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Missokyst -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/17/2007 10:16:03 AM)
Oh heck yes! Some guy I haven't met yet who I am considering as a dominant, orders me not to wear undies at our first meeting? LOL.. Those are exactly the guys that I end up topping in the end. What is the saying.. he wrote a check that he just can't cash, or something like that. If his mind is that juevenille it is very unlikely we would make a good match. Kyst quote: ORIGINAL: goodpet I'm with the ones saying he had no right to demand that of you. But i would not have bother meeting someone who told me that.

Missokyst -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/17/2007 10:28:05 AM)
[sm=biggrin.gif]LMAO Kyst quote: ORIGINAL: Mustardseed Short of an actual emergency ("You! Without the bra! Call the police!"),

bliss1 -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/17/2007 10:39:44 AM)
Any man who thinks he is a Dom and gives orders before knowing a sub isn't real in my book. There has to understanding, communication, and respect before the gift of submission is given. Sounds to me like he wants a mindless slave. There is a difference - I for sure will not follow an order just because some jerk thinks he is a Dom/Master. Prove it first or get out of my way.

myobedience -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/17/2007 5:42:35 PM)
I have come to the belief that a man who wants you braless/pantiless at every time you are out in public, has a fetish in this area, and doesnt respect, in general, a lady. Sir told me I am NOT submissive to the world, only him. I should and must have, as a woman, a public persona that that does not have "slut whore ho" written all over me. I was once required to do this (by another) and altho I obeyed, I felt trashy and wondered what he would do if he saw a trashy woman such as me in public? Turn his face and say, damn what a slut? This fetish has come to disgust me becasue it is so common with men (doms) who dont seem to want a lady in public. And I believe it is done so that the dom will find other men very jealous of this woman who follows to his side. But do they realize it makes THEM look like trash too? I am submissive to him in public and he is proud of me in public dressed as a lady.

saphiradraca -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/17/2007 5:54:36 PM)
I'm a 40DD, so I know what it's like to go braless, and I rarely do it. So, I'd have worn a bra. Frankly, there were other ways for him to find out how obedient you could be.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/18/2007 12:49:56 AM)
Well it's always too bad to see how few people have learned that you can be both a total lady and a total whore at exactly the same time and be completely unable to tell the difference between the two :)

myobedience -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/18/2007 6:26:29 AM)
There IS a time and place to be both lady and tramp. [;)] It is always too bad that selective passive aggressive judgment is given when nothing is known about what one learned and had to unlearn, only to learn from another Dominant. My response just posted on the thread ~ Fear of Losing Sense of One's Self ~ dove tails nicely with what I wrote on this thread.

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/18/2007 7:17:31 AM)
quote: Well it's always too bad to see how few people have learned that you can be both a total lady and a total whore at exactly the same time and be completely unable to tell the difference between the two :) *Very well said...Just as many say, "my vanilla side"...."my submissive side"..* *This girl is whole....I'm a lady, I'm a whore, I'm a submissive with all kinds of interests.*

Firebirdseeking -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/24/2007 9:04:05 PM)
You are a submissive, not a doormat. You have the right to decide at any time what you are or are not comfortable with.

WiseCracknSadist -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 2:02:21 PM)
Well I'm sure this post will make me some more "friends" but hey I is who I is. So here's what I see a lot. Subs (only women so far) who want a Dominant man then get all ticked off when a Dom gives them something to do. Now what I do understand and is always evident in these threads is that there are varying degrees of Dominance and submission. So when two people who are not the yin and yang of one another don't hit it off you get a thread where one or the other vents their emotions. Then all the lil sub women get together clucking like hens tearing apart whatever dude has transgressed against one of their own. Is it his fault if you (the sub) did not take the time to find out what he was about and if you were going to be into him? No, I don't think so. He was just being himself. Even if he is a newbie and blindly barking orders to see where his boundries are. You should take the time to get to know him. I mean after the " Hi how do you do's" if there's even an inkling that you are compatable limits should be discussed. Limits to me aren't no's as much as they are just not yets. But for them to be that way you have respect the boundries at first then earn their trust and your right to stretch those boundries. Going braless doesn't seem like a big deal but I don't have boobs so I really can't say. That being said you could have met him half way and not worn the panties. To me you were making a statement and a fool out of him. Either that or a rash decision. To me it doesn't seem either of you should have been in that situation and I can only hope you take your time and make better decisions in the future.

OsideGirl -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 3:11:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist So here's what I see a lot. Subs (only women so far) who want a Dominant man then get all ticked off when a Dom gives them something to do. A first meeting is a time when I'm trying to decide if I like him enough to consent to becoming involved with him. In my opinion, part of that decision process has a lot to do with their ability to function and know when things are appropriate. At that point, making demands is inappropriate. Personally, I refused to meet anyone that wanted to decide how I should dress on our first meeting.

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 3:45:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist Going braless doesn't seem like a big deal but I don't have boobs so I really can't say. That being said you could have met him half way and not worn the panties. To me you were making a statement and a fool out of him. Either that or a rash decision. *Not even going to revisit the whole panty/bra thing.... But I could not let this point go....* *There is no half-way in obedience....It's just like being pregnant.."you either is or you ain't"* *Oh please give me a half-way Master, and I will be a half-way slave..and together will that makes us whole? nope!* And another note.... an offensive request to one sub is a normal day for another. ... I don't wear panties at all ...so for me to take them off, I'd have to put them on ...[;)] ~whew~so, much panty energy 'round here. *Moral of the story....Know who you're dealing with![:D]*

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 3:48:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Personally, I refused to meet anyone that wanted to decide how I should dress on our first meeting. *(big smile)...Have you not ever worn the typical submissive first date uniform?* *Black skirt, white blouse, no panties, thigh-highs and black pumps...* *.....tsk tsk tsk...(laughing)*

KnightofMists -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 3:58:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: patina Now as stated before does a Dom have the right to tell you to not wear a bra on a first meeting then say its to see if you can follow orders. Only if you give them the right!

WiseCracknSadist -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 5:53:03 PM)
Meeting half way could have been seen as a gesture of good faith. I mean we are talking about first meetings and if it was someone you wanted to intimate with, which I have to assume since you met him in real life and giving him something is better than giving him nothing , so it could have shown you are willing to do as you are told as long as you are comfortable with it. I read a lot where women say I am a sub not a slave I am not a door mat. I take this to mean a slave gives up all rights and a sub gives up most but retains the veto right. So meeting halfway could have led to constructive conversations and led to mutual agreements. I think the lesson here is to ask better questions and be as up front as you can be before taking on the responsibilty of meeting. Everything in this lifestyle seems to be an interview process and you bombed this one by not being prepared. Chock it up to A.F.L.L Another Fucking Life Lesson and move forward.

OsideGirl -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 6:24:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: curiouslyseeking quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Personally, I refused to meet anyone that wanted to decide how I should dress on our first meeting. *(big smile)...Have you not ever worn the typical submissive first date uniform?* *Black skirt, white blouse, no panties, thigh-highs and black pumps...* *.....tsk tsk tsk...(laughing)* [:)] Nope, not on the first meeting. (Which in my thoughts was not a date) I wanted to be with someone that wanted me for who I was, not for what I was. How I was dressed was part of who I am. Now, that doesn't mean that once I got to know someone I wouldn't dress to please him. It simply means that for the first meeting I felt it was important for them to know who I was.

curiouslyseeking -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 7:18:00 PM)
[;)][ quote: *(big smile)...Have you not ever worn the typical submissive first date uniform?* *Black skirt, white blouse, no panties, thigh-highs and black pumps...* *.....tsk tsk tsk...(laughing)* quote: [:)] Nope, not on the first meeting. (Which in my thoughts was not a date) I wanted to be with someone that wanted me for who I was, not for what I was. How I was dressed was part of who I am. Now, that doesn't mean that once I got to know someone I wouldn't dress to please him. It simply means that for the first meeting I felt it was important for them to know who I was. *I applaud you by sticking to what you feel is best on your journey..* The submissive uniform was just an inside joke, where when I was meeting different Dominants, I had 3 ask for the same thing in one week...So, I was reflecting and having my own joke/post. party..[:D] nothing against your beliefs. *I truly wish you much success in what you seek out of life. Make it happen![;)]*

gringuita -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 7:26:00 PM)
I go without a bra all the time and it bugs Daddy! lol... but, that's another story entirely. I agree with the fact that comunication is important, so, not knowing how clear both parties were with the bra/no bra need makes it difficult to give an opinion. You weren't his at the time, so there was no need for you to obey. But... that's my opinion, obedience is a gift you give someone that's worthy of it, and part of that worthiness is a sensitivity to your needs. Tehe... I might be pushing the envelope with the worthy thing... but that's how I feel about it.

LotusSong -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 8:18:59 PM)
I can guarantee....she WAS braless.. under that bra!

FelinePersuasion -> RE: Doms requiring us to be braless (3/25/2007 10:18:14 PM)
Over weight women with breasts that hang down get mighty sweaty under the breasts, which is unatractive to have under boob sweat problems, and it causes nasty unsightly heat rashes to have your large breasts hanging skin to skin. It's also very tacky to keep having to dry your under boob area every 5 to 10 mins. I am a large breasted woman, Even with a bra they sweat like mad underneath the band, but it's 10 times worse hanging skin to skin. quote: ORIGINAL: WiseCracknSadist Going braless doesn't seem like a big deal but I don't have boobs so I really can't say.

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