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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 6:54:35 AM   
Mercnbeth


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It would be nice to hear from more male Dominants re: Their attitude on this, at the beginning of a relationship.


susan,
beth pointed me to this thread to respond to your solicitation of input from a Dominant. Then she asked me if she ever paid for anything during the early days of our relationship. I honestly couldn't remember. I'm sure I didn't allow her to pay for much, maybe a train ticket or two at the beginning, but that's just me. It doesn't have relevance to D/s. Most of the time, I buy the first round of drinks in a vanilla setting.

In my case, the ultimate relationship that I wanted to have made me 100% responsible for the slave, including financially. It would have been inconsistent, and even hypocritical to represent that goal to people I contacted but require we split the dinner check. But that was me and us.

My general comment is that it doesn't matter what other Dominants do or don't do. It's your decision to agree and  can live with what the Dominant you are seeing does. Everyone is different and has a different attitude toward expenses incurred during the "getting to know you period". Personal finances come into play as well as other factors. Appreciate the honest disclosure of what to expect and make a decision based upon it.

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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 7:37:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

It would be nice to hear from more male Dominants re: Their attitude on this, at the beginning of a relationship.


susan,
beth pointed me to this thread to respond to your solicitation of input from a Dominant.


Hello Merc,
You're just so cool toanswer susan's cry for input, and beths so cool for hearing a cry in the night and helping susan too.
You guys sure have some tremendous heart.
Way to go Merc & beth you've once again shown me how caring about others you two are.!
suzanne

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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 7:42:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am inquiring about this strictly out of personal curiosity.  I'd like to know, if you are a male Dominant (or a Domme) I am most interested in your answer - but submissives and slaves, or Switches, please feel free to answer as well. In your relationship, who pays for (or do you split the cost, or does the submissive pay) for things like:

0) Plane tickets and hotel rooms for travel to visit the other person. 

1) Phone bills if it is a LTR and you phone eachother a lot (every other day, every day or so)

2) Sexy clothing - Lingerie, corsets, hosiery, shoes -  or whatever men would wear (if a submissive ) in a bdsm scene - IF it is requested by the Dominant specifically (not just what you want or buy for yourself, that may be sexy that you buy because you like it)

3) BDSM Toys (floggers, vibrators, electrical toys, small whips, etc.)

4) BDSM books and-or magazine, or instructive materials

5) BDSM equipment that might be more expensive than average (medical tables, suspension equipment, cages, etc.)

6) Tickets to play parties or bdsm events (conventions)

7) Anything else that is bdsm related, that two share in a D/s relationship (because it is a D/s relatonship, specifically) that you can think of.

Thanks for any responses, they are appreciated.

- Susan 


He tells me what to order and it is all His money.

Sincerely,
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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 7:49:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Appreciate the honest disclosure of what to expect and make a decision based upon it.


This is pretty much what it comes down to.
Susan, I hope you have a fun, relaxing and informative trip :-).


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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 8:05:09 AM   
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We each pay our own expenses in terms of travel to each other and phone bills. I have paid to upgrade my clothes to his desired tastes but this was not drastic and he seems to enjoy buying specific things for me.

All toys and I imagine anything else in the M/s/BDSM area is his responsibility and we are going on a cruise in another month that I offered to pay my way but he refused.

We are both very fortunate that are income and living desires make these issues not a problem. We are currently talking about what we will do when it is time for me to move to him which will then be more complicated.


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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 8:16:37 AM   
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Hey there Susan...I saw your request for more dominant input so I came back here to your original post.  What I have stated in answer to your questions is how I have done it in the past and note that it always worked out well and seemed fair to both me and the submissives I was involved with at the time.  As a disclaimer though, this is what worked for us...you have to do what you and your potential are comfortable with and these areas seem to me to be a very good time for honest communication so that there is no resentment, however minor, shoved underneath the surface.

quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am inquiring about this strictly out of personal curiosity.  I'd like to know, if you are a male Dominant (or a Domme) I am most interested in your answer - but submissives and slaves, or Switches, please feel free to answer as well. In your relationship, who pays for (or do you split the cost, or does the submissive pay) for things like:

0) Plane tickets and hotel rooms for travel to visit the other person. 


Whoever was coming to see who paid for the plane ticket.  When I went to see them, I paid...when they came to see me, they paid.  The exception was the one submissive that came here to live with me for awhile.  At that time, I took on her travel expenses when she went home to see her family one time.

1) Phone bills if it is a LTR and you phone eachother a lot (every other day, every day or so)  I tend to call more than the other party.  When the submissive calls me, she has paid for her own calls.  I've never put a set schedule of expected calls out there or anything like that so I knew that I was not asking them to do something that they could not afford.

2) Sexy clothing - Lingerie, corsets, hosiery, shoes -  or whatever men would wear (if a submissive ) in a bdsm scene - IF it is requested by the Dominant specifically (not just what you want or buy for yourself, that may be sexy that you buy because you like it)

If I see something or have a visual of my head of something I would like to see a submissive in and it is not part of her wardrobe, I would buy the specific outfit for her.  If, in the midst of heated play, I was to tear something of hers that had not been worn for the specific purpose of being ripped or shredded, I would offer to replace it.  But, if I tell her that I like a specific type of lingerie best and she chooses to go out and buy some of it, then that is a choice she has made.

3) BDSM Toys (floggers, vibrators, electrical toys, small whips, etc.)

If there've been toys I wanted to use on someone, I bought them.  When a submissive has told me that she thought she might like to try a certain toy, I have gone out and bought it.  I've also known submissives who had quite an extensive collection of their own for their own reasons...see the thread about owning toys...and we've enjoyed all of them.  This is not something that has come up a lot for me, in all honesty.

4) BDSM books and-or magazine, or instructive materials

If I had suggested that she might want to read a certain book or watch certain instructive materials, I made the offer to buy it for her or just went ahead and bought it for her.  If she saw something and wanted it, she bought it as many times, they were not always with me when they ran across something that interested them.

5) BDSM equipment that might be more expensive than average (medical tables, suspension equipment, cages, etc.)

It would depend on who wanted it and who was going to keep it.  As an example...the submissive I was involved with who was married decided she wanted a Sybian (spelling?) with attached cuffs.  This is rather an expensive BDSM toy and I knew we were not going to be staying together.  She bought it.  If I was into keeping a submissive caged, I would buy the cage.

6) Tickets to play parties or bdsm events (conventions)

This was always my expense and I felt it should be.

7) Anything else that is bdsm related, that two share in a D/s relationship (because it is a D/s relatonship, specifically) that you can think of.

It depends.  Most of the time, for shared things, I either paid for it or paid for the majority of it.  A bit of cynicism has crept in though and at this point, it would depend on what it was and where it fit into our relationship and what level the relationship was on.

Thanks for any responses, they are appreciated.

- Susan 

You are welcome...



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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 8:41:57 AM   
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Everyone: Thanks for the input. Mercnbeth, your reply was especially succinct and sensible, thanks. Everyone helped me and I appreciate the POVs a lot.

Yes, I plan to have a good time, and I do like this person.

I think I have a possible issue w/money. I've been extremely comfortable (according to my standards for that) and I have also been poor, but regardless of my state of personal finance, I have always, always hated discussing money. HATE discussing it. Hate it, Really. But - I will do it. Especially if nobody else brings it up first.

But if it becomes a potential or actual "problem" my past pattern is just to not fight about it, and avoid the issue entirely - whatever that results in (my husband and I fought about it a few times, and I then just decided discussing it at all wasn't worth the fighting, and gave up. Which isn't to say I was happy about the way it was being handled, mind you).

But in a Dom-sub relationship, I also really do want the other person to "act Dom", which means I better make sure we have similar "philosophies" as far as how we view money and it's use, to begin with (at least in a basic sense). And at least in relation to how expenses I mentioned are going to be handled.  Which doesn't mean I think he should pay for everything (at all) - just that there needs to be some discussion and discovery.

I see people assume thing all the time, and then  it comes down to they never talked about it at all. Well, whose fault is it then, if nobody ever discussed it to begin with? Just my POV.  

I don't want to fight about it, in the future, should it ever become an "issue". I want to make sure I am "on the same page" w/the person I get involved with - and do want them to be the Dominant as far as finances, but I just don't want to fight a lot (or at all) about money. I just hate when it becomes an issue - but maybe there are times when it should be an issue, I am not sure.

Anyway... 

I have no doubt I am dealing w/ a reasonable person who will be willing to discuss these things. Thanks for the ear, people.

- Susan  

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 3/7/2007 9:09:35 AM >


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RE: Who pays or do you split the cost for what? - 3/7/2007 9:33:29 AM   
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my Master pays technically pays for everything. ususally directly, and occasionally indirectly through money/profit he has made through me.

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RE: Who pays or do you split the cost for what? - 3/7/2007 1:23:13 PM   
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My Lord pays for everything, as he is the breadwinner and I do not work outside our home.  When I was relocating to be with him after we married, we split the costs because I was working at the time. When I worked part time, he had control over all of my money except the allowance I recieved out of each check to do what I wanted with.

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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 3:16:31 PM   
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There is no split... since all money's are mine.  It's just a question of which pocket I will use. 

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RE: Who pays -Do you split the cost, and for what? - 3/7/2007 3:30:51 PM   
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0) Plane tickets and hotel rooms for travel to visit the other person. If I am going to them I pay. Unless he wants too

1) Phone bills if it is a LTR and you phone eachother a lot (every other day, every day or so) I'd pay mine- he can pay his

2) Sexy clothing - Lingerie, corsets, hosiery, shoes -  or whatever men would wear (if a submissive ) in a bdsm scene - IF it is requested by the Dominant specifically (not just what you want or buy for yourself, that may be sexy that you buy because you like it)  Buy myself unless he bought me some thing on his own

3) BDSM Toys (floggers, vibrators, electrical toys, small whips, etc.) I like buying having my own toys. I would however buy Him some toys  as gifts

4) BDSM books and-or magazine, or instructive materials - If I am asked to get some thing particular I will buy- if there is some thing I wish to know myself I will buy

5) BDSM equipment that might be more expensive than average (medical tables, suspension equipment, cages, etc.) BDSM equipment to me is usually things one has if they have a room for it or made themselves a dungeon in ther home-  not easily moved around. Since I dont have room I wouldnt buy it

6) Tickets to play parties or bdsm events (conventions) If we are attending together He can buy
 
Now living together is different for me- then I'd think all evenly shared pricewise

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