medecine conferance. Can you say screaming newagers?

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/4/2005 8:51:52 PM

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Nella, you could not even imagine the satisfaction I'd get out of telling my pain management physician to @@### if this works. I'm hopeing to find someone who is willing to lovingly administer my medication! But we shouldn't joke about this too much, because if there is merit to it; the pharacutical companies will be trying to have their cronies in the government outlaw any form of floging! My Rx costs $700 bucks a month,and I be screwed if I didn't have good insurance. If you only knew the crap we have to put up with!

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i can see the sensation and outroar this would create if taken to an alternative medecine conferance. Can you say screaming newagers?

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/10/2005 12:54:03 PM

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Hmm.... I'm not sure that being whipped has ever released any endorphins into my bloodstream... I'm not into pain.. well, not that much pain!!!

But perhaps for people who find their depression takes them to real lows, like suicidal thoughts, or self-harm, a good whipping could either "snap them out of it", or provide a safer substitute to that self-destructive urge?

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/15/2005 9:48:43 AM

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As someone who has experienced depression and chronic pain, I can say that it does help. I crushed both of my legs in Aug. 2003, I have more titanium in my legs than anything else. I still have the pain, but when I'm doing a scene with Master, I cannot feel any of that pain. Only the joy and excitement of the pain that is being inflicted at the time. As a nurse, there are many endorphines that are released during spanking, and they are good one!

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/15/2005 11:44:18 AM

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I am late as always, but...

This article has been mentioned many places, including here in Norway. To be honest, it looks like a joke to me. Pravda is a serious newspaper (regardless of what we might think about Russia or old Soviet times), but in my opinion this article can't be serious.

I could add quotes from the article here, but... in any case, to me it sounds pretty much like fantasies that people post on the internet all the time.

To me the article looks like an April joke that came out a few days too early.

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/15/2005 8:05:26 PM

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Pravda in Soviet times was fairly dour. But the new Pravda is big on sensationalizing ordinary stories. I've read stories at Pravda several times over the past five years. Pravda is a tabloid newspaper these days.

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/16/2005 1:01:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
All the possibilities are mind boggling. Instead of Taggard's training house, I could run a modern day health clinic like Kellogg did in the movie "The Road to Wellville". Or people could be sent to me with a prescription. I'd even make house calls! I wouldn't be one of those impersonal Doctors who's service tells you to; "Take two floggings and call me in the morning."

I wonder if different types of whips cure different illnesses. You know, if you have adult A.D.D. - Canning works. I'm willing to put in the time to do the research. Of course I may need more subjects then beth, and a large government grant.

*laughs* I've actually talked with several subs who suffer from fibromyalgia (I think I got that spelled right) and they all said that a good spanking/flogging/pain play would "cure" them for a few days. And that pain play would also help arthritis symptoms.

The combatting depression issue might explain some of my need for it .. some anyway. :)

And if caning works for Adult ADD.. I've never been caned, but hell.. sign me UP!! Lets see. I mean its worth the chance right? *evil grin*

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RE: Whipping therapy cures depression - 4/18/2005 6:52:43 AM

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BDSM play indeed can cure many ailments, and I think depression is the biggest one. For me, as a single mom who raised 4 boys alone, and had to take charge of every aspect of my and their lives..... being submissive in a BDSM setting relieves me of all responsiblity. for that short period of time I can let go of eveything and just FEEL. Feel without the worry of who, what, why, when and where. And that is a freedom unlike any other, for it is a mental, emotional freedom. A refuge from all thought but to feel the sensations created in your mind through the administrations to the body.

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